Smallville The Best, The Worst of Smallville

Crusade, Rosetta, Commencement, Homecoming. These episodes are in their own league, nothing ever came close to them.
 
I don't hate Season 10 but it didn't reach its true potential.
 
I don't hate Season 10 but it didn't reach its true potential.

Honestly they should have just left the whole darkseid storyline out. The VRA storyline could have served perfectly well as a season arc, especially since they were building up for Clark to step out of the shadows as superman. While I'm not crazy about their version is slade, at least he made for an interesting villain and would have made for an adequate big bad, or hell, have that aged lex clone from be season premier survive the first episode and orchestrate the VRA from the shadows building up for his body to be used by mirror world Lionel to resurrect lex somehow. The luthor legacy and the VRA story lines would have been Perfect to end the show on, darkseid wasn't needed.
 
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I disagree, the Darkseid story should've been given more focus, instead of the VRA arc.
 
Reckoning was one of the first new episodes that I watched since I had just gotten into the show halfway through season 5. I was so excited about the episode and even though I had heard some rumors about who would die, I definitely got teary eyed when it actually happened. That's the first time a TV show ever did that to me.
 
Darkseid was horrible in Smallville, after Doomsday they should have known better. Turning him into the devil was insulting. I also didn't like the Lionel Luthor ploy, it just seemed like a lame attempt to redo evil Lionel from the earlier seasons when they had already changed him. If S10 had focused on Clark proving the govt and world could trust him and then at the end discovering they needed the hidden hero to have a face that would have been good. But I do wish they would not have done the whole govt/military equals evil route.
 
I watched this episode the other day. I still get misty eyed during the funeral scene. :csad:

Everything about that funeral scene was perfect. The song choice was excellent too. It was "I Grieve" by Peter Gabriel.

I also loved how Lex was watching from a distance.
 
Darkseid was horrible in Smallville, after Doomsday they should have known better. Turning him into the devil was insulting. I also didn't like the Lionel Luthor ploy, it just seemed like a lame attempt to redo evil Lionel from the earlier seasons when they had already changed him. If S10 had focused on Clark proving the govt and world could trust him and then at the end discovering they needed the hidden hero to have a face that would have been good. But I do wish they would not have done the whole govt/military equals evil route.

Ah "insulting", typical fanboy outrage. If it wasn't pathetic enough already. Smallville has always changed the characters to fit the story they were telling. Darkseid being the "devil" is no different than Doomsday having a human alter ego. Plus, he wasn't really the devil, he did bring his alien planet and we were told about the apokoliptans and Orion being his son, so his origin as the alien warlord was probably still intact, he just didn't have a physical body. I wanted to see more of that story because there were too many things happening in S10 at once, and Darkseid didn't really get a chance to shine. I knew I wasn't going to see huge battles, this story was about the young hero accepting his destiny, not about the powerhouse vs the epic villain. We did get that in Man of Steel and seems like many weren't happy as well. So what exactly do some people want is beyond me. I don't think they even know themselves.
 
Ah "insulting", typical fanboy outrage. If it wasn't pathetic enough already. Smallville has always changed the characters to fit the story they were telling. Darkseid being the "devil" is no different than Doomsday having a human alter ego. Plus, he wasn't really the devil, he did bring his alien planet and we were told about the apokoliptans and Orion being his son, so his origin as the alien warlord was probably still intact, he just didn't have a physical body. I wanted to see more of that story because there were too many things happening in S10 at once, and Darkseid didn't really get a chance to shine. I knew I wasn't going to see huge battles, this story was about the young hero accepting his destiny, not about the powerhouse vs the epic villain.

You know this is a place for fans to complain right? And his complains are legitimate, i sometimes don't know what is worse, fanboys that complain about everything or fanboys that make excuses for everything :whatever:

We did get that in Man of Steel and seems like many weren't happy as well. So what exactly do some people want is beyond me. I don't think they even know themselves.

People complained because it was bad and the action was excessive, you don't need to be a superman fan to know that

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Except that I wasn't making excuses pal. This person claiming Darkseid's treatment was "insulting" is probably part of the same type of people who've been saying this nonsense about every villain on the show, not realizing that Smallville has always been one alternate universe. Plus, I explained why Darkseid was the way he was, don't you tell me that's an excuse, did you even read what I said? :whatever: Yet, his complaints are legitimate and my defense is an excuse? Damn, fanboys indeed.

PS: From what I've seen, usually to these "people" if the action isn't "excessive", then it's "not enough". They definitely don't know what they want and more than deserve to be called out on it.
 
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First of all I am a fan girl. And you need a better comeback then trying to insult me and generalize me. There were many villains done well on Smallville Lex Luthor being just one of them. Darkseid and Doomsday were the worst portrayed on the show; it was worst for Darkseid because atleast Doomsday was good until the S8 finale. They did not have the budget or time to do Darkseid well and should never have touched him or his minions.
For Doomsday the action was built up, the writers made it seem like something epic was going to happen and then didn't deliver.
For Darkseid I don't want action this version of Clark is so weak he'd get killed in seconds; what I wanted was an actual good villain and story; surprisingly the VRA story was done better despite the shows anti govt bull crap.
 
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I agree. I loved what they did with Doomsday/Davis up until the final showdown between him and Clark.
 
Oh you bet I will generalize you when you act like it. The problem with Darkseid to me was his non-existing presence during the season. Using his minions is a good touch but they should've let his presence be around more often. Davis was a main character in S8, he was always there, Darskeid was like a secondary villain who was barely mentioned, that's what sucked. But there's nothing insulting into changing him into a different type of entity, Bizarro was very different too, so was Brainiac to a certain degree. Darkseid simply lacked the menacing aspect that these guys had, the Omega symbols didn't really compensate for it.
 
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I agree. I loved what they did with Doomsday/Davis up until the final showdown between him and Clark.

Personally I could have lived without the human form of Doomsday. While Darkseid was underwhelming I much preferred what they did with him over Doomsday(which took up way to much tv time)
 
On one hand, I didn't like how they always went for the convenient "someone from the main cast is possessed" that they stories, and how everyone had to be connected somehow. But I can understand that they had a really small budget after a certain point and were trying to cut corners as best as they could.
 
It's been so long since I have watched any of these. Going into season 4, is so great after season 3. The 4th season is so much lighter and funner, with Lois and just the tone of the show. Season 3, as Smallville could get quite often, was very melodramatic.
 
Season 3 was pretty dark but still a favorite of mine. Season 6 was probably the most depressing one IMO.
 
It was depressing alright. The fake baby storyline bored me to death.
 
Season 3 was pretty dark but still a favorite of mine. Season 6 was probably the most depressing one IMO.

I would actually argue Season 5 was the most depressing Season, Season 6 was most like a soap opera(more melodrama then actual depressing storylines).
 
The best: when the show actually had a budget and could afford to shoot on location instead of using and reusing the same sets/lots over and over again.

The worst: when they didn't and couldn't.
 
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The best: when the show actually had a budget and could afford to shoot on location instead of using and reusing the same sets/lots over and over again.

The worst: when they didn't and couldn't.

Yes. That is one of the reasons why I mainly think the earlier seasons are better than the later ones.
 
I don't get why everyone hates season 7 so much. I thought the Veritas storyline was awesome and a nice throwback to the earlier seasons regarding the Superman mythos.

Season 5 post Reckoning and season 6 was the worst Smallville era of all time for me (I stopped watching at season 8).
 
I kinda agree that everything after Reckoning and season 6 was the worst, but at the same time, I feel like it was also very necessary. I mean I really could done without Lexana, but I felt like Homecoming did a good job at demonstrating how important Jonathan's death was and how it sort of pushed Clark away from his destiny, in terms of how he was inside, and The Green Arrow's first run was a big saving grace for that first half of season 6.

And I agree, Veritas was a good arc that only got ruined because of the Writer's strike that year and the forced and early "departure" of Lana and Lex. I think the payoff would have been much better had they had the right amount of time to plan it all out.
 
The Good:

Phantom Zone: Everything about the Phantom Zone was good except for Lil Bow Wow. The phantoms getting released and Clark chasing them down was good. The Titan fight was probably the best physical fight on the show by far. The Zod phantom zone episode was good. The empty dark desert look was good. Pretty much everything involving the phantom zone I thought was pretty good. Except for the scenes where characters were stuck in the mirror box floating in air, that looked stupid. And again, Lil Bow Wow... SMH...

Lex Luthor: It's kind of sad that a show this cheesy produced the best live action Lex Luthor we'll probably ever see. Though some of the storyline's they gave him were incredibly dumb. But his performance was always good.

Lionel Luthor: The original bad version. Once he went good it was done, even when they brought him back later on as the evil version it was never the same. But in the beginning he was very good.

Green Arrow: He ended up being my favorite hero character on show.

Supergirl: There were some pretty bad moments here and there but overall I liked the character and what's not to like about Laura Vandervoort? Yeah there are better actresses out there but she's awesome in my book.

Tom Welling: He was well above average most of the time.

Zod: His storyline was probably the best villain storyline, because it wasn't around long enough to take the dumb twists and turns that Lex's storyline did.

Brainiac: His last appearance as the good Brainiac sent back in time to motivate Clark was dumb but otherwise he was pretty good.

The first half of the VRA/Checkmate arch. It was good at first. But it went bad really fast unfortunately.

The Doomsday wedding attack. Most of the Doomsday storyline was crap but I liked the wedding attack.

The Justice League episode when they attacked Lex's factory together. That was solid despite me not really caring for the actors playing Flash/Cyborg. Aquaman was ok but not great.

The Bad:

Chloe Sullivan: Nothing about the character or any of her storylines was interesting. The actress was annoying, the character was annoying. Her progression into a bigger role was annoying. There wasn't a single thing I liked about that character. Especially when she started backtalking Clark about his virtue and how he wasn't able to make the hard decisions, what? He saved your life like 5000 times you worthless....

The Cave: So long, so boring, so stupid, so cheesy. It was a never ending storyline that was crap from the start and only got worse as it went along.

Lana's progression. She went from a innocent, likeable character to an increasingly annoying, misused and useless character. The ancient witch storyline was arguably the worst storyline in a show full of stupid storylines. Her constantly whining about Clark's secret was ******ed, her constantly blaming Clark for this, that and the other was stupid.

The Ashmore twins: Both of them are annoying as all hell and both of their characters were annoying. Don't like them on The Following or X-Men either (still don't know which is which or ever care to, they are awful).

The second half of the VRA/Checkmate storyline. Martha Kent as Red Queen was another storyline that was arguably the worst on the show. Maxwell Lord was dumb. Granny Goodness is just a dumb character period, in any medium. Darkseid was a stupid floating cloud of mist. Started out good, went downhill very fast.

The future hero's coming back in time to warn Clark. That whole thing was terrible. None of them were interesting characters.

The Booster Gold episode. Though that really could have been excellently executed and I still wouldn't have liked it because I hate the character of Booster Gold in general.

The constant back and fourth of every character turning good and evil at one point or another. Not one character was good for entire show or bad for the entire show. Every single one went opposite of how they started, usually for incredibly stupid and illogical reasons.
 

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