Revenge of the Fallen Transformers: ROTF Box Office Discussion

[miggizle85]

This brings up an interesting phenominon as I peruse the theatrical totals vis-a-vis how they did on DVD. Nobody expects TF2 to come anywhere near close to TDK's gross in theaters and the original TF movie did even less in theaters. However TF absolutely blasted TDK on DVD. Not even close.

Maybe using DVD sales as a barometer of how movies are received or worse, how their sequels will do is a bad idea. Otherwise TF2 would be beating Titanic theatrically.

That's true.

 

[kedrell]

I wasn't aware that IronMan had sold 8.9 million units. I was going by the number on this chart: http://www.the-numbers.com/dvd/charts/annual/2008.php

According to that, IronMan had sold 8.4 by then of 2008 and I figured another 200,000 in 2009 was a safe bet.

It's nice to see that so far IM has outsold Twilight. Although Twilight is still selling 50,000 a week and dropping slow so it's only going to get closer and unfortunately may pass it in about 3 months.

Yeah, that's likely. I still don't expect any Twighlight sequel to stand up to IM2's box office. Hell, IM1's box office would be a long shot.

 

[Sentinel X]

Jeebus!!

It looks like Ice Age 3 has a chance at beating TF2 worldwide when all is said and done. It probably even has a chance at being the number 1 film of the year. Who would've guessed? And why do people overseas like this movie so much?

 

[BlackLantern]

US animated films always manage to do well overseas...they like it

 

[rashad]

The race for Overseas Champ should be exciting. Ice Age 3 has already surpased ROTF overseas in over 2 weeks with $429 million. ROTF is at $396 million. And HP6 is at $237 million.

 

[Cmill216]

Jeebus!!

It looks like Ice Age 3 has a chance at beating TF2 worldwide when all is said and done. It probably even has a chance at being the number 1 film of the year.

It'll outgross TF2 foreign, but the domestic race isn't even close.

At this point, the only film that has a shot at beating TF2's domestic gross is Avatar, but that film is a question mark on top of a question mark. At this point, it's safe to say Revenge of the Fallen will be the highest grossing movie of the year.

 

[miggizle85]

I've said befre and I'll say it again. Overseas audience absolutley LOVE animated sequals and DreamWorks and Fox Animation LOVE making money off of it.

Pixar shows a lot of integrity by preferring to tell stories rather than pump out cash cow sequal after cash cow sequal but I think they've begun to realize how much money they're missing out on. Perhaps all the gargantuan international numbers for the Shrek, IceAge, and Madagascar sequals (and you can count on KungFu Panda, and Monsters v Aliens sequals too) are the main reason why Pixar has ToyStory3, and Cars 2 in the works. Also they've been considering Monster's Inc. and Finding Nemo sequals too.

Personally I wish Pixar would show some class and not give into the cash cow crappy sequal game that Fox and DreamWorks play but.... whatever. I mean if you're Pixar can you really afford to pass up all that money? Just look at IceAge3. It has $429,062,000 and counting. Hell it could even make up to $500 million overseas!

 

[LostSon88]

Cars 2 i'll give you...that's basically a result of the huge toy sales.

Toy Story 3 wasn't their choice per se as Disney said they were going to do one with or without Pixar (Disney owns the rights to the characters).

I'd rather have Pixar doing it (reluctantly) right than have Disney be in complete control.

 

[rashad]

Yeah I agree LostSon88. I think Disney is pushing for sequels more than Pixar.

 

[kedrell]

Funny, the one Pixar sequel everyone wants is the one we aren't hearing anything about. C'mon Bird, finish up your 1906 movie and then give us an Incredibles sequel.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

The race for Overseas Champ should be exciting. Ice Age 3 has already surpased ROTF overseas in over 2 weeks with $429 million. ROTF is at $396 million. And HP6 is at $237 million.

Harry Potter movie always do better in U.S. than they do overseas, don't they?

 

[kedrell]

Yeah, HP6 has always been the movie to beat this year in the overall WW totals. TF2 will get stomped there.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

It'll be interesting to see the dvd sales for TF and HP. TDK was huge at theatres, but the first TF movie sold a lot more dvds.

 

[kedrell]

There's probably variables there we're not aware of. Like the differences in marketing campaigns for DVD sales and all that, among other things.

 

[redfirebird2008]

There's probably variables there we're not aware of. Like the differences in marketing campaigns for DVD sales and all that, among other things.

Or the stock market crash and subsequent deep recession that hit right around September/October 2008.

 

[Sentinel X]

Harry Potter movie always do better in U.S. than they do overseas, don't they?

Its actually the EXACT opposite. HP does good (not great) in the US and AMAZING overseas.

I guess Ice Age is now one of those franchises too....so is James Bond.

 

[kedrell]

Or the stock market crash and subsequent deep recession that hit right around September/October 2008.

That too. But I was refering to more common variables. The market crash was a rather unique event that doesn't happen all the time.

 

[redfirebird2008]

That too. But I was refering to more common variables. The market crash was a rather unique event that doesn't happen all the time.

Another one, at least between TDK and Transformers, is that Transformers was not on sale digitally in 2007 when it came out. TDK was on sale digitally in 2008 when it came out. I'm not sure how many it sold on iTunes and such, but it was probably quite a few. No doubt those folks would have bought the DVD if the iTunes version wasn't around. Interestingly enough, TDK has recently been yanked from iTunes. And I noticed recently that Transformers was also yanked from iTunes after being on there for a while (although it was not on there at the time of its DVD release).

 

[miggizle85]

Oh-leee-chet!

Harry Pothead has $405 million overseas in just 2.5 weeks!!! Ice Age ain't too shabby either with $502 overseas million in 3.5 weeks.

I think Potter will ultimately win out both the International and worldwide crown for the year.

Ice Age has a chance to beat out Potter for the International total but not the worldwide total

Neither movie will be able to pass Transformers 2's $410 million U.S. take but Potter does have a chance to beat it for the yearly worldwide title.

Here are my predictions for those 3:
TF2 $410 million U.S., $430 million overseas, $840 million worldwide.
HP6 $280 million U.S., $670 million overseas, $950 million worldwide.
IA3 $205 million U.S., $555 million overseas, $760 million worldwide.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Its actually the EXACT opposite. HP does good (not great) in the US and AMAZING overseas.

I guess Ice Age is now one of those franchises too....so is James Bond.

OK. I wasn't sure. I usually don't follw this box office crap.

 

[dark_b]

holly s... this movie made so much money that Bay will get 200% freedom on the third movie.

thats a big no.

 

[BlackLantern]

I read that Bay will have "I'm Awesome" carved in laser on the moon

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

For anyone who is interested ROTF looks like it will pass the $400 million mark domestically in the next few weeks.

 

[kedrell]

Hopefully it comes up short. If this movie can make 400M then 400M has ceased to be special.

 

[matrix_ghost]

Hopefully it comes up short. If this movie can make 400M then 400M has ceased to be special.

It'll either hit that mark this weekend or somehwere midway next week
Right now the domestic total is $399,575,659

The last 3 weekends it's made

Aug 14–16 15 $1,604,523
Aug 21–23 16 $970,360
Aug 28–30 20 $575,531

And the 400 million mark became less special because pretty much every movie nowadays hits that mark.

2002 SPiderman
2004 Shrek 2
2006 POTC 2
2008 The Dark Knight
2009 Revenge Of the Fallen