Horror The Halloween Film Series Thread... - Part 4

[Mani-Man]

I really have no preferred timeline. I enjoy them all for different reasons. Just depends on my mood.

Pretty much.
You got all kinds of ways you can enjoy or laugh at the Series.

Sometimes im in the mood for the Edgy bad Rob zombie ones, then another time i want the whole thorn weirdness etc.

 

[Drizzle]

Thorn Trilogy supremacists exist on the internet. Because every fandom has their weirdos.

I guess the upside to those is you get more Loomis. I've seen a good deal of 4-6 but none of them start to finish, and only on cable TV where it was edited, same with 3. So I guess I'm due for a Thorn Trilogy binge one of these days but I only have so much gas left in the tank for franchises after my Jason/Freddy Cinematic Universe binge this year.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Yes, Donald Pleasance is pretty wonderful in those sequels (well 6 he’s hardly there). His unhinged obsessiveness cranked to 11 really works, and just so entraining to watch.

And he’s still the best Blofeld (sorry not sorry). At least the most iconic (thanks Dr. Evil).

 

[Kane52630]

Thorn Trilogy supremacists exist on the internet. Because every fandom has their weirdos.

 

[Sawyer]

And he’s still the best Blofeld (sorry not sorry). At least the most iconic (thanks Dr. Evil).

Well, I mean, he doesn’t really have much competition there. It’s either him, Telly Savalas kind of just doing a more nefarious Telly Savalas, the Diamonds are Forever guy doing a decent enough job in a terrible movie, or Christoph Waltz with the unnecessary sibling twist.

 

[Drizzle]

Well, I mean, he doesn’t really have much competition there. It’s either him, Telly Savalas kind of just doing a more nefarious Telly Savalas, the Diamonds are Forever guy doing a decent enough job in a terrible movie, or Christoph Waltz with the unnecessary sibling twist.

Waltz also felt like he was phoning it in, at least in Spectre. He was better in No Time to Die but he was in it so little.

 

[DyeLorean]

Christoph Waltz hasn't done anything that I like besides Inglourious Basterds. I always feel like he's doing variations of that same character in different movies.

 

[Drizzle]

Christoph Waltz hasn't done anything that I like besides Inglourious Basterds. I always feel like he's doing variations of that same character in different movies.

There's no question he's a great actor. Obviously he's got two Oscars to prove it. But of everything I've seen him in, which is largely just his more mainstream stuff like Spectre and Alita, he's fine but it's like he really only puts the extra effort in for Tarantino.


Anyway, to bring things back on topic, now that I've seen all the Elm Street and Friday the 13th movies, I've gotta say Halloween is the superior franchise.

 

[DyeLorean]

Anyway, to bring things back on topic, now that I've seen all the Elm Street and Friday the 13th movies, I've gotta say Halloween is the superior franchise.

Really? Oh interesting.
I can agree that the Halloween franchise (for the most part) has better..."movies" (for lack of a better word) but the Friday the 13th ones are more rewatchable, in a campy kind of way.
Scream for me is the ultimate champion though. No weird tangents, no alternate storylines, just one straighforward narrative with no weak links.

 

[Drizzle]

Really? Oh interesting.
I can agree that the Halloween franchise (for the most part) has better..."movies" (for lack of a better word) but the Friday the 13th ones are more rewatchable, in a campy kind of way.
Scream for me is the ultimate champion though. No weird tangents, no alternate storylines, just one straighforward narrative with no weak links.

Actually you bring up a good point. The Scream franchise definitely has the most good movies. 3 is the worst IMO but even then it's practically Oscar worthy compared to some of the worst from the other franchises. I just separate Scream from Halloween, Friday the 13th and Elm Street because those have more constant (and supernatural) main antagonists while it's a different Ghostface every time in the Scream movies.

 

[DyeLorean]

I just separate Scream from Halloween, Friday the 13th and Elm Street because those have more constant (and supernatural) main antagonists while it's a different Ghostface every time in the Scream movies.

Sure, yes yes. But as far as "horror franchises with a killer in an iconic/recognizable mask or face" Scream definitely belongs there. Halloween, Friday, Elm, Chucky, Scream, Texas Chainsaw and I'd argue Terrifier now is the latest that has a significant chance of being added to the (short) list.

 

[Pittman4Two]

Anyone read the Dennis Etchison script for Halloween 4?

Had Tommy Doyle and Lindsay Wallis as teens, and The Shape as a ghost like figure (who gets bigger as he was shot by cops, ala Ang Lee's Hulk). This is how John Carpenter was going to bring Michael back after Halloween III bombed.

Part of me believes Carpenter was trolling and this was his way of getting himself removed from the franchise. Scary that it was almost greenlit.

There's no way the director of the original was seriously contemplating writing Myers like this. He was frustrated with the series and wanted nothing to do with it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

My rankings for the Halloween flicks:

1. Ends
2. Kills
3. II (09)
4. Halloween (18)
5. Halloween (78)
6. II (81)
7. Witch
8. Return
9. Halloween (07)
10. Curse
11. H20
12. Revenge
13. Resurrection

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Part of me believes Carpenter was trolling and this was his way of getting himself removed from the franchise. Scary that it was almost greenlit.

There's no way the director of the original was seriously contemplating writing Myers like this. He was frustrated with the series and wanted nothing to do with it.

And I have no idea how Canon Films was going to be able to make that script work.

 

[Kane52630]

My rankings for the Halloween flicks:

1. Ends
2. Kills
3. II (09)
4. Halloween (18)
5. Halloween (78)
6. II (81)
7. Witch
8. Return
9. Halloween (07)
10. Curse
11. H20
12. Revenge
13. Resurrection

 

[Pittman4Two]

And I have no idea how Canon Films was going to be able to make that script work.

Somehow the idea came to fruition in another Carpenter film:

 

[Pittman4Two]

In the spirit of the season, I'll post my ranking as well:

1. H78
2. H2 (81)
3. H18
4. H4
5. H20
6. HK
7. H6
8. HIII
9. HE
10. H5
11. HR
12. RZH
13. RZH2

 

[Drizzle]

Y'all are really trying to goad me into a Halloween marathon before next Friday, aren't you?

But only the Thorn timeline. Plus III. And maybe 18, Kills and Ends as the "let me go back and choose a different ending" if I'm up for it.

 

[Sawyer]

Y'all are really trying to goad me into a Halloween marathon before next Friday, aren't you?

But only the Thorn timeline. Plus III. And maybe 18, Kills and Ends as the "let me go back and choose a different ending" if I'm up for it.

You’ll watch Resurrection, and you’ll like it!

 

[Sawyer]

My rankings for the Halloween flicks:

1. Ends
2. Kills
3. II (09)
4. Halloween (18)
5. Halloween (78)
6. II (81)
7. Witch
8. Return
9. Halloween (07)
10. Curse
11. H20
12. Revenge
13. Resurrection

1978 fifth on a best Halloween list?

Prison.

 

[Drizzle]

You’ll watch Resurrection, and you’ll like it!

That timeline ended with H20.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

1978 fifth on a best Halloween list?

Prison.

 

[Man in the Suit]

My rankings for the Halloween flicks:

1. Ends
2. Kills
3. II (09)
4. Halloween (18)
5. Halloween (78)
6. II (81)
7. Witch
8. Return
9. Halloween (07)
10. Curse
11. H20
12. Revenge
13. Resurrection

 

[DyeLorean]

Halloween '78 and Halloween Ends share the same DNA in a way most of the other sequels don't.
Is not a rehash of the original all over again (I'm looking at you, Halloween '18), and it's not a 90's Scream wanna be (I'm looking at you, H20). Not to mention all the other crap in between.

I won't explain further.

 

[Mani-Man]

I really need to make time one of these days and watch/read a few essays of people who like Ends.
Because im super curious in detail what people like about it, because i just dont see it.