Iron Man 2 The Critics review Iron Man 2

[Naite22]

Watch "Snakes on a plane" and then come back to me about Sam Jackson. He should have gotten an Oscar of it!


But seriously now, Sam is awesome!

I did.. and even though I get the sarcasm and humor/style of that flick, I truely find Sam irritating. But I know he's loved by many though.

 

[Mr. Earle]

I was joking. Whenever someone says something bad about some actor, others respond with "watch ____ and get back to me. He/she is great in it". Example: Diss Chris Evans and you'll be told to watch "Sunshine".

So i was jokingly suggesting that you watch one of the worst movies ever made.


But seriously, i love Sam mother****ing Jackson.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

I think the performances alone will guarantee this movie a 'fresh' certification from RT.
75%-85% sounds plausible imo.

Is the sequel able to pack the dramatic punch of the original?
Is the flow between scenes and acts as effortless as it was in the first movie?

I'm confident that the sequel is going to be good. But as good as the original? Or even better? I kinda find it hard to believe but I guess time will tell.

At the moment there are some things I'm not completely happy with.

1)The chemistry between Downey jr. and Howard was superb imo. Are Downey jr. and Cheadle able to re-create that chemistry?


2) The drones. Sigh. I think they have "boring" written all over them.

3) The diminished(?) running time combined with the pressure of making a more action-packed movie. This could prove to be problematic. I hope IM2 doesn't degenerate into your typical soulless run-of-the-mill wham-bam-action-extravaganza. I mean the movie would probably still be rather entertaining but it would be a huge step down after the perfectly balanced IM1.

Pretty much agree with everything, especially the drones part.

 

[UnkillableMick]

I was joking. Whenever someone says something bad about some actor, others respond with "watch ____ and get back to me. He/she is great in it". Example: Diss Chris Evans and you'll be told to watch "Sunshine".

So i was jokingly suggesting that you watch one of the worst movies ever made.


But seriously, i love Sam mother****ing Jackson.

Whut? SoaP is awesome, don't even go there!

 

[Mr. Earle]

Its so bad that its good! And of course there is that famous line towards the end that was an internet phenomenon before the movie was even released.

 

[kedrell]

Thank god!
Yeah i know, but in the kid and drone tv spot IM blows that drone with just one shot. Maybe its a concentrated shot to end it quickly before the kid gets hurt.

We don't know it was destroyed. It was just knocked offscreen for all we know.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Dude, IM blew off half its chest and all of its right shoulder! Here, watch it again:
[YT]sfCG8fMy9Sw&playnext_from=TL&videos=Wx4w69s3fZw[/YT]

 

[kedrell]

Yes, I realize that but it still doesn't mean it's out of commission. These have no one inside and could still be combat effective even with large amounts of damage. Just a guess on my part.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

I think Hammer is going to come off as a very weak baddy,and that Whiplash when he isn't fighting is going to suck being a cookie cutter baddie just like Hammer for the most part,lastly I sense that Hammer is going to be more of the butt end of a joke rather than a true foe pulling strings. I sort of want this movie to fail critically given how I've been feeling different about this movie a lot for weeks,it's just that one part of me that thinks it deserves to fail with how the direction seems mainly,while on the other hand the fanboy side...yeah. I find it very surprising and kind of strange that I'm more optimistic about Green Lantern than this movie even though it's still filming and even though I'm not a very big fan of his actually. The only story element out of Iron Man 2 that I'm feeling as something new,is the arc reactor problem,other than that everything sounds yawn inducing to me.



Copied someone's thing-In Iron Man Stane Obediah copied Stark's Ironman mark despite being different
Two bad guys working together-It's been done before in Iron Man,Raza and Stane Obediah worked together
I want your tech-In Iron Man,Raza and Stane wanted Stark's tech
Iron Man as a celeb-The celeb thing happened in Watchmen even though it was Ozy,the idea sucked then and the idea sucks now
Love triangle with Stark etc.-Yawn,like that's original
Stark being sober while having beef with James-Sounds boring

Those storylines are completely unacceptable for an IRON MAN sequel,it's like they thought they didn't have much Iron Man comics to work with,so they offered up generic storylines that pretty much anyone could have thought of. I don't want Robert's friend Justin to ever write a comic book movie again. Hell with Whiplash and Justin being baddies,the movie could have had them going against Stark but fighting among themselves and arguing about a good approach to go up against Stark,have different opinions,but no.

 

[ashleyej21]

someone posted this on the IMDb board.

http://www0.epinions.com/review/Iron_Man_2/content_508878950020

 

[hatebox]

^ Interesting, though I never trust reviews from fans this early, there's always a sense of satisfaction at having seen it first that clouds judgement. Better than it being negative though!

 

[kedrell]

That's a pretty damn positive review, if it's legit.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Not sure what to think. Looking at his other reviews, he is a pretty lenient grader. Alice in Wonderland a 4 out of 5? Bleh.

 

[Figs]

Those storylines are completely unacceptable for an IRON MAN sequel,it's like they thought they didn't have much Iron Man comics to work with,so they offered up generic storylines that pretty much anyone could have thought of. I don't want Robert's friend Justin to ever write a comic book movie again. Hell with Whiplash and Justin being baddies,the movie could have had them going against Stark but fighting among themselves and arguing about a good approach to go up against Stark,have different opinions,but no.

Well we haven't seen the movie yet so they may turn out better than you think.

Also, to what's in bold, a huge amount of this film is taking story elements from Demon In a Bottle, Armor Wars and even some classic stories/story elements from the real early stuff in Tales of Suspense. I don't want to get too hyped for this like I did for Spider-Man 3 and X3 but so far it's looking pretty damn good.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

Well we haven't seen the movie yet so they may turn out better than you think.

Also, to what's in bold, a huge amount of this film is taking story elements from Demon In a Bottle, Armor Wars and even some classic stories/story elements from the real early stuff in Tales of Suspense. I don't want to get too hyped for this like I did for Spider-Man 3 and X3 but so far it's looking pretty damn good.

Eh,like they will do away enough with that good stuff in the movie. I think too much is being saved for Iron Man 3,if it happens,it may become Spiderman 3 ish if Iron Man 2 isn't Spiderman 3 bad. Hammer sounds like wasted potential,the crap storylines I mentioned sound very predictable,Stark is just going to keep drinking without being wasted going in Iron Man mode,and of course the Mandarin will have a weak-ass presence as well with no build up for him to be in the third movie. I want to see Stark drunk as hell because of all his problems fighting as Ironman,it would make for great drama.

 

[topdog1]

I sort of want this movie to fail critically given how I've been feeling different about this movie a lot for weeks,it's just that one part of me that thinks it deserves to fail with how the direction seems mainly,while on the other hand the fanboy side...yeah.

What I wonder is how many fans and critics are going to go in to the film with an open mind? A lot of people seem to have leanings that will unintentionally alter how they view the movie. SAAD's above posts are the perfect example of that from a fan's standpoint. While not going with the express intention to nitpick, this is the next best thing. Also, critics always tend to hate the big dog. Massive tent pole films always face tougher critiques because (even subconsciously) critics like to praise smaller films and bash the studio monsters. There are exceptions but that's the general trend. Iron Man had the underdog label in 2008 but it the big dog now. Jaded critics will not cut it any slack.

 

[Crowdome]

Spoiler

"Angered over how Stark's weapons from his pre-Iron Man days leveled his homeland, Vanko works on developing technology similar to Stark's Iron Man suit. After a successful test - with aid from Hammer and his company - Whiplash comes into play as an antagonist to Iron Man."
Wasn't it already confirmed that Vanko hates Stark over his father, Howard Stark, steals Vanko's father's Arc Reactor Tech from him and brands it as his own? This might prove the review to be a false...

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Okay I'm going to be optimistic and give it a 94% on Rotten Tomatoes, 1% higher than the first.

BTW, I liked the first one alot but I've always felt that it was an overpraised movie so I really won't be killing myself if the sequel is slightly worse.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Eh,like they will do away enough with that good stuff in the movie. I think too much is being saved for Iron Man 3,if it happens,it may become Spiderman 3 ish if Iron Man 2 isn't Spiderman 3 bad. Hammer sounds like wasted potential,the crap storylines I mentioned sound very predictable,Stark is just going to keep drinking without being wasted going in Iron Man mode,and of course the Mandarin will have a weak-ass presence as well with no build up for him to be in the third movie. I want to see Stark drunk as hell because of all his problems fighting as Ironman,it would make for great drama.

What is your problem with the direction of the movie? It's taking the logical steps forward in the story of Stark.

He has revealed himself to be Iron Man. He has become a global superstar. And people are coming out of the woodwork to get a piece of him. That is the RIGHT direction to go, undeniable.

You've got the rival weapons manufacturer wanting Stark out of the way and wanting his tech (Hammer)

You got the villain who feels personally wrong by the Stark family. A villain who sees himself as the good guy and the good guy as the bad guy.(Vanko)

Then you have the US government breathing down Starks neck about turning his tech over to them.

And also Stark's growing ego getting out of control.

All these things pose different problems to Tony. Could provide him with different inner conflicts.

Is keeping his tech all to himself the right thing to do? Should he turn it over to the "people"?

Is Vanko right? Is he the good guy?

Then you have to consider Rhodey's story. Loyalty to his best friend or loyalty to the military?

I mean, if you don't like the sound of that then what in gods name did you expect?

The only problem i can forsee being a possibility is it being overstuffed. But that shouldn't be a problem as long as the film is at least 2 hours long, which it will be.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Great points Ace. I agree.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

What is your problem with the direction of the movie? It's taking the logical steps forward in the story of Stark.

He has revealed himself to be Iron Man. He has become a global superstar. And people are coming out of the woodwork to get a piece of him. That is the RIGHT direction to go, undeniable.

You've got the rival weapons manufacturer wanting Stark out of the way and wanting his tech (Hammer)
Stane and Raza wanted his tech in Ironman.

You got the villain who feels personally wrong by the Stark family. A villain who sees himself as the good guy and the good guy as the bad guy.(Vanko)

Then you have the US government breathing down Starks neck about turning his tech over to them.
Stane and Raza wanted his tech from Ironman.

And also Stark's growing ego getting out of control.
How original.

All these things pose different problems to Tony. Could provide him with different inner conflicts.

Is keeping his tech all to himself the right thing to do? Should he turn it over to the "people"?

Is Vanko right? Is he the good guy?

Then you have to consider Rhodey's story. Loyalty to his best friend or loyalty to the military?
Oh like we haven't seen a loyalty issue before between two pals.

I mean, if you don't like the sound of that then what in gods name did you expect?

The only problem i can forsee being a possibility is it being overstuffed. But that shouldn't be a problem as long as the film is at least 2 hours long, which it will be.

Plots that aren't only dramatic,but exciting as well,not tired and old that we have seen countless times in movies and on tv. This is treading too much into funless and familiar territory. A year was almost spent on making this movie to keep stuff in perspective,and of course that celeb plot had to be done because of how Ironman ended.

 

[Raiden]

Plots that aren't only dramatic,but exciting as well,not tired and old that we have seen countless times in movies and on tv. This is treading too much into funless and familiar territory. A year was almost spent on making this movie to keep stuff in perspective,and of course that celeb plot had to be done because of how Ironman ended.

I don't think the plots in IM2 are things that we have seen "countless times" before; those plots are just natural development stemmed from what happened at the end of IM1. Stark confessed his secret identity and now must contend with not just the government but also Hammer, who wanted to steal his tech; Stark went over his head and became too indulged on alcohol and it gave him more problems; Stark must deal with individuals who'd target him sans armor like Valko because they have personal vandetta against him. We also get storylines of Stark's friend Rhodey, who must choose between his loyalty of his old friend or the military; Stark's growing feelings for Pepper, who will have a new femme fatale in Natasha/Black Widow to complicate his personal life, and so forth. Maybe some of those stories were used in other movies or TV shows, but then again you can make that argument against any movies, even TDK. IM2 has solid stories and I don't see the validity of your criticisms against it.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

I don't think the plots in IM2 are things that we have seen "countless times" before; those plots are just natural development stemmed from what happened at the end of IM1. Stark confessed his secret identity and now must contend with not just the government but also Hammer, who wanted to steal his tech; Stark went over his head and became too indulged on alcohol and it gave him more problems; Stark must deal with individuals who'd target him sans armor like Valko because they have personal vandetta against him. We also get storylines of Stark's friend Rhodey, who must choose between his loyalty of his old friend or the military; Stark's growing feelings for Pepper, who will have a new femme fatale in Natasha/Black Widow to complicate his personal life, and so forth. Maybe some of those stories were used in other movies or TV shows, but then again you can make that argument against any movies, even TDK. IM2 has solid stories and I don't see the validity of your criticisms against it.

Love triangle,that's so been to death,it was done in Spiderman 3. THERE ARE BETTER STORIES. I don't want another comic book movie that is as boring and redundant as Superman Returns and Hulk minus the good action.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

You need to realize, hollywood is built on cliche story lines. There is very few totally original story lines.

It all depends on the execution.

And all the things i listed, whilst some of them are not original, are natural progressions to the Tony Stark story.

What, do you want his character changed just because it is unoriginal? You want the character of Rhodey changed just because it is unoriginal?

Tony Stark has had enemies coming after his tech for his entire comic history. But no that's unoriginal so let's just change that right? Throw all that history out of the window yea?

Rhodey being split between his loyalty for Tony and the military is a MAJOR part of his character. It is how he became War Machine. But no that's unoriginal! Let's fundamentally change the characters origin!

Seriously, you chatting ****.

Tell us what you would expect of Iron Man 2 then.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

^ dude it looks like you're just taking any plot point from iron man 2 and saying its been done to death... can you name five other instances in which those plot points have been used?