Infinity War The Black Widow Thread

[Capsfan]

Bucky participates in the conversation between Steve and Natasha at the airport.

Em, no. Bucky didn't say a word and camera didn't depict him as a participant of the conversation. It's the close-ups on Natasha and Steve only.

 

[ScarlettW]

After CW I'm not so sure. We have seen this weird request from Natasha to recognize her. Bucky takes BW's gun in the quinjet (minor, I know, but what's the purpose of that close-up 'Romanoff'?). I've seen Buckynat fans being pretty sure that this was a setup. Maybe after Brutasha fiasco Marvel wants comic-canon popular partner for BW and they consider a retcon. Fans constantly ask the Russos about Buckynat. Their responses have been vague so far: maybe yes, maybe no, maybe rain, maybe snow. Stan wants it too.
There are no guarantees really. They've said that the reasons, why they didn't want to get Natasha with Steve in TWS, were a feeling that Natasha would have been there just to be a romantic interest and that there was no time. Civil War comes and what I see? Double standards. These same reasons are totally ignored for Sharon, the romance is rushed, even though there is even less time for it. Before CW I was certain that the Russos would never rush an underdeveloped romance for the sake of kisses. Now I'm not so sure they aren't gonna retcon Buckynat. I don't trust them regarding romantic relationships anymore. I've even got some qualms about Scarlet Vision.

Can't think of another haircut for BW. I love her CW's hair style too much, she was so beautiful with it, couldn't take my eyes of her.

The quinjet scene was an Easter egg for me. And the scene "recognize me" was clarified in the dvd on the two times that they met in Odessa and in the bridge.
I think Russos will not say no this isn't going to happen because they need to keep the fans interested, but they haven't shown anything in the movies that this is going to happen. Not even at the airport scene when she lets them go, she never looks at Bucky. The scene is with her and Steve.

I loved her hair in CW, although in some scenes it was clear that it was a wig.

 

[Capsfan]

The quinjet scene was an Easter egg for me. And the scene "recognize me" was clarified in the dvd on the two times that they met in Odessa and in the bridge.
I think Russos will not say no this isn't going to happen because they need to keep the fans interested, but they haven't shown anything in the movies that this is going to happen. Not even at the airport scene when she lets them go, she never looks at Bucky. The scene is with her and Steve.

Well, that makes sense. I hope you're right.

 

[Not A Hero]

I really wanted to be an extra in this a few months ago, but all the casting agencies took the piss, claiming they were looking for extras when in reality, only one (The Casting Collective) was needing extras for a church scene in England. That's pretty much just a scam. Universal Extras wanted me to renew before today, but I shall not.

We as a country were apparently dropped because of people wasting the crew's time with World War Z, which is totally unrelated to Marvel. Now, I can see why they were angry, yet it's unfair to snub an entire country full of hard working people due to a few morons wanting to play 'Meet the celeb' instead of being professional. They still filmed key scenes in Edinburgh, though, just without supporting artistes.

 

[Minxie]

Scarlett and Sebastian training together.
(I think this was taken in NY because those are Sebastian's personal trainers so I assume it's at their gym there)

 

[Capsfan]

Scarlett and Sebastian training together.
(I think this was taken in NY because those are Sebastian's personal trainers so I assume it's at their gym there)

You can tell Sebastian being uncomfortable by his pose XD

 

[Wildcard]

Haha he's the only one there that look legitimately pissed off.

 

[ScarlettW]

Scarlett and Sebastian training together.
(I think this was taken in NY because those are Sebastian's personal trainers so I assume it's at their gym there)

He is also her personal trainer.

Sebastian is not uncomfortable. He always does this in some photos.

 

[Capsfan]

I would say it's not a very recent shot. Sebastian has been noticed in this shirt the other day already before he started filming IW and we know that all the heroes are now in Atlanta. All the Chris' are currently there, so I bet SJ and Stan are getting there too.

 

[ScarlettW]

I would say it's not a very recent shot. Sebastian has been noticed in this shirt the other day already before he started filming IW and we know that all the heroes are now in Atlanta. All the Chris' are currently there, so I bet SJ and Stan are getting there too.

Yes, this pic is from last week.

 

[Capsfan]

I've read a rumor on reddit that the Russos said BW/Hulk is over. Does anybody know if it's true? I just don't remember them saying so.
And if it's true, do you guys think the Russos will give up under the popularity of Buckynat and make it happen in the present, without their shared history from the comics?

 

[Panacea]

99.9% of the audience has never heard of "Buckynat".

 

[Capsfan]

Well, yeah, but judging by Steve/Sharon and Wanda/Vision, Marvel wants to please comic-book fans. And Buckynat is very-very popular among them.

 

[ScarlettW]

I've read a rumor on reddit that the Russos said BW/Hulk is over. Does anybody know if it's true? I just don't remember them saying so.
And if it's true, do you guys think the Russos will give up under the popularity of Buckynat and make it happen in the present, without their shared history from the comics?

No, they never said that. But I hope it's true, one of the worst romance I've ever seen in a movie.

Hulk and Natasha not happening anymore does not mean she's going to have a romance with Bucky. The romance was one of the biggest criticisms that AOU received because of what they did to her character.
Putting her into romance with another character will receive criticism again.

 

[Olan]

Not famaliar with the comic story but given the power of Thanos and scope of story I do not see how BW will play much of a role. She is not superpowered at all.

Not a criticism because I love BW

 

[MbJ]

Not famaliar with the comic story but given the power of Thanos and scope of story I do not see how BW will play much of a role. She is not superpowered at all.

Not a criticism because I love BW

People have said this a number of times and it's kind of showing limited imagination.

Black Widow not being able to fistfight Thanos is only a problem if both movies are one long 5 hour hand-to-hand battle with Thanos. There is likely way more than that going on in the plot.

 

[Wildcard]

I disagree on the limited imagination bit. Fight scenes aside, I still don't see how Black Widow or Hawkeye will be useful in such a cataclysmic situation. And not just because they're powerless...it's not like it's a situation where either possess Hank/Janet/ Pym, Tony Stark, etc. level intelligence & could pull off something clever.

What are they gonna do? Hack Thanos' hovering chair and give it a nasty virus?

 

[ScarlettW]

I disagree on the limited imagination bit. Fight scenes aside, I still don't see how Black Widow or Hawkeye will be useful in such a cataclysmic situation. And not just because they're powerless...it's not like it's a situation where either possess Hank/Janet/ Pym, Tony Stark, etc. level intelligence & could pull off something clever.

What are they gonna do? Hack Thanos' hovering chair and give it a nasty virus?

Hu? I think this is going to be a team effort, even though Nat and Clint aren't powerful. In fact, I don't even think they will all fight directly against Thanos, but against his army.
It seems like people are just keeping in mind all the avengers fighting together against thanos, punching him here and there, sure it will not be like that.
I think it will be like Lord of the Rings, a fight against a powerful army, while the most powerful Avengers go against Thanos.

 

[MbJ]

I disagree on the limited imagination bit. Fight scenes aside, I still don't see how Black Widow or Hawkeye will be useful in such a cataclysmic situation.

That's because we don't know exactly what the cataclysmic situation is or if that's gonna be the entirety of the two films. People are acting like the entirety of the runtime of the two films is gonna be earth getting all exploded and the Avengers trying to punch Thanos in the face.

What are they gonna do? Hack Thanos' hovering chair and give it a nasty virus?

Again this is only relevant if you're assuming the entirety of the titular "War" is just gonna be Thanos vs. everyone else. We already know that is not the case.

 

[MbJ]

Hu? I think this is going to be a team effort, even though Nat and Clint aren't powerful. In fact, I don't even think they will all fight directly against Thanos, but against his army.
It seems like people are just keeping in mind all the avengers fighting together against thanos, punching him here and there, sure it will not be like that.
I think it will be like Lord of the Rings, a fight against a powerful army, while the most powerful Avengers go against Thanos.

People have it in their heads that the entirety of the two movies will basically be the original Infinity Gauntlet mini-series even though it should be obvious by now that's not actually in the case.

 

[zephyrinthesky]

I disagree on the limited imagination bit. Fight scenes aside, I still don't see how Black Widow or Hawkeye will be useful in such a cataclysmic situation. And not just because they're powerless...it's not like it's a situation where either possess Hank/Janet/ Pym, Tony Stark, etc. level intelligence & could pull off something clever.

What are they gonna do? Hack Thanos' hovering chair and give it a nasty virus?

......possibly steal Cap's shield from Stark and give Steve back his weapon and (symbolically) his purpose?

Lots of potential ideas for Widow's role without reducing the movie to a spreadsheet of power levels.

 

[Xeno]

Black Widow has been dogged by questions about her usefulness to the team since before The Avengers came out. (So has Hawkeye.) Even though some fans constantly belittle Natasha's contributions, the writers and directors have found innovative ways to use her skills in every film. There was much snark about Nat's "little guns" before TA, but she not only commandeered more powerful weapons but also figured out how to close the Chitauri portal. That took intelligence and some athletic skill, but not brute force. One imagines that her role in IW will be similar, in that she will handle tasks that call for finesse rather than sheer strength.

 

[zephyrinthesky]

Black Widow has been dogged by questions about her usefulness to the team since before The Avengers came out. (So has Hawkeye.) Even though some fans constantly belittle Natasha's contributions, the writers and directors have found innovative ways to use her skills in every film. There was much snark about Nat's "little guns" before TA, but she not only commandeered more powerful weapons but also figured out how to close the Chitauri portal. That took intelligence and some athletic skill, but not brute force. One imagines that her role in IW will be similar, in that she will handle tasks that call for finesse rather than sheer strength.

Superhero geeks love the big fight scenes with smart-ass dudes in colourful costumes who can fly and punch people through walls. Unfortunately Widow and Hawkeye excel in situations that require a level head, cunning, and tactical prowess instead of bombast. They're precisely about getting the job done without creating a scene.

Theoretically, Widow should be as skilled as Cap/Winter Soldier in martial arts/weapons training, as resourceful as Rocket in creating improvised explosives, better than Scott Lang at stealing stuff and just a notch below Tony Stark in computer hacking. You'd think that would come in handy at some point in IW.

 

[WarriorDreamer]

I want a Black Widow movie. After the success of Wonder Woman, this could be a good idea.

I think they should have her on a solo mission. Have some of the Avengers cameo a little but its her movie.

Don't do an origin story but show her at different ages. I'd say cast someone younger to do the flashback scenes of her first training and her decision to be a spy. Perhaps when she was a teenager.

It could be a good idea.

 

[Chesterfield]

No its a terrible idea; especially as the earliest she could get a film would be in phase 4. BW has been established and clearly functions well as a supporting character or co lead with a bigger character. Lastly, BW isn't Wonder Woman.