The Dark Knight Rises The Box Office Thread

[Reek]

both TDKR and Avengers will make a billion... I don't think Spidey will, but I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Jon Hex]

I'm just saying, if the shoe fits, you gotta wear it.

But like i said, this is a great time to be a comic fan. Who would a thunk we'd have 2 comic book movies that will gross over a billion at the box office?

Superhero fatigue... where are you?

Those are the posters i want to hear from now.
The fatigue preachers from last year.

2012 is a great year though. Avengers, Spidey and Batman in 1 summer.
Only worried about spidey, liked the trailers and hope it does OK.
Batman and obviously Avengers have nothing to worry about.

 

[FreeRadical]

I love numbers. http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhug...es-may-not-break-the-avengers-opening-record/

The opening record is unlikely to be beaten, but I read somewhere that TDKR only needs a third of the audience who watched TDK to beat TDK opening weekend.
The most important factor is legs, which made Avatar and Titanic (both films didn't have record breaking weekends) make over a billion. Inception made over $825 million without the presence of Heath Ledger, so he shouldn't be a factor of how well TDKR will do.

Seeing The Avengers record opening, this is going to be an interesting summer movie season...

 

[Oruku Saki]

TDKR won't break the 207 mil opening...that's a given. BUT if it's a great movie and not too depressing it should still make over 1bil easily. I hope it's not as down and gloomy as the last trailer makes it seem, cause that would def hurt box office

 

[DKDetective]

If as some have pointed out, the Avengers is destined to win because there are so many tickets that can be sold and 3d prices are higher, what about the fact that many of those tickets were children's price? I mean Forbes article holds that against TDKR. But at least here in Canada, the price of tickets for kids is a good bit cheaper. Won't the lack of children going to TDKR make up some of the 3D difference?

 

[Goku Goes Crazy]

That article doesn't seem to take IMAX tickets into account. Aren't those just as pricey as 3D tickets, and won't those boost the films box office, the same way 3D did for The avengers?

 

[J.Howlett]

If as some have pointed out, the Avengers is destined to win because there are so many tickets that can be sold and 3d prices are higher, what about the fact that many of those tickets were children's price? I mean Forbes article holds that against TDKR. But at least here in Canada, the price of tickets for kids is a good bit cheaper. Won't the lack of children going to TDKR make up some of the 3D difference?

Nope. Still won't work.

 

[Sith Scotti]

So Forbes thinks Avengers will opening weekend but Bats will have a higher final gross . So Avengers is Bane . Batman suffers an early defeat and rises in the end to defeat Ave..er I mean Bane in the end . Interesting .

 

[J.Howlett]

That article doesn't seem to take IMAX tickets into account. Aren't those just as pricey as 3D tickets, and won't those boost the films box office, the same way 3D did for The avengers?

They're not as high as 3D. Plus, there aren't that many IMAX screens. 300 plus IMAX screens vs 3000 3D screens.

See the math?

 

[Oruku Saki]

We'll see how Forbes theory holds after 2nd weekend for Avengers, it will have already crossed 700mil by friday, so even if it only makes 100mil 2nd weekend it will already be 800mil+ after 2nd weekend.

 

[Goku Goes Crazy]

They're not as high as 3D. Plus, there aren't that many IMAX screens. 300 plus IMAX screens vs 3000 3D screens.

See the math?

I still have faith that DKR will break the record

 

[DKDetective]

We'll see how Forbes theory holds after 2nd weekend for Avengers, it will have already crossed 700mil by friday, so even if it only makes 100mil 2nd weekend it will already be 800mil+ after 2nd weekend.

You're talking worldwide numbers, Forbes is talking US Domestic numbers.

 

[lililatigresse]

tdkr won't break the 207 mil opening...that's a given. but if it's a great movie and not too depressing it should still make over 1bil easily. I hope it's not as down and gloomy as the last trailer makes it seem, cause that would def hurt box office

For you.

 

[J.Howlett]

I still have faith that DKR will break the record

Love ya, but not happening. The numbers don't support it.

They'd have to play Rises for 72 hours straight to be the record.

 

[samsnee]

So Forbes thinks Avengers will opening weekend but Bats will have a higher final gross . So Avengers is Bane . Batman suffers an early defeat and rises in the end to defeat Ave..er I mean Bane in the end . Interesting .

I guess that makes Amazing Spider-man Catwoman?

 

[Goku Goes Crazy]

Love ya, but not happening. The numbers don't support it.

They'd have to play Rises for 72 hours straight to be the record.

They must...they must.

How many screens is TDKR opening by the way? Isn't it like 6000?

Do u still think it can break the midnight record

 

[J.Howlett]

As of September 2011, there are 538 IMAX theatres in 48 different countries, with the US having 65% of them.

 

[Anita18]

So Forbes thinks Avengers will opening weekend but Bats will have a higher final gross . So Avengers is Bane . Batman suffers an early defeat and rises in the end to defeat Ave..er I mean Bane in the end . Interesting .

It'll be pretty interesting to see what Avengers' final multiplier will be. The only Marvel film with a multiplier greater than 3 is the first Iron Man. All the others are a fairly respectable 2.75 or so.

Avengers' WOM is out of this world, but a multiplier greater than 3.0 becomes harder to achieve once you burn off this amount of demand this quickly. The loss of 3D screens/gain of 2D screens in the coming weeks is also a wild card. My cousin saw Avengers in 3D only because it was the only option left that night, and he didn't want to go home empty-handed. He would have much preferred a 2D showing. If the 2D option is there, I fully believe casual moviegoers will take it, because it's cheaper and TA's world isn't as immersive as Avatar's.

All of Nolan's films have a multiplier greater than 3. Even TDK, which is really astounding considering it broke the OW record. (Heck, Inception came up with a 4.5+ multiplier.) I don't even think anyone foresaw a $500+ finish for TDK at the time, because a 3.0+ multiplier for such a large opener was unprecedented.

With WOM being so good for Avengers, yet with the 3D screens factored in, seeing what the final tally is will definitely be interesting. Some people are predicting $700 million finish, but that would only be achievable with TDK's multiplier. We'll just have to see...

 

[J.Howlett]

The Dark Knight opened in 4,366 theatres in the US back in '08.

 

[Goku Goes Crazy]

As of September 2011, there are 538 IMAX theatres in 48 different countries, with the US having 65% of them.

I think Michael Ulsan said it's opening in 6000 theaters.

 

[lililatigresse]

They must...they must.

How many screens is TDKR opening by the way? Isn't it like 6000?

Do u still think it can break the midnight record

I read somewhere something more like 4500.

 

[Anita18]

They must...they must.

How many screens is TDKR opening by the way? Isn't it like 6000?

Do u still think it can break the midnight record

I'd hope they'd have more screens than that. TDK had 9,000 screens, while SM3 had 11,000 screens, even though TDK was released in more theaters (the most at the time). Avengers I think broke the widest theater release record, as well as the most screens record, although I can't find the exact number right now.

Someone pointed out that TDKR could make up the lack of 3D by posting a ginormous midnight number (say, $30-$35 million), so all hope isn't lost.

 

[J.Howlett]

It'll be pretty interesting to see what Avengers' final multiplier will be. The only Marvel film with a multiplier greater than 3 is the first Iron Man. All the others are a fairly respectable 2.75 or so.

Avengers' WOM is out of this world, but a multiplier greater than 3.0 becomes harder to achieve once you burn off this amount of demand this quickly. The loss of 3D screens/gain of 2D screens in the coming weeks is also a wild card. My cousin saw Avengers in 3D only because it was the only option left that night, and he didn't want to go home empty-handed. He would have much preferred a 2D showing. If the 2D option is there, I fully believe casual moviegoers will take it, because it's cheaper and TA's world isn't as immersive as Avatar's.

All of Nolan's films have a multiplier greater than 3. Even TDK, which is really astounding considering it broke the OW record. (Heck, Inception came up with a 4.5+ multiplier.) I don't even think anyone foresaw a $500+ finish for TDK at the time, because a 3.0+ multiplier for such a large opener was unprecedented.

With WOM being so good for Avengers, yet with the 3D screens factored in, seeing what the final tally is will definitely be interesting. Some people are predicting $700 million finish, but that would only be achievable with TDK's multiplier. We'll just have to see...

It just kind of feels that everyone who wanted to see Avengers this weekend saw it. I don't see 700 domestically. Even if the competition is bad, May's always a crowded month, meaning no matter what, it'll lose screens. I mean, it's losing IMAX to Dark Shadows this weekend.

 

[Dragon_316ca]

As of September 2011, there are 538 IMAX theatres in 48 different countries, with the US having 65% of them.

Correction: 634 as of today.

 

[J.Howlett]

I'd hope they'd have more screens than that. TDK had 9,000 screens, while SM3 had 11,000 screens, even though TDK was released in more theaters (the most at the time). Avengers I think broke the widest theater release record, as well as the most screens record, although I can't find the exact number right now.

Someone pointed out that TDKR could make up the lack of 3D by posting a ginormous midnight number (say, $30-$35 million), so all hope isn't lost.

If Rises had a midnight equal to Deathly Hallows Part 2 or more and had a 100 million dollar Friday(counting midnights)....it could happen.