The Cloverfield Paradox

(Shrugs)

I really enjoyed it. It did feel like a cross between Event Horizon and Alien, but whatever. I liked it better than the last four Alien movies or other recent Alien wannabe movies (Life). The cast in particular was great and it had some genuinely freaky moments (mostly the eye stuff).
 
(Shrugs)

I really enjoyed it. It did feel like a cross between Event Horizon and Alien, but whatever. I liked it better than the last four Alien movies or other recent Alien wannabe movies (Life). The cast in particular was great and it had some genuinely freaky moments (mostly the eye stuff).

Agreed! :eek:
 
Just gotta say, I watched this after the superbowl and was not pleased with this one. Found it to be laughable in parts, sloppy, in fact I wish I would have quit halfway through it. Cast wasn't convincing, in fact the casting choices felt questionable to begin with.
 
I thought the marketing was great. I was reading online about how Cloverfield 4 was coming out next year and I was like, “Did they even make a 3rd one yet?” Then BOOM - middle of the game we see a pretty fun trailer that says, “Coming very soon.”

Smart. I dug it.

But the movie... yeesh. Pretty rough. I thought it started out pretty rough with the painful exposition dump by Donal Logue [BLACKOUT]“They could rip the fabric of space time and let in monsters and demons in the past and future.” Woof, that’s such a desperate attempt to tie the franchises together.[/BLACKOUT] and then the stuff that kept happening just made no sense!

[BLACKOUT]The eye stuff was freaky but what caused it? And who was Volkov talking to? And why did the ship suck Mundy’s arm into it? And why in god’s name could the arm move on its own and write? [/BLACKOUT]

Just absurd moments in what could have been a really taut thriller in space.
 
Count me amongst the disappointed too.

I unapologetically love the original Cloverfield. No hyperbole, it remains the most intense viewing experience I’ve had in a movie theater. When it was apparent that 10 Cloverfield Lane was not a sequel, but that this was going to be an anthology movie series, I was quite pleased that they were leaving it alone. Because, honestly, how do you follow that up? Instead, I thought it was a great idea for these movies to be unrelated but to be singular unforgettable movie experiences, along with exciting mystery box hype, worthy of the Cloverfield name. To that end, I thoroughly enjoyed 10 Cloverfield Lane as well.

And now this. I was really looking forward to “God Particle” because I thought the concept would fit very nicely as the third Cloverfield entry. When it was announced during the super bowl that it was to be immediately available on Netflix, I was less excited and more puzzled. Didn’t the first two movies perform pretty darn well at the box office in relation to their budgets? Were they not received well by critics? But hey, all a part of the Cloverfield mystique, right? Well........

I think it’s pretty safe to say that this movie would have bombed at the box office after a decent opening weekend. No way would it have had the staying power that 10 Cloverfield Lane did. So this was likely the best course for all involved, even Netflix. So why was it a disappointment? For me, I think it’s because now they are trying to awkwardly shoehorn in connections to the previous movies, but it’s obvious that these scripts had nothing to do with them in the first place. So instead, just focus on making them good. Most of the blame has to fall on Julius Onah. If we were ready to credit Dan Trachtenberg over Abrams (rightfully so) for Lane’s success, then the failure has to mostly do with Onah. There have been so many sci-fi horror movies set in space, it’s as though he simultaneously never studied the great ones while stealing cliches from the bad ones.

Even the ending, which was supposed to be the crown jewel moment, was a dud for me personally. How much better would it have been to see a shot from their point of view, going through the clouds, and seeing what was underneath. Now THAT would have been something. I guess they had to save the CGI budget for a moving arm. And if that was a connection to the original, it was tenuous at best when you consider all of the inconsistencies. But I guess that was the point of the time-bending aspect. I dunno, just totally underwhelming.

I’m not ready to give up on the franchise yet, but I do hope Overlord plays to its own strengths and doesn’t bog itself down with universe building. If it’s a great movie, Cloverfield as a brand will be fine. Thanks for reading.
 
I thought it was pretty fun actually :shrug:. Pretty schlocky and it was really obvious what scenes were tacked on to make the Cloverfield connection but still it was enjoyable. That marketing stunt tho :thumbsup:. Can't see anyone replicating that anytime soon.
 
I, too, thought there were alot of shots inspired by the Alien movies.
 
This movie had great ideas and a lot of the ingredients to be a really good sci-fi film but they just broke every tool they had at their disposal. None of it works. The characters don't work, every weird thing that happens doesn't make sense, the connection to Cloverfield is laughable. This isn't a good film.
 
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This isn't terrible to me or even really bad, but it is really uneven.

None of the characters are that interesting. Stuff happens that don't make any sense. Chris O Dowd and the humor is not great. It was really predictable yet kinda confusing. The Earth bound stuff wasn't that interesting

And yeah the Cloverfield connection is really dumb. I liked 10 Cloverfield Lane until the ending, but this was even worse.

It isn't terrible, but I'm not gonna watch this again. They need to stop this Cloverfield anthology thing. The IDEA is great, but as I said to me it hindered 10 Cloverfield and it didn't help this at all.

EDIT: Also we really didn't need the explain the origins of the Cloverfield universe. That was just dumb
 
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They're trying to make original content and then linking it to something already established to make people go see it. This is a sign of the times. They are afraid of original films. If anything isn't based on something else, they think it won't work.
 
They're trying to make original content and then linking it to something already established to make people go see it. This is a sign of the times. They are afraid of original films. If anything isn't based on something else, they think it won't work.

Exactly

Which I get for this film since it's budgeted for $45 mill, but 10 Cloverfield Lane cost like $15 mill and I'm sure most of that is because of the ending.
They could've made that for like less than $10 mill and I'm sure it would've been at least a decent sized success...but then again it wouldn't make $110 mill

Shame
 
What I don't understand is why don't they make a sequel to the first Cloverfield. That's what everybody wants.
 
Finally saw this. This was...a fine B movie. It was silly as Hell in a lot of parts and it definitely felt like a direct to video movie. Also, the last scene did nothing for me, I wasn't shocked, surprised or angered by it, i was just sort of like "huh. well, ok. Cool, I guess."

I don't think its BAD its just...a silly B movie. Something you can watch drunk with your friends. The first 30 minutes had me genuinely intrigued and then it just devolved into a nonsensical lesser, cheaper version of Alien.
 
As a film it looked good but really didn't work that well. Thought it was meh.

But once you understand what this has done, it will be the most important film in the shared multiverse.

The premise is that since the universe beganevery time a sub atomic particle could go in one place or another they both happened causing two seperate universes. This went on up till the cloverfield paradox film. Now this led to some universes being very similar and some being vastly different. The experiment in paradox ripped holes in these universes stretching forward and backwards in time. So the monster from the cloverfield universe lived on it's version of earth but was shifted to a different earth etc...

Now this opens up possibilities for netflix to make almost any script fit into the cloverfield multiverse. You want us marines fighting zombie nazis, sure it was one group from one universe shifted to another.You want a knight to seemingly be transported to a futuristic world full of little grey aliens why not?

Whether the films or franchise will be any good i dunno. They might even make it a tv show similar to twilight zone, with loads of weird tales. Whether they will plan to have it all tie up and have a solution we'll have to wait and see. But it is a clever move that i didn't see coming. A lot of old scripts will probably be tweaked to fit.
 
"Life" was so much better than this...

Very much agreed. Was thinking that the whole time I watched this.

Kinda funny I actually had a nightmare about Calvin from Life this week.

What I don't understand is why don't they make a sequel to the first Cloverfield. That's what everybody wants.

Yeah or at least what could've been interesting, and they kinda teased this in interviews of showing that night through the perspective of other people. Or they could've just used it as a jumping off point for the next "Cloverfield movies.

-Cloverfield= about the actual invasion
-10 Cloverfield Lane= 3 people are trapped in a bunker after Clover's attack
-Cloverfield Paradox= ...idk something


But just use Clover's attack that night as a jumping off point for different perspectives of that night. You can do something from the military's perspective, something from another civilians perspectives, and on and on. That could've been really cool.

Now I hear the next Cloverfield movie takes place during WWII and that's just :loco:
 
Really? I though Life was terrible.

Eh I liked it. It had great acting, beautiful shots, a great score, a really creepy and intriguing alien villain, some very well-directed creepy scenes. I very much enjoyed the intense experience.
 
I think Life had similar problems as this movie did where it had a great set up, good actors but it fell flat on the story.
 
So in essence this movie was created as an excuse to make a bunch of rando Cloverfield related genre pieces.
 
What I don't understand is why don't they make a sequel to the first Cloverfield. That's what everybody wants.

Well, in retrospect, what is else is there to tell?

Now, don't get me wrong. I'd love an actual continuation to the original as much as everyone else, but thinking realistically, where could they go with it? The monster was killed in Operation Hammerdown (confirmed by JJ in an interview back in 2008), so unless they went the direction of the Kishin manga where there were numerous Clover eggs laying dormant in the depths of the ocean, I can't picture any other scenario for a sequel.

That being said, I hope we haven't seen the last of the Clover monsters, despite Cloverfield Paradox and how unlikely it seems right now.
 
Well, in retrospect, what is else is there to tell?

Now, don't get me wrong. I'd love an actual continuation to the original as much as everyone else, but thinking realistically, where could they go with it? The monster was killed in Operation Hammerdown (confirmed by JJ in an interview back in 2008), so unless they went the direction of the Kishin manga where there were numerous Clover eggs laying dormant in the depths of the ocean, I can't picture any other scenario for a sequel.

That being said, I hope we haven't seen the last of the Clover monsters, despite Cloverfield Paradox and how unlikely it seems right now.

not sequel, but companion pieces/side by side stories...I don't know what to call them, could've worked.

I mean Clover's mom and dad couldve appeared. [BLACKOUT]I mean one of the appeared in Cloverfield Paradox[/BLACKOUT]
 

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