The Chicken Or The Egg

[DV8]

I'm gonna have to go w/ egg . . . dinosaurs hatched from eggs, and apparently the dinos evolved into birds, so the real question of the day should be: what came first the dinosaur or the egg? *scratches chin*

 

[DV8]

btw, whoever wins this poll will get the DV8 endorsement and proceed to be spread as fact that IT came first

 

[Carcharodon]

I'm gonna have to go w/ egg . . . dinosaurs hatched from eggs, and apparently the dinos evolved into birds, so the real question of the day should be: what came first the dinosaur or the egg? *scratches chin*

That depends. As Chaseter pointed out, not all dinosaurs may have laid eggs.

 

[Argyle of Sock]

Egg FTW! t:

 

[DV8]

That depends. As Chaseter pointed out, not all dinosaurs may have laid eggs.

however, given the liklihood that most did, wouldn't you think that would be the case? that a chicken evolved from an egg-laying dinosaur at some point?

and if not, do you feel that the first organism evolved from a lower lifeform, to lay an egg (basically do you still stand behind the notion that the creature to lay the egg must have come first)?

 

[Carcharodon]

however, given the liklihood that most did, wouldn't you think that would be the case? that a chicken evolved from an egg-laying dinosaur at some point?

and if not, do you feel that the first organism evolved from a lower lifeform, to lay an egg (basically do you still stand behind the notion that the creature to lay the egg must have come first)?

I take issue with your vocabulary, but yeah. I'd agree with that, again from a literalist perspective on the question.

 

[bullets]

The egg came first

That 's what she said !!

 

[StorminNorman]

I honestly dont know how anyone could think a Chicken came before an Egg.

I mean - come on - where did the Chicken come from? Did all of a sudden *POOF!* instant birdie?

 

[Carcharodon]

I honestly dont know how anyone could think a Chicken came before an Egg.

I mean - come on - where did the Chicken come from? Did all of a sudden *POOF!* instant birdie?

I selected chicken because I generally think of the question in not-quote-so-literal terms. I like to take it back to the concept of the first organism to appear on earth.

By the way: yeah, Creationists are likely going to select the option of the chicken coming first.

 

[StorminNorman]

I selected chicken because I generally think of the question in not-quote-so-literal terms. I like to take it back to the concept of the first organism to appear on earth.

By the way: yeah, Creationists are likely going to select the option of the chicken coming first.

Strict Creationists are also idiots

 

[chaseter]

I honestly dont know how anyone could think a Chicken came before an Egg.

I mean - come on - where did the Chicken come from? Did all of a sudden *POOF!* instant birdie?

I made stated a good theory on the previous page.

Plus, if you want to get technical, nearly all life comes from eggs(excluding those that reproduce asexually...but what fun is that )

 

[ang_hulk]

this is not a question fo science but a question of english
what is it your asking? where di the modern day chicken come from? if so its the egg,that last step in domestic breeding from the female before it.

If you are aksing what comes first in said blood line than its the chicken.

fin.

 

[Danalys]

fish lay eggs and they'd be before dinosaurs. and insects would be before fish.

also you could go into some sort of the chicken is the egg idea.

 

[November Rain]

obviously the egg.

 

[Albiceleste]

The egg

 

[SuBe]

There were eggs before chickens.

I don't know when so-called, "Pre-Chickens," evolved into modern chickens. I never claimed to.

I don't know what, "Pre-Chickens," were called, and I'm unfaimilar with their overall classification.

All of those questions were completely asinine and had nothing to do with the actual process of evolution. Way to not ask a single relevant question.

In any case, the main point is that evolution consists of small, accumulated changes over time. A bird didn't hatch and then change into another species of animal over the course of its life, as you implied.

I called that particular implication out because of the fact that it's a commonly held misconception and I'm goddamn sick and tired of people perpetuating false notions when it comes to evolution and science at large.

*DEEP BREATH*

It's not your fault, though.

I 100% understand Evolution. I didn't Imply that Bird Laid Egg, Hatched into Chicken. I know that Evolution is Generations of minor changes that lead into large changes over many, many years.

Don't put words into my mouth. I never said that it poofed into another species. Before Humans there were Cromagnon Man. My Question is what is the Chicken's version of Cromagnon Man?

I'm not the Tard you are making me sound like. I understand Evolution. I've written Many Papers on the Subject. But, all I'm saying is The Egg was there before Modern Chicken.

Jeez! Get off your high horse and looking for fights to pick, bucko.

 

[SuBe]

Chickens used to be capable of (somewhat) extended periods of flight.

Chicken's can fly genius, though they often have they re wings clipped.

I thought you were supposed to be an expert in Chickens like you are leading on to be.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

a team made up of a geneticist, philosopher and chicken farmer claim to have found an answer. It was the egg.
Put simply, the reason is down to the fact that genetic material does not change during an animal's life.
Therefore the first bird that evolved into what we would call a chicken, probably in prehistoric times, must have first existed as an embryo inside an egg.
Professor John Brookfield, a specialist in evolutionary genetics at the University of Nottingham, told the UK Press Association the pecking order was clear.
The living organism inside the eggshell would have had the same DNA as the chicken it would develop into, he said.
"Therefore, the first living thing which we could say unequivocally was a member of the species would be this first egg," he added. "So, I would conclude that the egg came first."
The same conclusion was reached by his fellow "eggsperts" Professor David Papineau, of King's College London, and poultry farmer Charles Bourns.
Mr Papineau, an expert in the philosophy of science, agreed that the first chicken came from an egg and that proves there were chicken eggs before chickens.
He told PA people were mistaken if they argued that the mutant egg belonged to the "non-chicken" bird parents.
"I would argue it is a chicken egg if it has a chicken in it," he said.
"If a kangaroo laid an egg from which an ostrich hatched, that would surely be an ostrich egg, not a kangaroo egg."......

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/05/26/chicken.egg/

well, it seem the 'eggsperts' agree
(though, they lose some creditability for being called eggsperts lol)

it was the EGG

 

[oakzap425]

I'm not an atheist. Keep jumping to conclusions, though...it makes you look smarter, and more worldly!

That actually made you look like an idiot, because that wasn't even directed to you. I quoted it because of the God reference, meaning one of the crazy Atheists on the Hype is going to find their way in here. And it was a joke.

But, your Apology is accepted.

 

[DV8]

I take issue with your vocabulary, but yeah. I'd agree with that, again from a literalist perspective on the question.

yeah, I guess that sounded a little confusing . . . but just to be clear, you're a 'chicken' supporter, right?

 

[SuBe]

How about this one:

How many Angels can dance on the Head of a Pin?

 

[Captain_BluTac]

How about this one:

How many Angels can dance on the Head of a Pin?

It depends on

1. how big the pin head is
2. how big the angels are

so ask this question again, but with the specs for the angels and pins please.

 

[DV8]

How about this one:

How many Angels can dance on the Head of a Pin?

that's easy . . . Angels don't dance; they have no rhythm