The Disney owns Fox thread

[TheVileOne]

Myra I know but fox wanted to be sold and they choose Disney

That's great and all but someone asked the downsides to this and I explained what they potentially are.

I'm not saying Disney is the bad guy here. But it's not a black and white situation either.

 

[ironwez20]

That's great and all but someone asked the downsides to this and I explained what they potentially are.

I'm not saying Disney is the bad guy here. But it's not a black and white situation either.

Yea I know. It’s not a good thing to me. But again they wanted to sell. Idk what the future of film will be like tho

 

[psylockolussus]

Fox was selling anyway, along with the X-Men/F4 film rights. I personally care about X-Men the most and I couldn't care less about their other ips if it means the X-Men get better films under Marvel Studios. Also Universal Pictures is a very hit and miss, moreso than Disndy and there's zero evidence that they (Comcast) would just let foX do their own thing if they got foX, especially Universal Pictures have a lot of recent flops (Dark Universe, Mortal Engines, Dolittle, Cats to name a few).

Companies merge all the time. Viacom and Cbs merged, At&t and Wb, but nobody really bat an eyelid. I think some people are just threatened by Disney, because they are successful in what they do.

 

[Filmfreak]

Mergings happen all the time but not all mergings lead to a company owning 1/3 of the market share.

 

[terry78]

Basically just have to get used to Disney owning the majority of entertainment. As a company that's their goal, it hasn't suddenly changed in the last decade or anything.

 

[Da-Scribe]

If Disney’s offering were a bit more varied, I’d be more excited about all this. I ain’t faulting them for it, but it just ain’t my bag.

 

[terry78]

I'm starting to see that 20th Television logo after tv shows now.

 

[psylockolussus]

Mergings happen all the time but not all mergings lead to a company owning 1/3 of the market share.

Wellthey wouldn't have 1/3 of the market share if other studios know how to sell movies like Disney. And 1/3 isn't 50% so its far from monopoly.

And fyi, the current 20th Century film division have yet to have a real worldwide hit since Bohemian Rhapsody. A lot of recent 20th Century movies just come and go and those movies were greenlit by the old foX regime. So that doesn't mean, something that is being distributed by Disney instantly turns to gold. The movies still need to appeal to audiences first.

So are you suggesting that foX should have went to a smaller studio or company something like LionsGate or Paramount? Would those companies even have the money to buy Fox? Yeah no.

Like I said some people are just threatened by Disney's success.

 

[Filmfreak]

Disney does what Disney does. What every other company would probably like to be able to do. The system works like that. It's not a matter of a good or a bad studio or whose fault it is. It's whether this situation will hurt the industry. And there is no question it will. Lack of competition always does. Even if 33% is not 50% (yet), it's still monopoly and it's not healthy for the market.

I understand fans wanting to see more faithful and successful adaptations of their beloved characters but that's such a tiny part of the deal as a whole in the decades to come. And it's one thing to look at the situation and say "well at least we have that" and another to root for this outcome as a whole.

 

[PsylockeBlackWidow]

Disney does what Disney does. What every other company would probably like to be able to do. The system works like that. It's not a matter of a good or a bad studio or whose fault it is. It's whether this situation will hurt the industry. And there is no question it will. Lack of competition always does. Even if 33% is not 50% (yet), it's still monopoly and it's not healthy for the market.

I understand fans wanting to see more faithful and successful adaptations of their beloved characters but that's such a tiny part of the deal as a whole in the decades to come. And it's one thing to look at the situation and say "well at least we have that" and another to root for this outcome as a whole.

I really wish Marvel had the film rights to all of their characters at the beginning.

 

[psylockolussus]

Disney does what Disney does. What every other company would probably like to be able to do. The system works like that. It's not a matter of a good or a bad studio or whose fault it is. It's whether this situation will hurt the industry. And there is no question it will. Lack of competition always does. Even if 33% is not 50% (yet), it's still monopoly and it's not healthy for the market.

I understand fans wanting to see more faithful and successful adaptations of their beloved characters but that's such a tiny part of the deal as a whole in the decades to come. And it's one thing to look at the situation and say "well at least we have that" and another to root for this outcome as a whole.

If other Studios know how to come up with good movies or at least market their movies as good as Disney maybe Disney wouldn't dominate the industry so much? Like I/someone already said their acquisition of Fox didn't give them more market share as the recent Fox movies just came and went. Like they only rose by 1% and other studios got more market share. So monopoly that. you don't have the numbers.

Also, this merger was approved by a dozen of governments already, like move on already.

 

[Filmfreak]

You seem to have difficulty following an argument where who's to blame is not the point and try to give numbers about an acquisition that only now begins to show any effect and only in future productions. You also miss the point where Disney already dominates everything. First they got Pixar, then Marvel, then Star Wars, now Fox. The latest situation only further enforces the fact and it's obvious they're not going to stop there. That's how business works. You want to pretend that the merging of two of the biggest film studios in the world is not going to make things worse for the industry as a whole, go ahead. It's going to become painfuly obvious in the years and decades to come.

 

[psylockolussus]

You seem to have difficulty following an argument where who's to blame is not the point and try to give numbers about an acquisition that only now begins to show any effect and only in future productions. You also miss the point where Disney already dominates everything. First they got Pixar, then Marvel, then Star Wars, now Fox. The latest situation only further enforces the fact and it's obvious they're not going to stop there. That's how business works. You want to pretend that the merging of two of the biggest film studios in the world is not going to make things worse for the industry as a whole, go ahead. It's going to become painfuly obvious in the years and decades to come.

When Disney acquires Sony Pictures, WB, Universal, and we are only left with 2 major studios. We can talk.

If you want someone to blame, blame Rupert Murdoch and all governments in the world that approved this.

Fox could have went to Comcast and would you be saying the same thing about this monopoly nonsense to Comcast?

 

[Filmfreak]

When Disney acquires Sony Pictures, WB, Universal, and we are only left with 2 major studios. We can talk.

Play semantics as much as you want. The fact remains. The more competition the healthier the medium.

If you want someone to blame, blame Rupert Murdoch and all governments in the world that approved this.

I don't know why it's difficult for you to understand that I don't blame anyone in specific and I don't care to. It's a far too complicated situation for someone to reach such a simplistic conclusion and it is besides the point I'm trying to make.

Fox could have went to Comcast and would you be saying the same thing about this monopoly nonsense to Comcast?

The Fox situation was bad no matter what. But since you ask my opinion Comcast doesn't have the rising power of Disney so overall it would have been the lesser of two evils. But evil none the less. So I would still be against it almost as much as I am now. The problem is people like you seem to have that Studio X vs Studio Y black & white mentality and it's impossible to identify an argument that is not a targeted attack on something you like.

 

[psylockolussus]

But the X-Men are with Marvel Studios again so it was worth it.

That is seriously the argument some people are still going with.

Love the new logo!

Can't wait to see it in the big screen when I watch the New Mutants!

 

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[mclay18]

It just looks bare without the Fox moniker.

 

[mclay18]

High-res versions of the 20th Century and Searchlight Pictures logos.




BTW, likely due to contractual reasons, the post-Disney buyout releases' copyright say "© 20th Century-Fox Film Corporation" even though it's a fully-owned Disney subsidiary.

 

[dark_b]

Disney heir criticises company over $1.5bn bonuses as it cuts pay

 

[terry78]

Ouch. Walt would haunt the **** out of these people for that.

 

[PsylockeBlackWidow]

If you want someone to blame, blame Rupert Murdoch and all governments in the world that approved this.

I agree those people being b**chy about the merger need to blame them.

 

[Iceman]

After the ****stain of Fox News over the last few years I automatically prefer it.

 

[mclay18]

Thanks to Disney, two former 20th Century Fox execs have made the jump to Paramount Pictures: Chris Aronson as president of domestic theatrical distribution and now Emma Watts as Motion Picture Group president.

Paramount Pictures Names Emma Watts President of the Motion Picture Group