The Cloverfield Paradox

[flickchick85]

You watched it right when it released last night too?

Yep.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Broseph44]

Loved this easter egg/reference

 

[Arachnerd]

Just finished watching this.

*sigh* Add me to the ones who were disappointed with it. I was sorta enjoying it throughout most of it, though I had a lot of questions, which none, not even one, were answered. The movie expects you to just go along with it, no questions asked, and to me that's not good storytelling. There's leaving some mystery open, and then there's this movie.

The husband plot was freaking pointless. And that last shot. That last shot, is a giant "f*** you" to people who were expecting a bigger connection with the first one because of the trailer. For as little connection that 10 Cloverfield Lane had to the original, at least it was a good movie in its own right. This...has good performances and cinematography, but the writing is absolutely atrocious and most of the decisions made are perplexing as heck imo.

Just...ugh. Hoping Overlord is a lot better than this.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Just finished watching this.

*sigh* Add me to the ones who were disappointed with it. I was sorta enjoying it throughout most of it, though I had a lot of questions, which none, not even one, were answered. The movie expects you to just go along with it, no questions asked, and to me that's not good storytelling. There's leaving some mystery open, and then there's this movie.

The husband plot was freaking pointless. And that last shot. That last shot, is a giant "f*** you" to people who were expecting a bigger connection with the first one because of the trailer. For as little connection that 10 Cloverfield Lane had to the original, at least it was a good movie in its own right. This...has good performances and cinematography, but the writing is absolutely atrocious and most of the decisions made are perplexing as heck imo.

Just...ugh. Hoping Overlord is a lot better than this.

I probably should feel this way and I am very disappointed with the film as a whole, but god damn was I happy with those last few seconds. Everything else, yeah I agree.

 

[Arachnerd]

Spoiler

Well, you probably won't be seeing more Clover in the future, so.

 

[Kane52630]

Well this is an anthology series... they were never meant to be directly connected to each other.

 

[Arachnerd]

Well this is an anthology series... they were never meant to be directly connected to each other.

Something the Cloverfield Paradox trailer should have made quite clear instead of misleading people.

I already assumed the Cloverfield franchise was going with an anthology approach, but they dropped the ball with the trailer and the last shot in the movie.

 

[squeekness]

Well this is an anthology series... they were never meant to be directly connected to each other.

I never got that. I just figured Cloverfield lane was a time jump or something.

 

[Sawyer]

It was an alright Netflix watch, but I can see why it had trouble getting released.

 

[TheVileOne]

Here's what I still don't get:

Spoiler

How does a particle accelerator create a monster when everything around the original Cloverfield suggests the opposite?

 

[redhawk23]

There's a cast off line about the particle accellerator effecting the past present and future.

The real answer is, the connections are barely there, what is there is forced and this movie is bad.

 

[Arachnerd]

Here's what I still don't get:

Spoiler

How does a particle accelerator create a monster when everything around the original Cloverfield suggests the opposite?

Spoiler

I think, taking Donal Logue's character dialogue in the beginning into account, that the monster at the end of Paradox (which is clearly not the Clover baby from the original movie given its gargantuan size) came from another dimension to wreck avok due to the station's accelerator.

It's all very ambiguous yet convoluted at the same time. It's amazing, and not in a good way.

 

[Kanon]

So, where is the paradox?

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Spoiler

Well, you probably won't be seeing more Clover in the future, so.

Now see that would piss me off.

The sooner JJ and co. Realize that people want the actual sequel over all these anthology movies, the better.

Not to say they can’t do the anthology stuff, but it’s clear what a lot of people want.

 

[Arachnerd]

The best course of action would be a sequel to Paradox. Baby Clover is dead in the original timeline so there's not a whole lot they could do there, but with Paradox's timeline having more than one Clover (and adult ones at that) causing cataclysm left and right, it would bring far more interesting possibilities.

That being said, 100% sure they won't continue it.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I don’t think they’ll continue the paradox stuff but I also don’t think they’ll never do anything related to the New York incident again.

I mean, they were still using footage from the original film in the super bowl commercial, clearly they know how to get people to watch these movies. We won’t get a direct sequel to cloverfield, but they definitely won’t stop trying to milk the good will from the 08 film.

Just wish they would actually produce scripts that were meant to be cloverfield films from the start as opposed to just slapping the name on it in post production/reshoots.

 

[Micromind]

So, where is the paradox?

Paradox is there is no paradox.

 

[TheVileOne]

The stuff with the husband was very tacked on and looks like it was done during reshoots. Couldn't they have gotten a better voice-actor for Joe? His voice sounded like they never dubbed over a PA or temp voice guy.

The trailer made it sound like this film was a prequel and the reason why the monster is in the first film, yet based off the movie, that doesn't seem to be the case at all.

I think what I like about Cloverfield is the ARG stuff more than actual movies themselves, but I did think 10 Cloverfield Lane was a pretty good film.

The presence of Cloverfield Paradox doesn't answer any questions. It only raises more. In the original Cloverfield, all the ARG material suggests underwater exploration or drilling was likely what discovered or unleashed the Cloverfield monster, which was described by JJ Abrams as a baby that was angry, agitated and grumpy.

Not sure what to make of this monster in the new film. As Roose Bolton pointed out, this monster is bigger and appears to be some type of adult. I think it would've been better without all that and only paying minor lip service to the Cloverfield stuff.

So...did they somehow pluck the monster from the first movie and drop it into the main dimension of the one from the third?

 

[The Apocalypse]

Probably the best explanation. I still think the whole other dimension stuff is tacky. They couldn't have come up with something better?

 

[TheVileOne]

Did Donal Logue's character actually say that about it would mess with the past, present, and future? I don't remember that line.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

Yeah all I seem to remember was talking about releasing monsters and demons.
Im just counting all three films as separate dimensions. Clover had somewhat of an explanation through the viral stuff of the first film, so these new ones either transported in from somewhere else or were awakened, but there’s no way this fits in with the incident from the first film.

 

[Spider-Fan]

After having seen this, I didn't hate it. Weakest movie in the series, yes. But, I thought it was decent. Yes, the Cloverfield elements feel tacked on, particularly the ending and the husband's plot. The last minute was laughably tacked on, but at least it didn't run like 5 minutes like in 10 Cloverfield Lane. But the stuff with the crew was pretty good at various points.

As for continuing the series, I actually think making the anthology is easier after this one.

Spoiler

With the Paradox, they explain all sorts of creatures and demons can effect other dimensions, past, present, and future. Ultimately, it leaves it open for them to tell what ever type of story they want to tell. You don't have to continue where this one left off, as Cloverfield kind of does that.

Overall, while the film itself is just decent, I think it leaves the franchise with a lot of options for future exploration.

 

[PhasedPlasma101]

God Damn this movie sucked. It was so uninteresting.

Basically a cobbled together Direct to Video movie that takes elements from Interstellar, Alien, Star Trek and a bevy of other properties and uses those elements without much impact.

I hate that this has ANY connection to Cloverfield. The commercial made it seem like we would be in NYC during the first attack from a diff POV but nope, that was like 2 minutes.

I'm not hyperbolic about film, I realized how many I've seen of various quality but this was seriously one of the worst movies I've seen lately besides The Open House, also a Netflix crappy purchase.

I'm surprised there was even as much praise for this movie in this thread as there was. This was a colossal turd that marred the mystique of the original monster without even giving us any bona fide explanations.

The multiverse, confronting dimensions angle was ****ing lame in regards to the 2008 film. This movie is a D- and that's being generous. Pretty much a fail all the way around

 

[Spider-Fan]

To this point, both 10 Cloverfield Lane and Cloverfield Paradox feel like the Cloverfield aspect was tacked on. The difference being the movie surrounding 10 Cloverfield Lane was much better. I think Paradox had some good ideas, but the execution was standard.