The BATSUIT Thread

[Zorro]

I love the suit after seeing it in the trailer but it makes sense that Batman will upgrade suits in sequels. 2 suits in this film would be cool but am not expecting it unless it's at the end as a tease.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

he describes catwoman's suit as black leather, but didn't see any goggles (but didn't rule it out). also says the new cowl has a slight squint, but not a scowl like affleck's cowl.

I hope he is legit. All signs point to yes.

 

[C Prometheus]

I hope he is legit. All signs point to yes.

I've already pointed out that there are in fact holes in the argument. Not a guarantee, of course, but it's worth keeping in mind.

I'm not opposed to the idea of a second suit. It just has to be better than this beauty.

I can't handle another BB>TDK situation.

Yeeeep. The bar was raised quite high with this new Batsuit and this leak about a second suit that just does away with all of the interesting ideas that make it feel special and work so well in the trailer in the name of "being more comic accurate" feels incredibly lame to me.

 

[hafizbat]

What changes would you all want for a second suit?

The base is great. I'd like a more refined cowl, more symmetry and seamlessness throughout, and totally revamped arms. The arms are the only part I actively dislike. Too busy and ugly.

The collar and symbol should stay as they're fresh and the most distinctive details of this Batman.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

I've already pointed out that there are in fact holes in the argument. Not a guarantee, of course, but it's worth keeping in mind.



Yeeeep. The bar was raised quite high with this new Batsuit and this leak about a second suit that just does away with all of the interesting ideas that make it feel special and work so well in the trailer in the name of "being more comic accurate" feels incredibly lame to me.

I missed it... care to share again, mate?

 

[FatRobin]

Yeeeep. The bar was raised quite high with this new Batsuit and this leak about a second suit that just does away with all of the interesting ideas that make it feel special and work so well in the trailer in the name of "being more comic accurate" feels incredibly lame to me.

Yeah. Assuming that the second suit description is correct, I just don't get why Reeves would get rid of all the features that make the first suit unique. It doesn't make sense to me.

 

[C Prometheus]

I missed it... care to share again, mate?

Okay, so as I brought up to Boom earlier in the thread, the timeline doesn't seem to line up for a second suit that shows up and is used for the majority of the film.

On the one hand, it doesn't seem likely that explosion scene takes place late into the film, resulting in the new suit appearing in the third act of the film (like in Batman Forever and B&R). Coincidentally, the leak itself points to the explosion happening "very early" into the movie too.

The problem with that, however, goes back to the various scenes we have in the trailer of Batman interacting with the cops in different ways. I struggle to believe that Bruce's relationship with the GCPD goes from being let in on a high profile crime scene to being open fired at by staircases full of cops all within the span of 15 to 45 minutes.

Moreover, there's that scene of Batman lashing out in a room full of cops and being thrust against the wall by Gordon. People have noticed that it seems like Batman is waking up and getting off of a gurney at the start of that bit in the trailer, indicating that the cops likely collected Batman from the explosion in the cathedral and he wakes up in that scene disoriented and panicked before Gordon pins him against the wall to calm him down.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Okay, so as I brought up to Boom earlier in the thread, the timeline doesn't seem to line up for a second suit that shows up and is used for the majority of the film.

On the one hand, it doesn't seem likely that explosion scene takes place late into the film, resulting in the new suit appearing in the third act of the film (like in Batman Forever and B&R). Coincidentally, the leak itself points to the explosion happening "very early" into the movie too.

The problem with that, however, goes back to the various scenes we have in the trailer of Batman interacting with the cops in different ways. I struggle to believe that Bruce's relationship with the GCPD goes from being let in on a high profile crime scene to being open fired at by staircases full of cops all within the span of 15 to 45 minutes.

Moreover, there's that scene of Batman lashing out in a room full of cops and being thrust against the wall by Gordon. People have noticed that it seems like Batman is waking up and getting off of a gurney at the start of that bit in the trailer, indicating that the cops likely collected Batman from the explosion in the cathedral and he wakes up in that scene disoriented and panicked before Gordon pins him against the wall to calm him down.

Great points...

I guess time shall tell however I do hope with all my heart that there is a second suit.

 

[Fincher]

What changes would you all want for a second suit?

The base is great. I'd like a more refined cowl, more symmetry and seamlessness throughout, and totally revamped arms. The arms are the only part I actively dislike. Too busy and ugly.

The collar and symbol should stay as they're fresh and the most distinctive details of this Batman.

Most of it. Make the body black rather than gray except for the symbol, which can be one piece of seamless metal with (small) ears. Have the chest armor covered. Reduce the shoulder guards and lose the wrist gauntlets, replaced by a variation on the vambraces, with spikes coming forward like a sai to keep with the samurai vibe. Lose the cargo pants; use the same material as the torso but with pockets on the legs. I don't even know how to describe fixing the cowl, just get a better one. The collar can stay.

 

[FatRobin]

What changes would you all want for a second suit?

The base is great. I'd like a more refined cowl, more symmetry and seamlessness throughout, and totally revamped arms. The arms are the only part I actively dislike. Too busy and ugly.

The collar and symbol should stay as they're fresh and the most distinctive details of this Batman.

The most necessary change I can think of is adding brown or yellow to the belt. I'd also like the cowl to be a bit more refined. It already looks great at the front imo, but the sides are a little weird:

And perhaps more symmetry in the material throughout.

 

[thangaran]

Both the Bruce and Batman looks remind me a little of the "Field Test" segment of the Gotham Knight animated film. From the front, the collar also reminds me of The Shadow. I kinda wish it weren't rigid armor, but bendy or fabric instead.

Does he hit and stab people with his sharp nose there?

 

[Lencho01]

EDIT: Wrong thread.

 

[Verbal21]

The cowl being 2-piece is still taking some getting used to for me. It gives me Noir vibes while the rest of the armor screams Arkham Asylum. I’ll eventually get used to it, it’s just what sticks out to me right now.

 

[thangaran]

The cowl looks a bit crap. I do like the suit overall but the two crap things are the cowl, he looks like a dome-shaped gladiator and the arrow gauntlets. Those aspects make it a bit crap

batman begins and batman returns suits are still my Favorite

 

[All-Father]

The suit is so great. If there's really an "upgrade", its has to be something incredible.

 

[The Riddler]

Okay, so as I brought up to Boom earlier in the thread, the timeline doesn't seem to line up for a second suit that shows up and is used for the majority of the film.

On the one hand, it doesn't seem likely that explosion scene takes place late into the film, resulting in the new suit appearing in the third act of the film (like in Batman Forever and B&R). Coincidentally, the leak itself points to the explosion happening "very early" into the movie too.

The problem with that, however, goes back to the various scenes we have in the trailer of Batman interacting with the cops in different ways. I struggle to believe that Bruce's relationship with the GCPD goes from being let in on a high profile crime scene to being open fired at by staircases full of cops all within the span of 15 to 45 minutes.

Moreover, there's that scene of Batman lashing out in a room full of cops and being thrust against the wall by Gordon. People have noticed that it seems like Batman is waking up and getting off of a gurney at the start of that bit in the trailer, indicating that the cops likely collected Batman from the explosion in the cathedral and he wakes up in that scene disoriented and panicked before Gordon pins him against the wall to calm him down.

don't see any of these as issues. the explosion likely takes place in the first hour of the film. if you watch the scene in the trailer where batman is following gordon into the crime scene, they all look at him with some unease/distrust. it's likely gordon is batman's only link to police cooperation, and something happens where it turns quickly. you can even see in the scuffle at the police station that gordon seems to be playing peacemaker between batman and another cop(s).

if you freeze frame the trailer shot by shot in the GCPD scene, it's not clear at all that he is getting up from some gurney. he could be disoriented or just angry at one particular cop as he seems to be going after one guy in particular. regardless, the timeline is not at all an issue. it's rather easy to envision that within the first hour, batman's already uneasy alliance with the police starts to fray a bit.

 

[The Riddler]

What were the descriptions of the second suit? And is it used in any action scenes or is it just a quick glimpse at the end of the flick?

supposedly batman gets a new suit relatively early into the movie, and he uses it for probably at least half of the movie. there was a youtube video linked here a couple pages back that went over the leaked description, but it's described as a tactical padded fabric material, that's grey with black gloves/boots and a faded gold utility belt. the cowl is no longer a leatherish material and has a smaller mouth opening. did not rule out the possibility it has white eyes. as a reference, he says the material/color is reminiscent of the black SHIELD spider man suit from far from home.

 

[The Riddler]

What changes would you all want for a second suit?

The base is great. I'd like a more refined cowl, more symmetry and seamlessness throughout, and totally revamped arms. The arms are the only part I actively dislike. Too busy and ugly.

The collar and symbol should stay as they're fresh and the most distinctive details of this Batman.

the cowl needs the most work -- sharper, more angular nose rather than flat bridge, smaller mouth cut out, and better material. i'm not a big fan of the collar, either. it's fine, but i don't care for the look aesthetically. essentially, i want a greg capullo new 52 suit -- minimalist design, a helmet like cowl with white angular lenses, and sleek armored gauntlets.

 

[C Prometheus]

don't see any of these as issues. the explosion likely takes place in the first hour of the film. if you watch the scene in the trailer where batman is following gordon into the crime scene, they all look at him with some unease/distrust. it's likely gordon is batman's only link to police cooperation, and something happens where it turns quickly. you can even see in the scuffle at the police station that gordon seems to be playing peacemaker between batman and another cop(s).

if you freeze frame the trailer shot by shot in the GCPD scene, it's not clear at all that he is getting up from some gurney. he could be disoriented or just angry at one particular cop as he seems to be going after one guy in particular. regardless, the timeline is not at all an issue. it's rather easy to envision that within the first hour, batman's already uneasy alliance with the police starts to fray a bit.

Oh I'm well aware that Batman's relationship with the GCPD seems to be strenuous. But I'm still not sure that scene isn't Batman getting up from a gurney; his movement at the start of the shot seems too awkward to be something other than him getting up from something.

The shoot out though, I suspect is most likely set later in the film. Reeves heavily emphasized how deep the corruption in Gotham City goes as being part of the mystery of the film and while corrupt cops ain't anything new, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Commissioner Pete Savage deploys a significant shift in policy towards Batman as the film goes on due to fear to him getting too close to finding his skeletons in the closet.

So yeah, I'm still not at all convinced that this is all set within the first hour of the film before Batman gets a sudden and significant costume change that's apparently worlds away from the starting point design.

 

[Boom]

What changes would you all want for a second suit?

The base is great. I'd like a more refined cowl, more symmetry and seamlessness throughout, and totally revamped arms. The arms are the only part I actively dislike. Too busy and ugly.

The collar and symbol should stay as they're fresh and the most distinctive details of this Batman.

Spider-man's SHIELD suit from Far From Home isn't a bad starting point, in that it blends fabric and armor pretty seamlessly. I'd still give the fabric a rougher texture, though. Just for that extra grit. Kind of an obscure reference, but I'm thinking of that white kevlar vest that John David Washington wears in the first Tenet trailer when he's scaling the building. Otherwise, I've said on several occasions that one of the reasons I quite like the current suit is that it's very evocative of Solid Snake from Metal Gear Solid 1 (a tactical vest over a sneaking suit). I wouldn't mind seeing this same basic concept applied to the next suit - albeit more streamlined and a bit more uniform in appearance. Less clunky armor components.

I don't mind the all-black utility belt at all, so that can stay. I really like the collar, but I'm not married to it, so I can take that or leave it. As for the cowl? Personally, I like the current one as is. If I had to make changes to it at all, I guess refine the shape of it and make the nose more angular. Maybe make it tighter to Pattinson's head so it doesn't look as bulbous in certain shots. Just little subtle changes that push it a bit closer to that classic Batman look, but without losing this cowl's character.

Lastly, and I cannot stress this enough, I need Reeves to at least attempt the fully-enveloping cape. If I can just get a filmmaker to come out and explicitly say, "We really wanted it, we tried to do it, but it just didn't work," then I can be at peace. Otherwise, I have no way of knowing if anybody had actually tried to pull this off beyond just concept art, and that thought drives me crazy. It's THE classic Batman look - the fully cloaked silhouette. Until I've been told by filmmakers that it simply will not work for x number of reasons, I will never stop demanding this in a live-action film.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I know it’s probably not deliberate, but I still adore how the eye paint reminds me of Heath’s Joker. The best Batmen also could easily play The Joker.

Except for Adam West, he's way too nice to be a believable Joker.
I was thinking you've been missing from the Cinematic Civil War thread, glad to see you here. And nice name change.

Is it hyperbole to say this is one of the most well-acted moments of any Batman film ever?

Perhaps.
I need to see it in context to really determine the value of this statement.

 

[BrollySupersj]

supposedly batman gets a new suit relatively early into the movie, and he uses it for probably at least half of the movie. there was a youtube video linked here a couple pages back that went over the leaked description, but it's described as a tactical padded fabric material, that's grey with black gloves/boots and a faded gold utility belt. the cowl is no longer a leatherish material and has a smaller mouth opening. did not rule out the possibility it has white eyes. as a reference, he says the material/color is reminiscent of the black SHIELD spider man suit from far from home.

And this person also happened to leak the scene where the car and Riddler victim crash a funeral?

 

[Gothamsknight]

And this person also happened to leak the scene where the car and Riddler victim crash a funeral?

This is what I want to know, because if its him, then it could very well be true

 

[DarkKnight]

So It appears I can now finally give my final thoughts on the suit after watching the trailer like 10 times. As some of you may recall I loved the suit itself but hated the cowl even calling it a unskilled leather makers mistake or something of that nature.

Now that I've seen it in full movement and from various different angles I can say while it is still far from my favorite cowl, it is not as bad as I thought it would be. It looks way better in film and way better than the stunt motorcycle driver cowl (which I believe most of us figured that anyway).

But, What surprises me the most is the tone of the film. I absolutely love it! To me it feels like they took Batman 1989 and meshed it with the Nolan verse and I am 100% good to go with that.

Robert Pattinsons Batman voice is spot on and reminded me of Christian Bale from Batman Begins (before the growl of the sequels). Going into this movie I was ready to give Pattinson a chance because I've seen some of his recent work and do credit him as a good actor though I understand some of the concern from Twilight. But wow.... Robert.... I've not yet seen the film but what I saw of you in the trailer I am very impressed with and cannot wait to see this movie!

 

[OnLeatherWings]

This is what I want to know, because if its him, then it could very well be true

Yes, it is him.

He says he heard it gets destroyed early on, maybe due to the villain (which I've speculated is the cathedral explosion scene).

The poster made a throwaway account and hasn't posted in 6 months now.