Iron Man 2 The Critics review Iron Man 2

[Khemik@L]

Iron Man 2: World’s first review

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2010/04/27/iron-man-2-world-s-first-review-mind-numbingly-dull-chaotic-and-unwatchable-115875-22214759/

Please the same guy gave this review for tropic thunder
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[FaT_tONle]

I don't like dismissing a review because "So in so liked this (terrible movie)"... what are we in third grade? Maybe the reviewer is an idiot... maybe he isn't. Can't just nullify his opinion because of some stupid excuse that he liked this or that. There are different expectations for every movie. Maybe he liked whatever crappy movie it was for what it was, but that's all that is. Doesn't mean you can negate all other viewpoints. Don't start being insecure fanboys.

 

[TheScarecrow]

Sounds like Iron Man 2 is going to be a disappointment. That's a real shame for the fans. It's a pity that Iron Man had to suffer so that Marvel could piggy-back its heroes with lesser potential on it. This was always going to happen at some point, a "universe" does not need to be built on film. It's disappointing to see so many Iron Man fans in this thread even still wanting more and more setup the Avengers. It's like some people have forgotten Iron Man along the way, as it would seem Favreau has done as well. Every film has negative reviews, but this is not a good start.

Please the same guy gave this review for tropic thunder

The problem is that everything in the negative reviews matches up to the fan opinions from the novelisation thread. The same criticisms I read in these reviews are in that thread coming from the fans themselves.

 

[The_Joker7895]

HB2 ****ing owns.

I agree. I loved Hellboy 2, even more than the first film (which I was a vocal champion of).

Honestly, everything points to Iron Man 2 being awesome, and the issues these reviews are pointing out are pretty much the same issues you see in any Marvel film, or any comic book film franchise for that matter. The Avengers stuff is important to the end goal. Iron Man 2 was always going to be a major stepping stone for The Avengers, so I don't see how this is unexpected or a problem. Marvel has been very clear with the direction they are taking their films in (the ones they own) from the get-go, so the idea that Iron Man 2, Thor, and Captain America are going to spend significant time getting us there is par for the course.

As per the complaints about too much going on in too short a runtime, that's a legitimate concern, but from what I can remember, this is a complaint in every comic book sequel EVER, even The Dark Knight, which some complained was actually too long for it's story. Whats more important is how it's actually handled. If you skirt character development in favor of exposition, ala Spiderman 3, X-Men 3, etc, it sucks. If you keep the focus on the characters and how their relationships affect the narrative, ala The Dark Knight, X2, Hellboy 2, and Spiderman 2, it works wonders.

Bottom line, this movie is going to kick some ass.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Sounds like Iron Man 2 is going to be a disappointment. That's a real shame for the fans. It's a pity that Iron Man had to suffer so that Marvel could piggy-back its heroes with lesser potential on it. This was always going to happen at some point, a "universe" does not need to be built on film. It's disappointing to see so many Iron Man fans in this thread even still wanting more and more setup the Avengers. It's like some people have forgotten Iron Man along the way, as it would seem Favreau has done as well. Every film has negative reviews, but this is not a good start.



The problem is that everything in the negative reviews matches up to the fan opinions from the novelisation thread. The same criticisms I read in these reviews are in that thread coming from the fans themselves.

It's amazing how after a mediocre Hulk movie (who is an A-list character that blew IM out of the water before any film btw), and how people just completely write off Thor and Cap when the movies are both over a year a way, that we jump to a conclusion like this. Now obviously I get this will in all likelihood be the inevitable result, and if it is, it is because Marvel did not have faith in the other characters and decided to piggyback off their initial success. It's probably a more than logical assumption. But we just don't know yet. Let's just see how the other movies perform. But the idea that Avengers should have been completely ignored, when that is the end game, is lunacy.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Wait are some people now implying that they know that the movie isn't going to be good? Because that would be silly!

Most sequels are sucktacular anyhow so it's not like IM2 would be out of the norm. The only seuqels I really enjoyed were TDK and Spider-Man 2. I kinda liked Pirates 2 but it damn sure wasn't as good as the first.

 

[Chewy]

Wait are some people now implying that they know that the movie isn't going to be good? Because that would be silly!

Of course!

 

[TheScarecrow]

It's amazing how after a mediocre Hulk movie (who is an A-list character that blew IM out of the water before any film btw), and how people just completely write off Thor and Cap when the movies are both over a year a way, that we jump to a conclusion like this. Now obviously I get this will in all likelihood be the inevitable result, and if it is, it is because Marvel did not have faith in the other characters and decided to piggyback off their initial success. It's probably a more than logical assumption. But we just don't know yet. Let's just see how the other movies perform. But the idea that Avengers should have been completely ignored, when that is the end game, is lunacy.

No, the end game should be making a decent movie - not a ten year money making plan off of a single successful character. Really, that's exactly what has happened. Marvel took a risk with Iron Man, and redid the Hulk. One of those paid off and they've been unwilling to do anything about it since. There is no need for Nick Fury to be in Iron Man 2 aside from setting up the Avengers, correct? What's the reason that everyone is wanting hints at Thor, Captain America, Hulk, etc?

The original Iron Man had ONE hint at the Avengers in a post credit sequence. The studio, Favreau and the fans all become so consumed with the idea of an Avengers movie that they completely traded in Iron Man for it. It was unnecessary. Favreau himself has said that his work on Iron Man 3 is years off because he has to wait for Avengers to be completed and has to wait out some freaking timeline that Marvel has constructed.

The Avengers - if and when it happens - should have been developed as a move within itself. It was silly to think otherwise, and poor film-making for any director to spend time developing plots and characters that have nothing to do with their film. The Avengers was not the "end game" with Iron Man 2 - the "end game" with Iron Man 2 was making a great Iron Man film.

They had their eyes on the wrong prize.

Wait are some people now implying that they know that the movie isn't going to be good? Because that would be silly!

I'm not saying I know the movie isn't going to be good, I'm saying that it's becoming blatantly obvious that Iron Man has been given the raw end of the deal here. I think the fans, the studio and creative team have put way to much emphasis on the Avengers and this has been supported by the current batch of reviews. I'm not hoping Iron Man 2 is bad, I'm just saying I think the wrong approach has been taken.

Having so much Avengers set up in IM2 (as it would seem from the reviews) is akin to having Nick Fury show up in Spider-man 2 and just talk with Peter during the middle of the movie, or having...I don't know...Wonder Woman or Superman show up in TDK to tell Batman all about the Justice League. What's the point?

 

[The_Joker7895]

Wait are some people now implying that they know that the movie isn't going to be good? Because that would be silly!

Most sequels are sucktacular anyhow so it's not like IM2 would be out of the norm. The only seuqels I really enjoyed were TDK and Spider-Man 2. I kinda liked Pirates 2 but it damn sure wasn't as good as the first.

Welcome to the internet my friend, where we pass judgement on things we've not yet seen based on the thoughts of two or three individuals because we're so fickle with our fandoms that we can't be bothered to pat attention to one for more than a few minutes before passing instant verdicts and then moving on. I blame youtube.

 

[Ipodman]

Critics Reviews aside... I'm more interested in whether this movie can break 1B like TDK did.....

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Welcome to the internet my friend, where we pass judgement on things we've not yet seen based on the thoughts of two or three individuals because we're so fickle with our fandoms that we can't be bothered to pat attention to one for more than a few minutes before passing instant verdicts and then moving on. I blame youtube.

I'm like wait for the f**king movie before you b**ch! I'm going to b**ch or praise the movie after I've seen it.

No, the end game should be making a decent movie - not a ten year money making plan off of a single successful character. Really, that's exactly what has happened. Marvel took a risk with Iron Man, and redid the Hulk. One of those paid off and they've been unwilling to do anything about it since. There is no need for Nick Fury to be in Iron Man 2 aside from setting up the Avengers, correct? What's the reason that everyone is wanting hints at Thor, Captain America, Hulk, etc?

The original Iron Man had ONE hint at the Avengers in a post credit sequence. The studio, Favreau and the fans all become so consumed with the idea of an Avengers movie that they completely traded in Iron Man for it. It was unnecessary. Favreau himself has said that his work on Iron Man 3 is years off because he has to wait for Avengers to be completed and has to wait out some freaking timeline that Marvel has constructed.

The Avengers - if and when it happens - should have been developed as a move within itself. It was silly to think otherwise, and poor film-making for any director to spend time developing plots and characters that have nothing to do with their film. The Avengers was not the "end game" with Iron Man 2 - the "end game" with Iron Man 2 was making a great Iron Man film.

They had their eyes on the wrong prize.

I don't give a s**t about that whole Avengers thing either but it's flat out ridiculous to assume what hurt the movie when you haven't even seen it.

 

[TheScarecrow]

Critics Reviews aside... I'm more interested in whether this movie can break 1B like TDK did.....

Even if the film is bad, I'm expecting a relatively high box office. Certainly as high or higher than the first, IMO.

 

[Anita18]

Welcome to the internet my friend, where we pass judgement on things we've not yet seen based on the thoughts of two or three individuals because we're so fickle with our fandoms that we can't be bothered to pat attention to one for more than a few minutes before passing instant verdicts and then moving on. I blame youtube.

It's just hype, folks. Positive and negative. The official critics haven't weighed in on this yet.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Critics Reviews aside... I'm more interested in whether this movie can break 1B like TDK did.....

It's not going to break a bil because the overseas numbers aren't going to be strong enough.

Feel free to pull up this post if the movie actually does.

Good or bad here is my prediction:

Opening Weekend: 167mil

Total: 455mil

Internationally: 385mil

Total: 840mil.

 

[TheScarecrow]

I'm not going to jump to conclusions because that would be silly but the amount of characters and the two year rush to make the flick has always been a great worry of mine.

This was also a concern of mine. The production was kind of rushed, IMO. I wouldn't even call it a two year rush, it took a little while for Marvel to bring back Favreau in any official context, didn't it? I'm a big fan of the three year break between these movies. Gives things time to breathe.

 

[TheScarecrow]

I'm not going to jump to conclusions because that would be silly but the amount of characters and the two year rush to make the flick has always been a great worry of mine.

This was also a concern of mine. The production was kind of rushed, IMO. I wouldn't even call it a two year rush, it took a little while for Marvel to bring back Favreau in any official context, didn't it? I'm a big fan of the three year break between these movies. Gives things time to breathe.

 

[Chris B]

I'll admit that the less than stellar reviews so far are concerning, but I'll wait to judge the film myself.

 

[The_Joker7895]

It's just hype, folks. Positive and negative. The official critics haven't weighed in on this yet.

QFT man. These "critics" are about as reliable as some random guy off the street.

 

[Chewy]

QFT man. These "critics" are about as reliable as some random guy off the street.

Thanks to the internet, some of these "critics" are random guys off the street.

 

[Chris B]

just found it, not a good review.

http://slashingtheseats.net/2010/04/27/iron-man-2/

I find it ironic that the writer for this review talks about being true to the comics, but doesn't know that the female version of Whiplash wasn't the original.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

This was also a concern of mine. The production was kind of rushed, IMO. I wouldn't even call it a two year rush, it took a little while for Marvel to bring back Favreau in any official context, didn't it? I'm a big fan of the three year break between these movies. Gives things time to breathe.

Spider-Man 2 had a two year break and the movie came out fine IMHO but I don't remember Raimi disagreeing with the studio on when the movie was going to come out.

The same disagreement happened with Bay regarding Transformers 2 and even quite a few of the lovers of the first film hated the movie.

 

[samsnee]

I thought HB2 would suck, and it did. I expect IM2 to be more of the same as IM...good, but not epic.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Does Epic mean great to you? Because if it does it would have just been easier to say great.

 

[ElMariachi]

I find it ironic that the writer for this review talks about being true to the comics, but doesn't know that the female version of Whiplash wasn't the original.

I find it odd that he calls out Jon Favreau in a mocking manner of the style of the film. It's comments like this that make me question these reviews.

Hell, he isn’t even telling us why Tony Stark is taking part in an F1 race when Whiplash attacks. I guess it just looked cool huh John?

 

[Chris B]

I find it odd that he calls out Jon Favreau in a mocking manner of the style of the film. It's comments like this that make me question these reviews.

I agree. I respect these guy's opinion, but some of these reviews do sound like the writers just wanted to hate on the film.