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The Beginning is the End is the Beginning vs. Take a Bow

Which song do you like best?

  • Smashing Pumpkins "The Beginning..."

  • Muse "Take a Bow"

  • Love both equally

  • Hate both equally


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I'm trying to figure out what song is played at 28 seconds in on the 2nd trailer... after Philip Glass & beofre Muse.
 
Take a bow, for 2 reasons : I always though it was a great song anyhow, and the meaning behind the song. Fits this film perfectly.

Someone has a video on YouTube of Take a Bow added to shots from Equibrium - I guess both the song and film related to a dystopian society, or at least our progression towards one.

Corrupt, you corrupt,
and Bring corruption to all that you touch.

Hold, you’ll behold,
And be holden for all that you’ve done.

Spell, cast a spell,
Cast a spell on the country you run.

And risk, you will risk,
You will risk all their lives and their souls.

And burn, you will burn,
You will burn in hell, yeah you’ll burn in hell.
You’ll burn in hell, yeah you’ll burn in hell for your sins.

Ooohhh.
Our freedom's consuming itself,
What we've become is contrary to what we want
Take a bow.

Death, you bring death and destruction to all that you touch.

Pay, you must pay
You must pay for your crimes against the earth.

Hex, feed the hex
Feed the hex on the country you love

And Beg, you will beg
You will beg for their lives and their souls.

Yeah,
Burn, you will burn,
You will burn in hell, yeah you’ll burn in hell,
You’ll burn in hell, yeah you’ll burn in hell,
Burn in hell, yeah you'll burn in hell for your sins.


Sounds like an Ode To Bush to me.
 
Sounds like an Ode To Bush to me.

Yeah, a reeeeeeaaally overdramatic one. I think that is the only drawback to this song. It has an immature whining 'I'm-young-stupid-and-inexperienced' quality to it and if it is in fact directed at Bush, it's incredibly overdramatic--there have been far worse presidents and times in history. Just ask your parents about the 60's; the Vietnam war, a government imposed draft, Kent State, major civil unrest, and the fact that the whole country was coming apart in the later 60's. The Iraq war is a cake walk compared to that.

I am not a fan of Bush, but I would not call him a Nazi--because that is just overdramatic and ******ed (and basically what the song does). I would probably throw a shoe at him though.

If it were written for Adrian Veidt? Well then I think you have something.

In terms of vocal style and melody--I love the song, and it suits the film perfectly (any trailers, whatever). It's very catchy and has a incredibly creative musical style for something so recent and basically mainstream.
 
Yeah, a reeeeeeaaally overdramatic one. I think that is the only drawback to this song. It has an immature whining 'I'm-young-stupid-and-inexperienced' quality to it and if it is in fact directed at Bush, it's incredibly overdramatic--there have been far worse presidents and times in history. Just ask your parents about the 60's; the Vietnam war, a government imposed draft, Kent State, major civil unrest, and the fact that the whole country was coming apart in the later 60's. The Iraq war is a cake walk compared to that.

I am not a fan of Bush, but I would not call him a Nazi--because that is just overdramatic and ******ed (and basically what the song does). I would probably throw a shoe at him though.

If it were written for Adrian Veidt? Well then I think you have something.

In terms of vocal style and melody--I love the song, and it suits the film perfectly (any trailers, whatever). It's very catchy and has a incredibly creative musical style for something so recent and basically mainstream.
That was beautiful...:csad:
I feel like I owe you a-...a hug or something...

You have very simply explained what I've been feeling for a couple years now.
you know this world's gone soft when the lyrics of that song are the general whiny consensus of the majority of Americans today...

(tragically beautiful, of course...hence the frownie...)
 
That was beautiful...:csad:
I feel like I owe you a-...a hug or something...

You have very simply explained what I've been feeling for a couple years now.
you know this world's gone soft when the lyrics of that song are the general whiny consensus of the majority of Americans today...

(tragically beautiful, of course...hence the frownie...)

:up:. Cheers, Tortel.

What's even more ******ed is the fact that they are ****ing BRITISH, which makes the song even more nonsensical because it is written from an impassioned American perspective. It would be like me writing a song complaining about the queen or the prime minister like I'm a Brit. As an American, and not a British person--what the **** do I care about the queen or the prime minister??

:huh:
 
:up:. Cheers, Tortel.

What's even more ******ed is the fact that they are ****ing BRITISH, which makes the song even more nonsensical because it is written from an impassioned American perspective. It would be like me writing a song complaining about the queen or the prime minister like I'm a Brit. As an American, and not a British person--what the **** do I care about the queen or the prime minister??

:huh:
Hahaha, wow, I didn't know they were british, I just thought they were super-whiny Americanos...But as you can see I don't know much about music..

Yeah that's pretty stupid, like it's affected our brothers across the pond that much anyways... Wait, has it?
 
Both are AMAZING songs :yay:

and im pretty sure "Take A Bow" is directed at Bush :oldrazz:
 
Before anyone jumps down Muse's throat for being anti-Bush etc, that was only someone's supposition above. In fact, as far as I know, the song was actually directed at Tony Blair when he was in power here in the UK.
 
The two songs stink.

They have ABSOLUTELY NAWTHING to do with Watchmen, in which Alan Moore had the good taste of only including great songs and not this pile of crap for deaf teens and radio stations.
 
I'm trying to figure out what song is played at 28 seconds in on the 2nd trailer... after Philip Glass & beofre Muse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koyaanisqatsi

In the Watchmen trailer shown at Comic-con 2008 the song Prophecies is played as the music for the trailer. The second theatrical trailer for the film combines parts of the 1998 re-recorded Prophecies and Pruit Igoe along with the Glass-influenced Take A Bow by the band Muse.

So the early part of the second trailer features music from the 1998 re-recorded "Prophecies" and the cue you are looking for is from "Pruit Igoe" by Philp Glass.

The duration of Pruit Igoe is about 7:54, the music featured in the trailer starts around the 2:32 mark in that track. Parts of Pruit Igoe was also featured in the Comic Con footage which was released online.

Also "Resource" by Philip Glass is a variation of that cue.

All these tracks are available on the album "Koyaanisqatsi" (released in 1993, a year after the movie). The re-recorded album was released in 1998.
 
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both becuase they match with what watchmen is about
 
At first I thought it was SP vs. Madonna's Take a Bow. Show's how much of a Muse fan I am.
 
I like alot of Muse songs but I wanted to hear the Smashing Pumpkin's song in the movie more because it fit perfectly after being used in the trailer.
 
The two songs stink.

They have ABSOLUTELY NAWTHING to do with Watchmen, in which Alan Moore had the good taste of only including great songs and not this pile of crap for deaf teens and radio stations.

Beginning is the End sounds exacly like a song about the Watchmen.
 
I voted for Muse because I prefer them. Not a big fan of Billy Corgan's voice.
 
Beginning is the End sounds exacly like a song about the Watchmen.

Moore was careful enough to choose good stuff, music that is above their marketing value, songs that came to be part of culture.

Now, Smashing Pumpkins is just a sub-band that came together with the revival of rock promoted by grunge bands, in mid 90's, and far better than SP.

Not to mention this song was part of a sad past for comicbook movies. :oldrazz:

That's why it is a "don't". And second-rate Muse likes to mimic Radiohead, a band that could easily be part of a decent Watchmen soundtrack.

Now Leonard Cohen, Bob Dylan, The Velvet Underground and some others, all those have this quality that fits Watchmen.

And that's why it is so mediocre and quite stupid to put that emo nausea making their enormous and best efforts to mimic The Sex Pistols on a Bob Dylan's song.

:woot: The mind that conceived this idea clearly has issues.
 
Both sound like they could be about Watchmen. But the lyrics in "Take a Bow" sound so pointed to the Watchmen ass a whole and The Comedian and Veidt especially. The song just fits so well with the imagery of the anti-hero riots from '77 in Dan's flashback.

But really, I never thought of this, but at least a large chunk of the views of Watchmen fit perfectly with Bob Dylan's "The Times are a-Changin'," which should make sense as the book is Cold War '80s paranoia left over from the alienation and civil distrust forged in the '60s and early '70s.
 
According to my ipod, I play Take a Bow almost twice as much as The Beginning is the end is the beginning, but as for the trailers, I like both equally.
 

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