The Border Crisis

[Figs]

You havent been keeping up with what the cartel is doing in the border towns in mexico have you? Our economic woes are nothing compared to the threats of daily beheadings and gruesome death. At least in America they have an opportunity. I dont blame parents. If I had children and had no other choice Id get my kids across the border as well. U.S. laws be damned.

And our country could afford this just fine. Just like it could afford to help veterans if it wasnt blowing so much money on a bloated military budget and other wasteful things.

Im fine with turning back adults, but we shouldnt be turning kids back especially kids in need of medical attention. If they must go back then they should be stabalized and their illnesses properly treated before they are sent back. Yes, I know the precedent that sets, but I really dont care. US doctors go all across the world giving medical care to impoverished people so why cant they do that for sick kids who come across the border?

And why exactly cant we at least allow these children to be adopted by US families?

I know about the drug cartels and the violence that stems from them. I wasn't trying to say they don't have it bad south of America's borders.

I completely agree that we could possibly afford to help them if our government wasn't pissing away our taxes but that was my point. Since our taxes are being pissed away, we're not in good shape to be taking in all these illegals. I also agree that the kids shouldn't just be turned away, that's a bit cold hearted and if people want to adopt them that's great, even though there are plenty of american kids that should be adopted first. We're in a bad spot right now so it's not good financially to take in every single person that hops the border. Like you said, we should treat the kids with medical attention if needed but after that they should be sent back. We really need to get our country's **** straightened out before spending money we kind of don't have on people who aren't citizens.

Sorry if I came across as cold hearted in my previous post, I didn't mean to be. I do think it's sad that these kids are living in terrible conditions and their parents want to give them a better life but the way our country is going it won't be all that much better for them in the near future. That's me being a bit pessimistic but I really think it's only a matter of time before America crumbles financially. That's a discussion for another thread though.

All in all, our government needs to stop messing around spending taxes on wars we really shouldn't get involved in if they want to spend all this money on the border issue.

 

[Thundercrack85]

You know, I think people need to either change their tune, or give the Statue of Liberty back to France.

Tens of thousands of Guatemalan kids. Oh no. Maybe America needs to deal with a real refugee crisis to get some perspective. Go talk to Lebanon.

It's amazing what America can find the time, money and energy for (wars waged in a different hemisphere), but then can't manage a stadium's worth of kids.

 

[Figs]

You know, I think people need to either change their tune, or give the Statue of Liberty back to France.

Tens of thousands of Guatemalan kids. Oh no. Maybe America needs to deal with a real refugee crisis to get some perspective. Go talk to Lebanon.

It's amazing what America can find the time, money and energy for (wars waged in a different hemisphere), but then can't manage a stadium's worth of kids.

1. Tens of thousands of kids is a lot and adds up quick with the money spent on them. As I had said already, I do agree that we need to stop spending money on BS wars.

2. I've gotten tired of people using the "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free." excuse. People choose to forget that the millions of immigrants that came through Ellis Island starting roughly in 1892 had to register to become legal citizens. People who would end up paying taxes and help put back into the country/system's economy that took them in. Illegals don't really contribute in regards to taxes and they get free medical attention. Something a good deal of Americans were denied during the recession when they lost jobs and had no health insurance.

Sorry but I'm done with the bs that America should take in anyone and everyone without question just because we took in millions a long time ago. Which was primarily to build up the country anyways.

Out of curiosity Thundercrack. Are you American? I'm asking because the way you worded your post. "Maybe America needs to deal with a real refugee crisis", "It's amazing what America can find the time, money and energy for (wars waged in a different hemisphere)".

 

[Thundercrack85]

How do you expect these people to pay for something they are incapable of paying for it? Even those who have the money, can't, because federal and state laws don't allow them to pay taxes, or use proper channels.

I am a (legal) resident of the United States (read: I pay taxes). An Americanized European, is what I would consider myself.

Fortunately, being whiter than most Americans, and lacking a noticeable accent, I don't have to put up with a lot of the crap many immigrants, legal and illegal have to put up with. Never even been pulled over.

I do however sympathize with them. I know how fundamentally broken and unfair the American immigration system is.

Granted, I do think illegal immigration is a problem, but I doubt these skinheads are marching because they are upset about people lacking proper documentation. There is an obvious racist element in the groups that most oppose immigration.

A hundred years ago, they would be saying the same things, just to the Irish and the Italians.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I could understand if America barely had any room but there's plenty of room.

If foreign parents are willing to give away their kids (think how difficult that must be) and American families are willing to accept them then there shouldn't be a problem.

 

[SV Fan]

Personally I think in situations like this we have to follow the words of Jesus and Jesus would tell people in need of help to get the hell out and go back home you moochers

 

[Thundercrack85]

I'm not saying it should be a free for all, but the world's only superpower should be able to handle a bunch of kids.

Was there this much whining with Operation Babylift?

The way the Republicans are talking is just ridiculous.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...ens-Foundation-Of-Our-Constitutional-Republic

Nazi Germany, and the Empire of Japan combined and a 50 year war with the Soviet Empire couldn't take down America, but 50,000 dehydrated Central American kids are?

Grow a pair.

 

[SV Fan]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...ens-Foundation-Of-Our-Constitutional-Republic

Nazi Germany, and the Empire of Japan combined and a 50 year war with the Soviet Empire couldn't take down America, but 50,000 dehydrated Central American kids are?

Wait a minute I thought Obamacare was going to threaten America as we know it

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Let's be honest. People figure if your country has a refugee crisis then the people of your country are to blame for the failed state your country has become and if too many of your people are allowed into the US it will drag America down.

While I disagree with the sentiment, I understand the logic and I think an honest debate would acknowledge the reasoning behind some of this xenophobia.

Let's not pretend the anti-immigration push is a knee jerk reaction, it's far more calculated.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

My suspicion is that this anti-immigration push is the final stage in Manifest Destiny which always had some racist aspects to it.

 

[NHawk19]

I could understand if America barely had any room but there's plenty of room.

If foreign parents are willing to give away their kids (think how difficult that must be) and American families are willing to accept them then there shouldn't be a problem.

There are a lot of factors at play here and its not about room. It's about funding and America caring for its Vets, homeless, mentally handicapped, and physically handicapped people before moving on to non-citizens.

The towns that these kids are being sent to can't handle the burden in their school systems or provide healthcare. Now the people who paid taxes and are trying to get their kids a better education are using more of their tax dollars to fund education for illegal immagrants. That in turn slows the overall classroom growth of those who followed the rules and paid taxes.

In terms of healthcare we're now also having to clean and house these immigrants. Plus we'll incur the cost of immunizations and treatment for any number of illness including tuberculosis, chicken pox, etc.

http://www.mankatofreepress.com/sta...y-to-spread-disease-but-may-need-medical-care

These kids really need to be returned to their parents in their own country. America needs to figure out how to focus on it's own people before focusing on those who are trying to benefit without having contributed.

Long term we also need to be mindful of creating a new group who are dependent upon welfare instead of contributing because welfare and government subsidies are what they have been exposed to and benefited from, instead of an honest days work for an honest days pay.

 

[Figs]

How do you expect these people to pay for something they are incapable of paying for it? Even those who have the money, can't, because federal and state laws don't allow them to pay taxes, or use proper channels.

I am a (legal) resident of the United States (read: I pay taxes). An Americanized European, is what I would consider myself.

Thanks for clarifying. At first I thought you weren't an American due to the way you worded those last couple of comments in one of your previous posts. If you weren't American I wouldn't bother to keep responding since I think it's not anyone else's business to say what our country should be doing on this matter.

Fortunately, being whiter than most Americans, and lacking a noticeable accent, I don't have to put up with a lot of the crap many immigrants, legal and illegal have to put up with. Never even been pulled over.

I do however sympathize with them. I know how fundamentally broken and unfair the American immigration system is.

I agree that it's a bit broken, the process and steps to become legal takes way too long with the waiting list and all. Even if you already have the proper documentation to be here , it still takes quite awhile to actually become fully legal. Other than that, if you come in illegally, IE: no work/student visa or green card, you shouldn't get a free pass. Especially since you didn't get any kind of background check. People just focus on the children but I wonder how many foreigners with criminal backgrounds have made it in. As Marvolo brought up, give the children medical attention if needed but wee shouldn't keep them here indefinitely though.

Granted, I do think illegal immigration is a problem, but I doubt these skinheads are marching because they are upset about people lacking proper documentation. There is an obvious racist element in the groups that most oppose immigration.

A hundred years ago, they would be saying the same things, just to the Irish and the Italians.

I agree to an extent. I don't think everyone complaining or marching are actual racists. A lot of them might be but some of them I imagine share my concerns about the tax payer's money going to this issue.

Nazi Germany, and the Empire of Japan combined and a 50 year war with the Soviet Empire couldn't take down America, but 50,000 dehydrated Central American kids are?

I never said this specific problem would take down the country but it's money we shouldn't be spending, only because of the ridiculous wars we've gotten into. If we never got involved with fighting over in the middle east during Bush's presidency and now Obama's, I would have no problem with our country spending some of our taxes on this issue. It's because of the money spent on these wars is why I think it's just a bad time for all of this. Also, it's not like these kids are the last bunch to come over, it will just go on and on and on, thus the spending will increase more. There's a point where we really should turn them away. Take care of this mass amount of people that recently crossed over from South America, but limit the borders. I say limit because I don't think we'll ever fully close them, and that would be kind of ridiculous anyways.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Will immigrants use those same social services, as some immigration opponents contend, adding to the cost of the nation’s welfare state? Yes, but not as often as they’ll pay into it. In 2007, the Congressional Budget Office analyzed the issue while assessing President George W. Bush’s proposed immigration reforms. It found that legalizing undocumented immigrants would increase federal revenue by $48 billion while costing only $23 billion in increased public services — and that’s before accounting for the broader economic benefits of immigration.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...out-the-economy-then-pass-immigration-reform/

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

1. Tens of thousands of kids is a lot and adds up quick with the money spent on them. As I had said already, I do agree that we need to stop spending money on BS wars.

2. I've gotten tired of people using the "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free." excuse. People choose to forget that the millions of immigrants that came through Ellis Island starting roughly in 1892 had to register to become legal citizens. People who would end up paying taxes and help put back into the country/system's economy that took them in. Illegals don't really contribute in regards to taxes and they get free medical attention. Something a good deal of Americans were denied during the recession when they lost jobs and had no health insurance.

Sorry but I'm done with the bs that America should take in anyone and everyone without question just because we took in millions a long time ago. Which was primarily to build up the country anyways.

Out of curiosity Thundercrack. Are you American? I'm asking because the way you worded your post. "Maybe America needs to deal with a real refugee crisis", "It's amazing what America can find the time, money and energy for (wars waged in a different hemisphere)".

I'm sick of BS excuses like this. Unless you are Native American than you have no room whatsoever to complain about immigrants. It makes me sick how people think that just because we are in modern times that what this country was founded on should be thrown out the window. It's a long line of Immigrants come get settled and then hate the next group and it's stupid as hell. People act like by helping these children we are directly cutting funding for the vets or the homeless etc. and that is a bunch of BS. We spend billions each year on foreign aid to other countries as well as aid for our own. Yet I don't see you speaking out against the cities and states that have made pan handling and feeding the homeless illegal.

It's also racist for people to up and assume that these immigrant children (who are escaping unspeakable horror) are going to sit around and collect government checks their whole life. Coming from the circumstances they do I wouldn't be surprised if they work their asses off to give themselves a better life and improve this country. 95% of the illegal immigrants in this country work harder and longer than the good majority of Americans every day for much less. The majority of them will only seek medical attention when something is very serious and sometimes not even then because they would rather live in this country working like slaves than go back to their country. I'll also give you a news flash that there are a majority of illegals who do pay taxes since they use someone else's social security number and those taxes are collected and 9 times out of 10 the owner doesn't realize they could be claiming more so the government doesn't have to refund that in a tax refund.

Really getting sick of people acting like a few thousand kids are going to bring this country to it's knees.

 

[Figs]

I'm sick of BS excuses like this. Unless you are Native American than you have no room whatsoever to complain about immigrants. It makes me sick how people think that just because we are in modern times that what this country was founded on should be thrown out the window. It's a long line of Immigrants come get settled and then hate the next group and it's stupid as hell. People act like by helping these children we are directly cutting funding for the vets or the homeless etc. and that is a bunch of BS. We spend billions each year on foreign aid to other countries as well as aid for our own. Yet I don't see you speaking out against the cities and states that have made pan handling and feeding the homeless illegal.


Hahaha! Please, that native american argument doesn't hold water. That was yeeeaaars ago. None of us alive today had anything to do with it so save the PC Lib bs. Also, the early part of the past century, the "long line of Immigrants" registered and became legal citizens. I love how in all the years of discussion on illegal immigration people purposefully ignore the fact that it's not about new people coming into the country but the fact they are doing so illegally. Helping these kids is not directly cutting funding for our vets and homeless(thanks for trying to put words in my mouth though)but it is money that could have been there to possibly give to those two groups.

It's also racist for people to up and assume that these immigrant children (who are escaping unspeakable horror) are going to sit around and collect government checks their whole life. Coming from the circumstances they do I wouldn't be surprised if they work their asses off to give themselves a better life and improve this country. 95% of the illegal immigrants in this country work harder and longer than the good majority of Americans every day for much less. The majority of them will only seek medical attention when something is very serious and sometimes not even then because they would rather live in this country working like slaves than go back to their country. I'll also give you a news flash that there are a majority of illegals who do pay taxes since they use someone else's social security number and those taxes are collected and 9 times out of 10 the owner doesn't realize they could be claiming more so the government doesn't have to refund that in a tax refund.

1. I never said(as well as numerous others)that the kids get to sit around collecting checks from our government. The money being spent as I have brought up in the past is the money to shelter them and give medical checkups and attention once they enter the country. It's not like they're going to be able to sign up for welfare or something.

There are no facts to back up your absolute BS "95% of immigrants work harder than the majority of American citizens. By saying that, I'm guessing you magically know the majority of Americans AND illegals in this country and have talked to them all about their work/work ethic. Using someone elses's SS number is highly illegal, I believe it's called "identity theft". I'm sure some do in fact pay taxes but since they are illegal, I doubt most of them get jobs that Don't pay under the table, meaning taxes aren't getting taken out of their pay.

Really getting sick of people acting like a few thousand kids are going to bring this country to it's knees.

Once again, you are purposefully making **** up that I never said. I didn't say these kids will bring about the fall of America. I was merely saying that it's not the best time to be dumping money on this because of the money we've spent on ignorant wars.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/31/worried-about-the-economy-then-pass-immigration-reform/

This I agree with. If the legalization process was a lot fast, they can become legal citizens and truly contribute with taxes.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Once again, you are purposefully making **** up that I never said. I didn't say these kids will bring about the fall of America. I was merely saying that it's not the best time to be dumping money on this because of the money we've spent on ignorant wars.



This I agree with. If the legalization process was a lot fast, they can become legal citizens and truly contribute with taxes.

Do they buy food and goods? They pay taxes. You think jobs that illegal immigrants can get are cushy desk jobs that everyone wants? No, they are out in fields everyday working their asses off for next to nothing. This country was founded by immigrants and it doesn't matter if it was a long time ago or not. Illegal or legal this country has always had a certain group of racist ***holes that have your kind of mindset that immigrants are going to destroy the country. I'm glad you don't feel the need to help people in a less fortunate situation than you because god forbid you ever fall on hard times. And I really hope your baselss fears of the US government come to fruition so that you and your family have to migrate to China or some other prosperous country to survive and then you can see what it feels like to be an unwelcome immigrant

 

[NHawk19]

But they are putting a strain on schools in MA already. Plus because of their lack of education before hand they're dropping test scores for districts which is taking even more money out of the schools pockets

http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/26...mmigrant-children-are-stressing-city-services

Not to mention we are sacrificing helping the homeless to deal with this situation.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014...ofits-to-shelter-undocumented-children-in-la/

Also they're contributing to lower wages where you don't have to be a skilled worker, because there is an excessive amount of people seeking those jobs. The reason low wage jobs are low wage is because there are more people seeking them than there are openings for i.e. more supply than there is demand. Also it's not just farming which is impacted it'll be fast food workers and other retail employees.

 

[Figs]

Do they buy food and goods? They pay taxes. You think jobs that illegal immigrants can get are cushy desk jobs that everyone wants? No, they are out in fields everyday working their asses off for next to nothing. This country was founded by immigrants and it doesn't matter if it was a long time ago or not. Illegal or legal this country has always had a certain group of racist ***holes that have your kind of mindset that immigrants are going to destroy the country. I'm glad you don't feel the need to help people in a less fortunate situation than you because god forbid you ever fall on hard times. And I really hope your baselss fears of the US government come to fruition so that you and your family have to migrate to China or some other prosperous country to survive and then you can see what it feels like to be an unwelcome immigrant

What I said isn't racist so get over it. Once again, I also said that I don't think this will destroy the country but it's not good financially. Of course you chose to ignore that, typical Lib move. I give to charity as much as possible, you're reaching with your arguments and way to be "mature" wishing bad things on my family. I don't get why some people get so ******** over this immigration thing. Am I forced to assume you're hispanic and biased?

But they are putting a strain on schools in MA already. Plus because of their lack of education before hand they're dropping test scores for districts which is taking even more money out of the schools pockets

http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/26...mmigrant-children-are-stressing-city-services

Not to mention we are sacrificing helping the homeless to deal with this situation.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014...ofits-to-shelter-undocumented-children-in-la/

Also they're contributing to lower wages where you don't have to be a skilled worker, because there is an excessive amount of people seeking those jobs. The reason low wage jobs are low wage is because there are more people seeking them than there are openings for i.e. more supply than there is demand. Also it's not just farming which is impacted it'll be fast food workers and other retail employees.

Don't bother posting facts, it will just be ignored. You're right about the fast food workers. My sister works at an IHOP and her manager who apparently isn't even legal(how the **** did he become a manager??)hires a number of illegals and guess what, they get paid under the table.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

What I said isn't racist so get over it. Once again, I also said that I don't think this will destroy the country but it's not good financially. Of course you chose to ignore that, typical Lib move. I give to charity as much as possible, you're reaching with your arguments and way to be "mature" wishing bad things on my family. I don't get why some people get so ******** over this immigration thing. Am I forced to assume you're hispanic and biased?

Love how you claim not to be racist and then turn around and ask if I'm hispanic since that would make me obviously biased. Classy move. And to answer your question I'm white. I'm not wishing anything bad happens to your family, I simply stated I hope you get your wish since you said you think America is going to financially collapse. Then you could leave your privelged life and see for yourself how it feels to be an immigrant. Not sure if you realize this but there are a large majority of illegal immigrants here in FL so I happen to know many families that are personally affected by this. It would be a boon to this country to give amnesty to those already here since it would wast considerably more money to try and kick them all out and then we can fix the border issues and immigration process going forward.

 

[Figs]

Love how you claim not to be racist and then turn around and ask if I'm hispanic since that would make me obviously biased. Classy move. And to answer your question I'm white. I'm not wishing anything bad happens to your family, I simply stated I hope you get your wish since you said you think America is going to financially collapse. Then you could leave your privelged life and see for yourself how it feels to be an immigrant. Not sure if you realize this but there are a large majority of illegal immigrants here in FL so I happen to know many families that are personally affected by this. It would be a boon to this country to give amnesty to those already here since it would wast considerably more money to try and kick them all out and then we can fix the border issues and immigration process going forward.

Asking a simple question does not make me racist. I was actually curious because in my experience with discussing this topic on and off the internet, a good number of the people who blindly think Illegal immigration is ok are hispanic. From those I've talked to as well as a LOT of the protestors show on TV the past number of years. That doesn't mean they all are of course.

I agree somewhat with giving amnesty to the ones who are already here. Just make them legal citizens and while doing so, try to keep everyone else from coming in for the time being until we can fix the issues.

 

[Destructus86]

Wait a minute I thought Obamacare was going to threaten America as we know it

Obamacare killed my dog and made all my plants wilt!!

 

[OsGom]

How do you expect these people to pay for something they are incapable of paying for it? Even those who have the money, can't, because federal and state laws don't allow them to pay taxes, or use proper channels.

I am a (legal) resident of the United States (read: I pay taxes). An Americanized European, is what I would consider myself.

Fortunately, being whiter than most Americans, and lacking a noticeable accent, I don't have to put up with a lot of the crap many immigrants, legal and illegal have to put up with. Never even been pulled over.

I do however sympathize with them. I know how fundamentally broken and unfair the American immigration system is.

Granted, I do think illegal immigration is a problem, but I doubt these skinheads are marching because they are upset about people lacking proper documentation. There is an obvious racist element in the groups that most oppose immigration.

A hundred years ago, they would be saying the same things, just to the Irish and the Italians.

I have to agree here.

Besides, these children aren't illegal immigrants, they are refugees fleeing horrible violence and conditions in their home countries. They didn't sneak into this country, they turned themselves into border guards. We are obligated as Americans, and because GW said so, to hear their cases.

These groups condemning these children make me ashamed to be American. As Thunder said, other countries deal with MUCH worse refugee issues, what makes us so special that we can just turn them away out of hand. If ANY other country in the world took the same stance, we would publicly crucify them.

In addition, it's not like we are bearing sole responsibility in this crisis. Refugee children are flowing into ALL South American countries. Comparatively, the US is far more stable and able to help these kids.

Whenever we are trying to justify the use of military force, our politicians constantly throw out that we need to intervene for all the suffering children.

Where is that compassion now when the problem is on our doorstep?

 

[Kelly]

I'm sick of BS excuses like this. Unless you are Native American than you have no room whatsoever to complain about immigrants. It makes me sick how people think that just because we are in modern times that what this country was founded on should be thrown out the window. It's a long line of Immigrants come get settled and then hate the next group and it's stupid as hell. People act like by helping these children we are directly cutting funding for the vets or the homeless etc. and that is a bunch of BS. We spend billions each year on foreign aid to other countries as well as aid for our own. Yet I don't see you speaking out against the cities and states that have made pan handling and feeding the homeless illegal.

It's also racist for people to up and assume that these immigrant children (who are escaping unspeakable horror) are going to sit around and collect government checks their whole life. Coming from the circumstances they do I wouldn't be surprised if they work their asses off to give themselves a better life and improve this country. 95% of the illegal immigrants in this country work harder and longer than the good majority of Americans every day for much less. The majority of them will only seek medical attention when something is very serious and sometimes not even then because they would rather live in this country working like slaves than go back to their country. I'll also give you a news flash that there are a majority of illegals who do pay taxes since they use someone else's social security number and those taxes are collected and 9 times out of 10 the owner doesn't realize they could be claiming more so the government doesn't have to refund that in a tax refund.

Really getting sick of people acting like a few thousand kids are going to bring this country to it's knees.

I'm sick of the Sins Of Our Fathers crap....

A few 1000? lol, wow....

 

[Kelly]

I think the people marching in and blocking the buses, carrying fire arms etc.... is stupid. It does not help this situation AT ALL.

As long as the 2008 law stands as is, these children have the right to go before a judge. They have the right to what OUR LAWS STATE THAT THEY HAVE.

The almost 4 billion being asked for, and it will probably be 4 billion before the end of this week, it seems to change weekly.....should go to hiring MORE JUDGES, to expedite these cases QUICKLY. If the child is with a parent, or it is an adult, THAT is a whole different story and they need to be sent back. That is OUR LAW....it is not a BS excuse, it is the law. I understand that at this point, because they were allowed into the country you can't just say....oh, turn back around and walk back. I understand that...some of that 4 billion needs to be used to transport these people back to their countries in a humane manner. Get them medical help where needed, get the kiddos immunized, etc...but make plans to transport them back. Those unaccompanied children according to the 2008 law, should go before a judge and their case heard. Do this quickly...

Send National Guard to the border NOW....as a strong showing that THIS HAS TO STOP.

Push the DPS and Border Patrol forward TO ACTUALLY POLICE the BORDER, as of right now they are policing an area almost 50 miles INTO THE COUNTRY. Something President Obama didn't even know was happening....hmmmm. Well, he does now.

Use the 4 billion to hire and begin the training of more border patrol.

But do not sit there and watch another 30,000 come in over the next 2 months.....this is ridiculous.

 

[Persistence]

You know, I think people need to either change their tune, or give the Statue of Liberty back to France.

Tens of thousands of Guatemalan kids. Oh no. Maybe America needs to deal with a real refugee crisis to get some perspective. Go talk to Lebanon.

It's amazing what America can find the time, money and energy for (wars waged in a different hemisphere), but then can't manage a stadium's worth of kids.

Do you want American experience to mirror those of developing or third world nations afflicted by refugee and instability?

Do you like living in a country with a high standard of living? Do you want to keep it that way?

It is a shame at amount of poverty and instability that exists in the world...and we as a country can make a difference in providing leadership and aid through those regions (by trade policy, security alliances, advocating political and economic reform, private charity, specific immigration policy with region for skilled workers, negotiating treaties etc.)

Nonetheless, this country cannot handle a influx of all the suffering populations in the world. Providing assistance is one thing, but opening up your border is another thing entirely. Eroding the concept of a legal border leaves those one side unprotected and threatens their standard of living.

I agree a couple thousand unaccompanied children won't topple the US, but the entire country is not handling this burden uniformly.
I think its fair to acknowledge which certain states, communities will disproportionally handle the burden of this crisis. States and towns at the border will handle providing medical care, educating communities that are not providing tax resources...those communities will be most overwhelmed by influx of unaccompanied children. It shouldn't be surprised these communities are most outspoken in curtailing the influx of illegals in this country. As those communities become burdened, the illegal immigrants will then choose another community slightly further north.

It seems disingenuous when those left ideologues in Washington DC lecture those communities on the ground that have to manage the influx of illegal immigrants. This creates a conflict of interest for leadership to ignore a problem they don't directly have to deal with.

I think we should definitely follow the law that was passed, giving asylum to the kids...but I think the entire country should should bare burden uniformly..these kids shouldn't just be sent to Texas and south California...but distributed through other states in the country so people understand implications of the law that they passed. It doesn't make sense a federal law should be enforced by a handful of states due to proximity to the border.

Once the entire country shares in the burden of illegal immigration problem, there will be greater demand for universal solution. Right now, its one segment handling greater burden fighting against a unattached leadership in DC influenced by immigration lobby.