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The Cure for the cure?

MoreCowbell said:
That defeats the point of the movie. I really believe it has to do with the character of Magneto and not the cure. he would never give up... NEVER. That's the point.

Lots of things at the end defeats parts of movies. It wasn't so much the cure as the idea of it made Magneto and other mutants flip out. humans still tried to cure mutants. The point it made still stands even if it is temporary.
 
RedIsNotBlue said:
1. Hmm didn't you hear?? Parts can be *GASP*...recasted. And Jackman isn't certainly not returning...he just isn't contracted for X4.

2. It doesn't relate to the cure. I was speaking about how people are saying X4 won't happen yet that was a huge thing left open.

You could rescast, but you could also drive a car with your feet if you wanted to. It's too hard to cast a character of that caliber when the orginal (Hugh) was very popular and great in the role... That's when comic movies become hokey. Butr, uou're right, Hugh hasn't said no, but it is my opinon that he won't return and ASSUMING my opinion is correct, I don't think X4 will happpen without him. I understand what you're saying, but I don't think it's logical possibility. Hey, if we can get Hugh, Ian, Patrick, etc... back and a real pre-production with a credible director then I'm all for X4.

Sorry, thought you were speaking of the cure.
 
The best writers in the world couldn't make a chart-topping sequel to X3...Where could it possibly go storywise? Where's the conflict? Where do we go?

-TNC
 
TNC9852002 said:
The best writers in the world couldn't make a chart-topping sequel to X3...Where could it possibly go storywise? Where's the conflict? Where do we go?

-TNC

...you're...being sarcastic right?
 
TNC9852002 said:
The best writers in the world couldn't make a chart-topping sequel to X3...Where could it possibly go storywise? Where's the conflict? Where do we go?

-TNC

Bring back Mystique and Magneto together after their cure wears off...interesting stuff there.

Let Rogue be normal for a while but the cure wears off and she finally has to accept who she is.

Angel's father dies but not before he accepts Warren for who is and leaves him his empire...in which he helps fund Xavier's school.

Storm becoming the head of the school as Xavier told her.

Have Trask become the Trask we know from the comics and get some REAL ****ing Sentinels in there.

And I think this arc should involve Apocalypse.


There is just some ideas...and I have MUCH more.
 
RedIsNotBlue said:
Bring back Mystique and Magneto together after their cure wears off...interesting stuff there.

Let Rogue be normal for a while but the cure wears off and she finally has to accept who she is.

Angel's father dies but not before he accepts Warren for who is and leaves him his empire...in which he helps fund Xavier's school.

Storm becoming the head of the school as Xavier told her.

Have Trask become the Trask we know from the comics and get some REAL ****ing Sentinels in there.

And I think this arc should involve Apocalypse.


There is just some ideas...and I have MUCH more.


I defenitly think X-4 will involve sinister. He would bring back Cyclops in some way and bring in Havok because he needs them to awaken Apocolypse
 
Well we never actually SAW Cyclops bite it. He could be still be in without being dead. But that is an interesting idea.
 
RedIsNotBlue said:
Well we never actually SAW Cyclops bite it. He could be still be in without being dead. But that is an interesting idea.

I think it's a pretty good assumption that he's dead:o Jean did basically admit it
 
Exactly. Assumption. I like how they left it so that they could bring him back easily if they wanted.
 
RedIsNotBlue said:
Bring back Mystique and Magneto together after their cure wears off...interesting stuff there.

Let Rogue be normal for a while but the cure wears off and she finally has to accept who she is.

Angel's father dies but not before he accepts Warren for who is and leaves him his empire...in which he helps fund Xavier's school.
I really hatwe he idea that the cure "wears off." It's tested and proven. Magneto comes back, no one else. It's to comic booky (which is fine with me, but....) for an audience to believe. We already had jean come back and now Xaiver in a new form.

Storm becoming the head of the school as Xavier told her.
No thanks... Scott comes back is far better, IMO. The school should be left to him and him alone.

Have Trask become the Trask we know from the comics and get some REAL ****ing Sentinels in there.
Agreed. I wish Penn/Kinberg had Trask being sneaky with underhanded motives. That would of helped that storyline.

And I think this arc should involve Apocalypse.
I think apoc is to hard to explain in one film. I think he needs a whole trilogy (like the phoenix).
 
MoreCowbell said:
Storm becoming the head of the school as Xavier told her.
No thanks... Scott comes back is far better, IMO. The school should be left to him and him alone.

Agreed. I wish Penn/Kinberg had Trask being sneaky with underhanded motives. That would of helped that storyline.

I think apoc is to hard to explain in one film. I think he needs a whole trilogy (like the phoenix).[/QUOTE]

I should have said that I didn't mean have on film for Apocalypse. I have always said he needs his own three movies.
 
zer00 said:
I think it's a pretty good assumption that he's dead:o Jean did basically admit it

Jean admitted it. But when she was kissing Scott she clearly wasn't Jean....;)
 
MoreCowbell said:
I really hatwe he idea that the cure "wears off." It's tested and proven. Magneto comes back, no one else. It's to comic booky (which is fine with me, but....) for an audience to believe. We already had jean come back and now Xaiver in a new form.

You obviously don't know the audience very well. It's tested and proven? they weren't testing it for months at a time. it wore off on magneto first because he's stronger. They came back from the dead. The cure not being permanent is quite different.

If it was to show how strong mahneto is. then it would have been clearer. But it was there to show that the cure itself can't suppress the mutant gene for long,. It goes into remission like lukemia but can come back just as easily over time. Like a disease. which is an intersting angle.
 
funny thing is magneto took 4 in the chest and it wtill wore off on him.

what a sav.
 
MoreCowbell said:
That defeats the point of the movie. I really believe it has to do with the character of Magneto and not the cure. he would never give up... NEVER. That's the point.

i have to respectfully disagree. magneto is a strong-willed character, but it would take more than just will-power to return yourself to 'normal', or in his case, restore his mutation. if all it took was will-power, no one would be blind, deaf, have cancer or have aids. they'd just 'will' it away.

i like the idea of a temporary cure. if mystique got her powers back, i don't think she'd be too happy with magneto. she may not try to retalliate, but i wouldn't want to see her just side back with him. and if rogue's powers crept up on her, she'd probably be heartbroken. i'd like to see a mystique/rogue relationship develop in (if there is an) x4. rogue leaves the mansion, a solo mystique takes her under her wing.....and we pretty much know where it would go from there.
 
F Apoc..have Sinster as the lead villain for X-4..im not a great person when it comes to these ideas but I guess at the end if they would do an X-5 (way into the future :D) you could have Magneto come back at the end of something or Apoc being hinted thoughout X-4 and then X-5 is the Apoc stuff. A lot can happen in these movies too..Cykes/Jean/Professor could all return too. Im sure they could do a lot of good things and not play it out.
 
Yellow Ranger said:
i have to respectfully disagree. magneto is a strong-willed character, but it would take more than just will-power to return yourself to 'normal', or in his case, restore his mutation. if all it took was will-power, no one would be blind, deaf, have cancer or have aids. they'd just 'will' it away.

i like the idea of a temporary cure. if mystique got her powers back, i don't think she'd be too happy with magneto. she may not try to retalliate, but i wouldn't want to see her just side back with him. and if rogue's powers crept up on her, she'd probably be heartbroken. i'd like to see a mystique/rogue relationship develop in (if there is an) x4. rogue leaves the mansion, a solo mystique takes her under her wing.....and we pretty much know where it would go from there.

Good points, I just hate the idea that the cure wasn't perfect. The emotion of who and why people are cured goes out the window. Mystique protecting her friend, Rouge to have quality of life, and Mags being forced to give his power up. When I saw him cured I thought of the scene in X2 where he is reading "The once and future King." And then I thought of that scene again as he moved the chess piece. That was one connection Kinberg and Penn made (maybe it wasn't intentional, but thats how I saw it) I loved!

I have an idea... Have Sinister/Dr. Essex make an antidote. Mutants can restore their power (and maybe Mags makes a deal to help him if he turns him back), but the catch-22 is it's the Legacy Virus... Solves the cure problem, and creates a new storyline derived from X3...
 
Well I don't see how it ruins the movie because no one knows that the cure isn't just for some time and then you get the powers back. All but Magneto.
 
Mark My Words X4, X5, & X6 Will Happen. I Dont See The Franchise Stopping To Be Honest. We Might See An End At X10, Why Not? That Could Break Some Type Of Box Office Record. If You've Ever Read The X-Comics, The Team Has Always Swapped Members. They Didnt Just Drag All These People In The Movies & Leave Little Hints In The Movies That Scream Sequel For Nothing. Angel Was Brought In To Become Archangel. Wolverine Will Leave For A Few Movies, Maybe Make A Cameo Or Two. Wolvie Always Left & Went On His Own Missions. Storm Will Leave Also, Halle Is Too Costly. She'll Go Soul Searching In Africa Or Something Eventually. I Think She'll Be Cast In X4 Just To Let Us Know Why She's Leaving. X4 Cyclops Is Back! Mr.Sinister Will Either Bring Cyclops Back To Life Or Cyclops Never Died. He Could've Been Stumbling In The Woods Somewhere With His Eyes Closed For All We Know. Apocalypse Will Raise Hell With Archangel & Sinister. He Will Make Magneto Look Like A Superhero Instead Of A Villian. He's Gonna Be F'N Ruthless. "Only The Strong Survive." They Signed Plenty Of Actors For X-Sequels Not For X-3. Nightcrawler Will Return. Rouge, Mystique, & Nightcrawlers Relationship Will Be Exposed. And Somehow Rouge Will Get Her Powers While With Mystique. I Cant Believe She Has'nt Yet. I Thought She Wuz Gonna Take Juggernaut's Energy. I Could See Beast Returning For At Least One More. Gambit Will Be In One Of These Movies, I Assume It'll Be When Rouge's Love Affair With Bobby Ends, In Comes The Smooth Talking Cajun Who Fixes Rouge's Broken Heart. He May Be The Reason She Leaves Mystique & Returns To The X-Men. This Team Is Gonna Swap Members Often & X-Kids Will Become Members. We Still Have'nt Saw The Blob, Real Sentinels, Havok, Genosha. There's So Much To Explore. We All Know It. Toad Should Return. Sabertooth & Lady Deathstrike Should Return In The Wolverine Prequel. I Believe Jean Is Gone Unless Sinister & Apocalypse Have Something Up Their Sleeve. And If They Do Make An X-10, All Cast Members Will Return For One Badazz Battle They Must All Fight To Win. There's More Mutants To Introduce & Some Familar Faces Will Return. Wolverine Can Leave For A While, We're Still Going To The Cinemas...He'll Be Back.
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i agree! also back to the whole cure thing i beleive that mags is just starting to get his power back because he is a strong mutant hes class 3 or above rite? Also if 4 needles didnt cure him then i think everyone will eventually get their powers back maybe for those who want it, it will be like a vaccine where you have to go evry now and again to get re injected. leeches powers only work temporarily so i think it will be the same for the cure. Also heres a thought maybe the cure makes their powers more powerful, think of it rogue comes within a few metres of people and she starts to absorb their energy, mystique can turn into anything maybe microscopic bacteria. maybe even when rogue touches someone they explode! this is just a thought tho.
 

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