The Flash Box Office Thread

[Frodo]

Flash was more expensive. That's the difference

That's pretty much what I thought as well.

 

[GreenKToo]

If it were me, I'd do a Jay garrick film set in the mid to late 40's.

 

[BatLobster]

Them praising it, and it tanking are two different things.

Gunn can still think it's the greatest comic book movie ever. It's box office doesn't change that.

You're right, though at the same time, it does sort of make me raise an eyebrow in the sense that Gunn saying that felt like kind the new head of DC saying, "My finger is on the pulse of what audiences want from superhero movies, and THIS is it.". I know it's sort of his job now to be a cheerleader for the brand, but it still does strike me as a bit of a disconnect. It just feels like the whole thing was a big miscalculation.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Yeah as if it couldn’t get more embarrassing, now the film is an NFT.

THE FLASH WEB3 MOVIE EXPERIENCE

 

[Comicbookguy339]

The end of its box office run, pretty much.

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[Karelia]

Oddly enough, I feel the same way about both films. Both are average, have some really bad CGI, peppered in with some cool moments but both leading roles feel miscast (Reynolds to a much less degree) but both are so underwhelming compared to their comic book counterpart. So much wasted potential.

 

[samsnee]

I just laugh when thinking of all the “praise” this thing got early on. Just shows you can not trust early reviews.

 

[Silver Surfer]

Another thing that GL/Flash have in common is that they used the wrong iteration of the character IMO.

John/Kyle > Hal

Wally > Barry

 

[Frodo]

I just laugh when thinking of all the “praise” this thing got early on. Just shows you can not trust early reviews.

Yeah.

I certainly think future reports of " great test screenings " and enthusiastic early reviews by Geek pundits ,may be taken more with a grain of salt, in fandom at least , going forward.

The test screenings may go well, and positive early reviews from those in our sphere may be genuine , but that doesn't mean the film will connect with the GA .

 

[LoganPool]

That's not the only stat you need to know...

Domestically, Jim Caviezel's Sound of Freedom movie (currently at $96.1M), will end up grossing more than THE FLASH.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Still amazes me at how bad this did at the BO. All that pushback was for nothing lol

 

[GreenKToo]

We all saw this coming. The only ones who didn't see it were the suits @ WB.

What SHOULD have happened.
A pause. The controversy surrounding the lead was just too strong. The writing was already on the wall that it was gonna fail. Even Keaton couldn't save it.

After Gunn was hired, resume filming it, and even if some of it was already shot with Ezra, reshoot or redo those scenes with the new actor, but Keep Keaton as batman.

Put Gunn's Superman and Batman in it at the very end, when barry returns to his timeline we are introduced to the new heroes.

As much as it would have cost, I bet it still would have made more than what we got.

 

[kguillou]

That wouldnt have been feasible man, replacing Ezra is essentially refilming the entire movie. Ezra is in almost every scene of the movie. Then you're easily talking a movie who'se production cost would've been astronomical and it was already super expensive as is. It would have never broken even.

 

[MadVillainy]

That wouldnt have been feasible man, replacing Ezra is essentially refilming the entire movie. Ezra is in almost every scene of the movie. Then you're easily talking a movie who'se production cost would've been astronomical and it was already super expensive as is. It would have never broken even.

Yeah the whole "just reshoot the film" takes have always been silly.
The movie flopped legendarily. But going back to reshoot it would've doubled the budget which would've made it an even bigger flop.

And moving to to streaming would've been a bad move too financially.

Really what WB should've done is kick Miller to the curb after the Iceland incident. That happened in 2020 before filming in 2021. That would've been the smartest thing to do even business wise. Iceland was a first sign that they had issues. But nooooope they ignored that. Since they ignored that they really had no rational viable option other than press forward

That being said, even without Miller this was always doomed to disappoint. On top of Miller's stuff, the film was chastised for having back CG in the trailers, them announcing that Gunn was rebooting the universe, and DC's brand generally being in the toilet. Even if they cast say Jack Quaid or Glenn Powell as Barry this movie had a huge uphill battle to make back up it's inflated budget
EDIT: Even Grant Gustin. I've seen a good amount of people swearing up and down that casting Gustin as the big screen Flash would've been a huge hit as well which I don't think would've worked as well

 

[Invader Joker]

We all saw this coming. The only ones who didn't see it were the suits @ WB.

What SHOULD have happened.
A pause. The controversy surrounding the lead was just too strong. The writing was already on the wall that it was gonna fail. Even Keaton couldn't save it.

After Gunn was hired, resume filming it, and even if some of it was already shot with Ezra, reshoot or redo those scenes with the new actor, but Keep Keaton as batman.

Put Gunn's Superman and Batman in it at the very end, when barry returns to his timeline we are introduced to the new heroes.

As much as it would have cost, I bet it still would have made more than what we got.

The movie would've still flopped because it'd still have had Muschietti directing with his god-awful visuals that looked like a turn-off even in the trailers.

 

[Frodo]

[QUOTE="GreenKToo, post: 39112699, member: 32046"]We all saw this coming. The only ones who didn't see it were the suits @ WB.

What SHOULD have happened.
A pause. The controversy surrounding the lead was just too strong. The writing was already on the wall that it was gonna fail. Even Keaton couldn't save it.

After Gunn was hired, resume filming it, and even if some of it was already shot with Ezra, reshoot or redo those scenes with the new actor, but Keep Keaton as batman.

Put Gunn's Superman and Batman in it at the very end, when barry returns to his timeline we are introduced to the new heroes.

As much as it would have cost, I bet it still would have made more than what we got.[/QUOTE]

To be fair, everyone didn't see it coming.

Alot of fans bought into the hype that this film was gonna be " excellent ", and that the film was gonna be a hit, Ezra's problems ,aside.

There were also fans who were skeptical , of course, even on these boards.

But the Superbowl add was met with alot of praise and hype about the film in fandom.

If anything, I think the current regime probably had a better idea that things would go sideways , though , I doubt even they thought it would tank this badly.

I think the fans are more shocked by the film not connecting, than WBD is.

 

[Rick190293]

I think it was doomed forever (Ezra's behaviour, bad reception of his Flash and the overall DCEU, delays, reboot, etc) but yeah, didn't expected the flop. Although I loved the superbowl trailer, I found the movie very 'okay', unfortunately.

 

[Filmfan93]

Barbie just made the entire Flash's worldwide run AND an additional 70 million... In 2 days.

Just putting things into perspective on how bad the Flash did (considering both are WB projects).

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

Barbie just made the entire Flash's worldwide run AND an additional 70 million... In 2 days.

Just putting things into perspective on how bad the Flash did (considering both are WB projects).

That is tragic.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

WB are very lucky they had Barbie. They'll probably learn all the wrong lessons from it, but they needed this win.

 

[Iceman]

Barbie just made the entire Flash's worldwide run AND an additional 70 million... In 2 days.

Just putting things into perspective on how bad the Flash did (considering both are WB projects).

Crazy stuff. Flash was supposed to be so much bigger than Barbie

 

[The Overlord]

Crazy stuff. Flash was supposed to be so much bigger than Barbie

I don't know man, there was a lot of hype for Barbie before it was released, Mattel and WB marketed that film well and really it was different from all the superheroes that have been released in the last 10 years. They also hired a director and let her do whatever she wanted with Barbie, I don't think they did that with the Flash. I think you will see a thousand Barbie movies before you have another Flash movie.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

I think you will see a thousand Barbie movies before you have another Flash movie.

That, sadly, I can believe.