The Disney owns Fox thread

[terry78]

 

[batman1]

The films will be awesome if this goes down!!

 

[Darepool]

Welcome to my ignore list.

Can't say the same, you fascinate me.

 

[Limonade]

Personally I don't understand why people gets so excited about Disney getting their hands on X-Men and Fantastic Four. Sure, Fox has failed spectacularly with FF, but many of the X-Men-movies has been at least on par with anything Disney released so far. And the best of them beats anything Disney done. And I don't see Disney ever making a R-rated movie like Logan.

But the effects are much bigger than that. Look at the comics currently, when has Marvel recently put FF4 and X-Men in the forefront in a brand new storyline? Short answer: They are not. It's just a rehash of old storylines from the 80s and 90s.

If this deal with Fox and Disney were to go through in an alternate universe... I see those comic, tv, and film divisions picking up steam.

As it is currently, only spin-offs of the X-men universe are in development in tv land. One-offs stories of characters like Wolverine. And occasionally mediocre X-Men films. Like honestly, for those X-men fans... all I see you doing is getting your scraps from Simon Kinberg and saying "mmm. so delicious!"

I want the entire MCU not just a segregated X-Men, FF4, and MCU universe... it's just a horrible way to continue this road. It makes movies like Infinity War less epic without all characters in the fray.

But that's me. Whatever gets Marvel their universe whole again.

 

[marvelrobbins]

But the effects are much bigger than that. Look at the comics currently, when has Marvel recently put FF4 and X-Men in the forefront in a brand new storyline? Short answer: They are not. It's just a rehash of old storylines from the 80s and 90s.

If this deal with Fox and Disney were to go through in an alternate universe... I see those comic, tv, and film divisions picking up steam.

As it is currently, only spin-offs of the X-men universe are in development in tv land. One-offs stories of characters like Wolverine. And occasionally mediocre X-Men films. Like honestly, for those X-men fans... all I see you doing is getting your scraps from Simon Kinberg and saying "mmm. so delicious!"

I want the entire MCU not just a segregated X-Men, FF4, and MCU universe... it's just a horrible way to continue this road. It makes movies like Infinity War less epic without all characters in the fray.

But that's me. Whatever gets Marvel their universe whole again.

of course the mcu fans love this idea.it's bad for any film or tv property from
fox.even simpsons could be in trouble.

 

[Teelie]

I think the way this buyout would work is everything but news, sports and television would go to Disney, so it would be their movies and entertainment (video games primarily) divisons and anything on television like the Simpsons would be kept with Fox.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I think the way this buyout would work is everything but news, sports and television would go to Disney, so it would be their movies and entertainment (video games primarily) divisons and anything on television like the Simpsons would be kept with Fox.

simpsons woud continue to air on fox network through next season but it woud be owned by disney.simpsons over years has taken potshots at disney as well as fox network itself.would disney allow that.doudtful.

 

[nite-owl]

 

[Fincher]

According to what I read, Fox would keep their broadcast network and Fox News, but Disney would get FX.

It could maybe hurt The Gifted depending on how the deal is worked out, because maybe they wouldn't be able to add any characters from the source material they don't already have. That's purely speculative, though.

 

[TheVileOne]

Government could still block a deal like this from going through.

 

[Tony Stark]

Government could still block a deal like this from going through.

Very doubtful. There are so few cases of the government blocking corporate acquisitions like this where Company A is trying to unload part of it's business.

In the case of AT&T trying to buy T-Mobile, there were trying to buy the whole company and it had a more direct impact on customers. At the time AT&T had one of the lowest customer satisfaction rates, and you had a more proactive Justice Department for going after these things.

 

[TheVileOne]

You say doubtful, but let's wait and see.

 

[Tony Stark]

You say doubtful, but let's wait and see.

Well were not even close to that point yet. First Fox and their BOD have to agree to the sale of the entertainment piece. It would then go through regulatory oversite, but again there are very few cases where the government would block a M&A from two publicly traded companies, and the DoJ would have to initiate it, and I just don't see the current administration doing that in this case.

 

[Hypestyle]

I hope not. As much as I'm a fan of Marvel/Disney getting control of the FF and X-Men franchises, I'm not a fan of continued hyper-consolidation of mass media companies.

So if this deal was scuttled, I'm grudgingly satisfied, though I'm sure it means that the FF and X-Men aren't getting to Disney anytime soon, alas.

 

[-JKR-]

This is one of the biggest myths. Disney wouldn't do a R-Rated movie.. and really holds no water.

Disney getting Fox would not be a bad thing. People think Disney would "Disney-fy" things.. such as Alien, Predator..ect.. I think they have proved in the past just because Disney owns something does not mean Its "Disney" Marvel Studios is still Marvel Studios not Disney Studios. When you buy something you might want input but you do not change what makes the thing you bought desirable.

As for Rated R..

Disney, owned Miramax Films from 1993—2010
Miramax owned the genre label Dimension Films


Some of the R-rated films that Miramax released during this time period:

• Quentin Tarantino’s Pulp Fiction (1994)
• Quentin Tarantino’s Kill Bill Volume 1 and Volume 2 (2003-2004)
• Peter Jackson’s Heavenly Creatures (1994)
• Kevin Smith’s Clerks (1994)
• Gary Felder’s Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead (1995)
• Woody Allen’s Mighty Aphrodite (1995)
• Danny Boyle’s Trainspotting (1995)
• Anthony Minghella’s The English Patient (1996)
• Gus Van Sant’s Good Will Hunting (1997)
• Lasse Hallström’s The Cider House Rules (1999)
• Steven Soderbergh’s Full Frontal (2002)

Some of the R-rated films that Dimension Films released during this time period:

• Robert Rodriguez’s From Dusk Till Dawn (1996).
• Robert Rodriguez’s Sin City (2005)
• Robert Rodriguez’s The Faculty (1998)
• Halloween H20: 20 Years Later (1998)
• Wes Craven’s Scream (1996)
• Wes Craven’s Scream 2 (1997)
• Wes Craven’s Scream 3 (2000).
• Bad Santa (2003)
• The Amityville Horror (2005)

Disney has sold off Miramax and Dimension, and their 'adult' banners such as Touchstone Pictures and Hollywood Pictures are inactive. They aren't interested in making non-franchise movies, and haven't been in quite some time. They don't even accept pitches from writers, because they'll reach out to them whenever they've decided what tentpole pic to do next.

Disney buying 20th Century Fox would probably just end up with them miking whatever franchises they've got.

 

[Sithborg]

To be fair, Disney has been making interesting projects, like Tomorrow Land, BFG, and Wrinkle in Time. Granted, they may be there to cut down on their profits for taxes, but hey, they have been making them.

Nothing indicates that they are interested in the stuff Fox and Fox Searchlight puts out.

 

[Mysteryman]

I don't know if this is truly dead, But, I am very glad that it isn't moving forward now.
Stay Dead.

 

[Mysteryman]

To be fair, Disney has been making interesting projects, like Tomorrow Land, BFG, and Wrinkle in Time. Granted, they may be there to cut down on their profits for taxes, but hey, they have been making them.

Nothing indicates that they are interested in the stuff Fox and Fox Searchlight puts out.

Nothing except fact that they just tried to buy 21st Century Fox.
They must be interested in something over there.

 

[terry78]

Basically even if it is dead the fact that the talks went on for so long do say something.

 

[Mysteryman]

Yeah, it says that they tried to come to terms but ultimately couldn't.

 

[-JKR-]

To be fair, Disney has been making interesting projects, like Tomorrow Land, BFG, and Wrinkle in Time. Granted, they may be there to cut down on their profits for taxes, but hey, they have been making them.

Nothing indicates that they are interested in the stuff Fox and Fox Searchlight puts out.

The BFG was financed by Amblin and Walden Media, with Disney handling US distribution. I'll give you Tomorrowland, but Brad Bird was a huge name, and they probably have changed their mind since then (I liked the movie, though)... and also A Wrinkle in Time, but we're still talking about a big budget fantasy epic with a certain tentpole appeal = still the same target audience as the live-action remakes of their animated movies and the Star Wars and Marvel franchises.

And that wouldn't change with a possible Fox acquisition, because otherwise they would've simply resurrected Touchstone Pictures and Hollywood Pictures. They're after the brands that Fox owns, and their back-catalogue, so that they can fill up their upcoming streaming service with more exclusive content.

We don't need a studio with a diverse movie slate, which appeals to multiple, different target audiences, to be eaten up by the Walt Disney Company.

 

[TheVileOne]

You see I like the idea of Marvel getting back its other comic properties.

I don't like the idea of Disney owning all these other entertainment brands and possibly dissolving them. Fox isn't my favorite studio, but the idea of Disney owning Fox and all its networks and then possibly getting rid of some of them as a result seems wrong.

 

[honestbharani]

The interesting thing here is, as another forum member pointed out somewhere, that even if Fox were to sell of their movies and TV companies to some group other than Disney, it's extremely likely that Marvel still get back the rights for their properties.

 

[Teelie]

And we do not need anymore Disneyification of movies and television. There needs to be more diverse and especially adult-oriented content to keep the audiences interested. Stuff like Logan or Deadpool would never get made under a Disney banner.

 

[honestbharani]

Deadpool only good made due to a leaked scene, else Fox would not have done either of those movies either. I understand Disney may not wany to jeopardize their own juggernaut but surely, people can see they have enough business sense that even if they do buy out Fox Studios, they will use that brand and keep the successful genres and franchises from those alive?