Superman Returns The Effects of Kryptonite

[Robin91939]

I think this is why the NK lift was so slow. His powers weren't 100%.

Nah....the lift was slow, because that was one heavy rock. Superman's powers DO have limits.

He avoided the Kryptonite for much of the lift. He burrowed WAY down into the earth and picked it up from the natural earth setament....with a good barrier between him and the kryptonite. It wasn't until he reached the outer layers of the atmosphere, and the "growing" kryptonite started breaking through the natural earth that the effects began to be felt...culminating in knocking him out, and having him plumet to earth.

-R

 

[user123456789]

i also want to point out that..when he went up the sun there wasnt any krpytonite in him..(loiis pulled it out the first time) it was the second time of the krpytonite that cut him as he lifted nk up...see pic...which led to the doc takin it out

Nah Lois didn't take out all of the kryptonite. If you listen to the hospital scene, the doctor says that the shard of kryptonite was takin from a penetration wound in his right lower back.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

The physical body and psyche will always be intertwined so you can never ignore one aspect, especially with Superman. One of the reasons IMO that superman is so loved and popular is his ability in overcome almost all situations even when it looks impossible.

In the film, Superman realized that new krypton would cause the earth damage the more it grew and billions of lives were in danger, this fact was all Superman needed to lift the island even with kryptonite imbedded within it. Oh and it showed that while superman was lifting the continent, his hands were deteriating from K poisen.

Read my last line again..."No matter how much willpower Superman has, it would never be enough to lift an ALL CONTINENT."
Willpower is great, all superheroes have it, and Superman more than others, but, like i said, the Kryptonite effects are physical, which means that he could have enough willpower to lift, let´s say, a Bigfoot or a house or something, not something as heavy as a freaking continent.

 

[Steelsheen]

I was under the impression that he was trying to act as if he wasn't weak while confronting Lex. They did show a bead of sweat on his head, so Superman must've been feeling pain or weakness.

exactly.

also notice that he was looking around, kind of wierded out, not only by how eerily familiar the place looked, but how funky he must've felt. then of course he sees Luthor and he tries to square off with him.

 

[Steelsheen]

He avoided the Kryptonite for much of the lift. He burrowed WAY down into the earth and picked it up from the natural earth setament....with a good barrier between him and the kryptonite. It wasn't until he reached the outer layers of the atmosphere, and the "growing" kryptonite started breaking through the natural earth that the effects began to be felt...culminating in knocking him out, and having him plumet to earth.

bingo

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Yup.

But, still....the giant rock at traces of Kryptonite. Small traces, which I think helped slow him down.

But, I mean....****.....that was one giant ass rock to lift.

 

[TheBat812]

Stop posting that pic. Not only is it illegal, but you can't tell wtf is goin on anyways.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Well, it's New Krypton pic....that much I can tell.

 

[1superfan]

Well here's my thought on the whole New Krypton thing. It may be wrong or you may not agree with it. I dont know but this is what I think.

I believe that the reason he was able to lift it and get as far as he did without the kryptonite effecting him to the point of him not being able to lift it is because when he shot down and below NK he went far enough below the Earths crust that it slightly negated the kryptonite.

If you noticed while he was lifting NK the the earth foundation that was on it was falling away and after a little time the kryptonite started to show through. When that happened you could really see it starting to effect him.

That's just my thought. You dont have to take it to heart.

 

[Gogo Bananas]

It's all just another example of sloppy film making.

 

[Aptman]

Read my last line again..."No matter how much willpower Superman has, it would never be enough to lift an ALL CONTINENT."
Willpower is great, all superheroes have it, and Superman more than others, but, like i said, the Kryptonite effects are physical, which means that he could have enough willpower to lift, let´s say, a Bigfoot or a house or something, not something as heavy as a freaking continent.

Well, he wasn't lifting a continent. It was only an island at the time. If you remember the maps Lex had, the land would start out small, and continue to grow (most likely by adding the other crystals). If it was already the size of a big continent, then the water displacement of the ocean would have flood the city and a whole lot more (the reason billions would die by the end of its completion), but it clearly didn't...not even a little bit.

Willpower can allow people to work through physical pain. Superman's limits are not given in the film. So, who's to say how hindering the kyptonite was to him.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

He had a ton of will power in that scene, that's for sure. It's not sloppy filmmaking. Your just not seeing the things that are there.

Aptman pretty much got it right. It was an island....not an enture continent.

 

[Gogo Bananas]

I'm seeing it - I'm just not making excuses for them.

 

[Kane]

I think Singer wanted him to push his body to the extremes and do things that are normally impossible....at the risk of Superman losing his life in the process.

It was similar to how Singer said that in STM, Reeve used everything...all his energy and will to do the impossible..turn back time.

 

[Kane]

I also think Superman planned to throw NK into the sun.....but never made it that far.

 

[Eteric]

I went and seen it again yesterday, this is pretty much how I see it.

When he shot down, he went under the earth's crust. Trust me, I looked and really didn't see any Kryptonite. But then it started to break through right as he was out of the atmosphere (or at least really high up).

Kind of like moving a plant.

 

[Galactical]

I guess kryptonite's not as deadly to him in this film as lois said it was. Lex carrying a piece in his pocket and superman not feeling a thing indicates to me that its effects aren't as deadly or disabling as they were in the old movies either.

He should have had more will power when lex's thugs were beating him.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Well, just b/c the Kryptonite's not there.....it still seems to have affected him a little....the entire island seemed to have small traces, like little diamonds of it, everywhere. I mean, forget that too....the entire island was one heavy mother****er......that was a ton to carry, even for Superman.....once he got to the stratosphere, very near space, the Kryptonite seeped through....and he just seemed to push it as far as he could.

Plus, he still had the Kryptonite shards in his back in him.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I guess kryptonite's not as deadly to him in this film as lois said it was. Lex carrying a piece in his pocket and superman not feeling a thing indicates to me that its effects aren't as deadly or disabling as they were in the old movies either.

Why not? He could barely even stand on his own b/c of it.

Besides, it's been shown CONSTANTLY in films and in the comics, that Superman can sometimes fight through the pain of the Kryptonite. He wore a Kryptonite ring to defeat Kara, and had a bullet of Kryptonite inside him as well.

He should have had more will power when lex's thugs were beating him.

What could he have done? He got up, still showing he hadn't given up and wasn't afraid.

 

[Agentdemon]

Read my last line again..."No matter how much willpower Superman has, it would never be enough to lift an ALL CONTINENT."
Willpower is great, all superheroes have it, and Superman more than others, but, like i said, the Kryptonite effects are physical, which means that he could have enough willpower to lift, let´s say, a Bigfoot or a house or something, not something as heavy as a freaking continent.

All your Bold type isn't chaning the facts, Superman's greatest qualities is his will to sacrifice himself for others. Superman time and time again has shown in all mediums his determination to help people and nothing has stood in his way, even if it killed him. Which almost happened in the film.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Well, plus, it wasn't a continent.

 

[hurley711]

There are too many inconsistencies with the Kryptonite. As stated above, he can lift a huge ass semi-continent and throw it into space with a piece still in his back.....yet while just standing on the island with no kryptonite stuck in him he can't defend himself against human thugs. And yes I understand the island had kryptonite all around it, but it wasn't embedded in him like when he lifted the rock into space. That is way to inconsistent.

 

[Galactical]

Why not? He could barely even stand on his own b/c of it.

Besides, it's been shown CONSTANTLY in films and in the comics, that Superman can sometimes fight through the pain of the Kryptonite. He wore a Kryptonite ring to defeat Kara, and had a bullet of Kryptonite inside him as well.


What could he have done? He got up, still showing he hadn't given up and wasn't afraid.

Ok... getting stabbed can do that. but If some radioactive rock is deadly to superman as Lois says, shouldn't he usually show its deadly effects when he's close enough to it? I don't think we see this pain or struggle to fight this pain of kryptonite, no not until he's lifting the continent which is pretty painful to do itself I imagine.

With some more will power maybe he might have been able to bring himself back up to enough strength to defeat those humans? He could do it to shove a continent into space. If I were him, I'd have found the same strength to fight kryptonite enough to kill a few humans.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

There are too many inconsistencies with the Kryptonite. As stated above, he can lift a huge ass semi-continent and throw it into space with a piece still in his back.....yet while just standing on the island with no kryptonite stuck in him he can't defend himself against human thugs. And yes I understand the island had kryptonite all around it, but it wasn't embedded in him like when he lifted the rock into space. That is way to inconsistent.

Well, the land he was standing one, was filled with traces of Kryptonite. That's why, when he was pushed down by Lex, his hands were bleeding from touching the floor. He was weakened by the Kryptonite surrounding him beneath him.

When he lifted the island, there wasn't as much present beneath, and....honestly, he was pushing through it.

And, he paid the price for all if when he fell from the sky. He paid the price for pushing through it the way he did.

I mean, he ****ing DIED.

There are inconsistencies with Kryptonite....EVERYWHERE. In the comics, in Smallville, in the Reeve movies, everywhere. Not just SR.

Ok.. but If some radioactive rock is deadly to superman as Lois says, shouldn't he usually show its deadly effects when he's close enough to it? I don't think we see this pain or struggle to fight this pain of kryptonite, no not until he's lifting the continent which is pretty painful to do itself I imagine.

lol, I thought we saw the pain it puts him through when he got stabbed with it, and even when Lois was pulling out the shiv he had stuck inside him.

Kryptonite not only hurts him, but it weakens him. Even at a distance, he pretty much loses his powers and becomes as weak as a small little girl. That's been eastablished.

With some more will power maybe he might have been able to bring himself back up to enough strength to defeat those humans? He could do it to shove a continent into space. If I were him, I'd have found the same strength to fight kryptonite enough to kill a few humans.

Well, for one....he doesn't kill.

And, another....he doesn't know karate. He doesn't know how to fight without his powers. He put up a fight, I think he even punched Lex once. But, he was surrounded, he was weak, and there are some things even will power cannot over come......like skill. He has no fighting skills. Batman, for example, can do something in a positon like that. He knows how to fight. Superman does not. C'mon.....do you know Superman?

 

[Galactical]

lol, I thought we saw the pain it puts him through when he got stabbed with it, and even when Lois was pulling out the shiv he had stuck inside him.

Kryptonite not only hurts him, but it weakens him. Even at a distance, he pretty much loses his powers and becomes as weak as a small little girl. That's been eastablished.



Well, for one....he doesn't kill.

And, another....he doesn't know karate. He doesn't know how to fight without his powers. He put up a fight, I think he even punched Lex once. But, he was surrounded, he was weak, and there are some things even will power cannot over come......like skill. He has no fighting skills. Batman, for example, can do something in a positon like that. He knows how to fight. Superman does not. C'mon.....do you know Superman?

I'm referring to before the stabbing. There's no sign of pain caused by the meteor rock, like you said superman has the will to struggle and fight against, whether it be embedded inthe krypton continent or in lex's pocket. I'm saying the kryptonite doesn't seem to be as deadly to him as lois suggests it is. It sucks his powers away but doesn't seem to cause any pain from what i observed. Even during the stabbing or shiv pulling is the pain from he kryptonite or it cutting through his body?

Supes, and his son even,kill in this movie though, yes. So I'd have done the same. Killing's no big deal to me if it rids the world of Kal Penn and some other bad guys.

Forget fighting skills, i'd just power myself up enough with my will power to blow those humans away with my super breath or heat vision.
and no I don't know superman or anything about him. I'm here for the free beer.