The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Hans Zimmer Score thread - Part 1

[AnneFan]

Speaking of context, what songs do you think will tie in with particular moments in the movie? Some are more obvious than others, can't figure out

Spoiler

Gwen's death and graduation speech

The following are my guesses.

Spoiler

'I'm Electro' - over the opening logos.
'There He Is' - A Peter Parker theme, perhaps
'I'm Spider-Man' - The main hero theme
'My Enemy' - Times Square scene
'Ground Rules' - Peter and Gwen discussing their relationship
'Look At Me' - Max's transformation
'Special Project' - Peter investigating his father's work
'You Need Me' - A feel good Peter/Gwen scene
'So Much Anger' - Main theme rendition during a hero moment
'I'm Moving to England' - self explanatory
'I'm Goblin' - Goblin's action theme, final fight
'Let Her Go' - Slow motion Gwen death sequence
'You're My Boy' - Recurring 'Ground Rules' theme, likely Peter/Gwen scene
'I Need To Know' - Not sure, maybe May/Peter related
'Sum Total - Goblin teaming up with Electro?
I think 'I Choose You' and 'We're Best Friends' will be Peter/Gwen material
'Still Crazy' - I'm thinking final fight material, near that segment of film
'The Rest of My Life - Gwen dead, Peter overlooking New York
'You're That Spider Guy - Rhino appears, Peter dons the mask and goes out to fight
'Cold War' - during the truck chase through the streets.
'No Place Like Home' - Could be an extension of the chase. It's actiony music.

I'm sure it will work dashingly in the film, every Zimmer score I've ever heard -even his lesser ones- tune up to the film perfectly.

Agreed. He's the maestro. t:

I remember listening to MOS's score over and over before seeing the fim, and having a huge grin on my face upon actually seeing it, even just with the opening title cards. It worked perfectly. I expect the same here.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Agreed

Although he should've put the damn Black Ship Escape music and Lois investigating music on the OST

 

[AnneFan]

I have to say - Within The Web (First Day Jam) is a revelation. Very good song.

Edit: Also take a look here - Scoring Spidey:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSCtJ9Feesw

 

[SM71]

So I tabbed it up, it looks like there's about between 55-65 minutes of film score on the soundtrack (someone should definitely check my math though - I included the entire 1st disc starting with 'I'm Electro' and 'Cold War' and 'No Place Like Home' from the 2nd in my calculation). Does anyone think there's a decent chunk of score from the movie that's not included on the soundtrack? Or is the time discrepancy mostly due to the film's inclusion of licensed material and/or scenes unaccompanied by music? Just wonderin

 

[A Necessary Evil]

The movie is around 2 1/2 hours long, and this is a Zimmer release. So, yes, i'm sure there will be a ton of great music left off the CD, with some alternates in the film. But, like always, I'm sure the complete score will leak a few months after the film lol.

 

[SM71]

The movie is around 2 1/2 hours long, and this is a Zimmer release. So, yes, i'm sure there will be a ton of great music left off the CD, with some alternates in the film. But, like always, I'm sure the complete score will leak a few months after the film lol.

Is it normal for film scores to leave that much composition of the OST? Do the writers/composers, director even, decide what they do/don't want to include? I never really understood how that worked

 

[SM71]

I know Hans and co. previously referred to this score as an 'Opera.' Could the omission of certain pieces be to give the OST more of a naturally flowing, operatic feel? Instead of sounding slightly more disjointed by including all the varying pieces of music actually featured in the movie?

 

[SpideyK]

The movie is around 2 1/2 hours long, and this is a Zimmer release. So, yes, i'm sure there will be a ton of great music left off the CD, with some alternates in the film. But, like always, I'm sure the complete score will leak a few months after the film lol.

I hate when they don't include all of it on the OST.

A LOT of Zimmer stuff from the trailers isn't on the OST, so I'm hoping it'll at least be in the movie.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Not sure if this has been mentioned on here before but I was reading a short fan-blog review of the movie and they talked about how the music is synced up with Electro's bolt attacks. I can't wait to hear stuff like this and just the mix in general. I haven't listened to the tracks yet, I'm still waiting for the 22nd when the CD drops in retail. But I'm glad so many people seem to be high on the score right now. Gives me hope this will be good.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Is it normal for film scores to leave that much composition of the OST? Do the writers/composers, director even, decide what they do/don't want to include? I never really understood how that worked

Composers get a say on what they want on the album, but it really boils down to how much the record company putting out the OST wants to pay reuse fees for an orchestra.

Now, sometimes you get lucky, and you'll get a double disc or 78 minute CD (as CDs can only hold 80 minutes of music), and other times you get screwed and wind up with 45 minutes of music in a film that could have 2 hours+of music written for it (or even music that wasn't even in the movie, or different than what you hear in the movie.) Batman Begins, for example, had a 60 minute OST, but if you hear the recording sessions, there's over 3 hours of music written for it. Hans wrote 10 hours worth of variation for Joker's theme in TDK, but you only hear the final theme he wrote. I bet TASM2 would have had over two hours of score if we didn't have the stupid songs on CD2.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

Not sure if this has been mentioned on here before but I was reading a short fan-blog review of the movie and they talked about how the music is synced up with Electro's bolt attacks. I can't wait to hear stuff like this and just the mix in general. I haven't listened to the tracks yet, I'm still waiting for the 22nd when the CD drops in retail. But I'm glad so many people seem to be high on the score right now. Gives me hope this will be good.

Ah. I knew it. Not gonna lie, that's what I'm worried about. That the music and actual bolt sound fx will clash and become one sound?
I'd rather much hear the bolts and what they sound like by themselves. I have no problem with them syncing with one another, just would want the bolt sound louder.

Also, anybody notice that weird scream with Electro?
Go to the clip with Spidey trying to talk with him at TS, and Electro freaks because a cop shoots him, and the score kicks in with what I assume is Electro screaming and it's a very cartoon, kiddy like sounding voice. It's kinda lame. Honestly it reminds me of the Power Rangers game for sega genesis. There are voices in that game that sound just like it. And if I'm not mistaken, when I was listening to the score last week, I heard that same voice in one of the tracks.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

BTW, Deshi Basarah has a instrumental cameo at 1:01-1:10 in there he is.

 

[Avenging Spidey]

The standard edition of the soundtrack features most (though not all) of the cues mentioned above plus various songs; the deluxe edition features the programme reviewed above and then a whole second disc, featuring all the songs (to be honest, the only one of which does anything for me is “Here” by Pharrell Williams), a couple of Zimmer’s trademark lengthy suites ((“The Electro Suite” and “Harry’s Suite”), a couple more score tracks (hardcore action in “Cold War”, a more epic feel in “No Place Like Home”), what’s labelled as a “First Day Jam” and a remix of the Electro theme.

I’ve said before that while sometimes I love what he does and sometimes I hate it, I always admire Hans Zimmer when he tries something genuinely different. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is genuinely different. As regular readers will know, I am a huge fan of James Horner and so was very disappointed that he was not returning, especially since I hadn’t particularly enjoyed Zimmer’s music for Batman and had thoroughly disliked his Superman. I am therefore truly surprised by how impressive his Spider-Man music is. I have no doubt that it will prove as polarising as ever; some people simply won’t like some of the stylistic choices, others will struggle with the contrast with Horner’s blisteringly good score for the previous film. Some will love it, some will hate it. I love it – the first disc provides an hour of music that features some of the composer’s most creative writing in a number of years and works brilliantly as a listening experience, that contrast between the (somewhat) traditional approach for Spider-Man and the brutally modern approach for Electro proving truly compelling. There’s an excellent dramatic architecture, real musical storytelling if you will. If you’d said to me while I was first listening to The Amazing Spider-Man back in 2012 (and writing about how much I hoped it might mark a return to a more traditional approach in general to these films) that two years later the sequel would come out and be scored by Hans Zimmer with dubstep, I’d probably have punched you in the face (well, if I weren’t the world’s most mild-mannered individual, anyway). I guess others will feel the same way. But open your mind to it: it’s dazzling stuff.

Rating: ****

I'm excited to hear it once I've seen the film. Can't thwipping wait!!
Source: http://www.movie-wave.net/the-amazing-spider-man-2/

 

[MahvelBaby!]

I wanna hear!

 

[Em Dee]

Speaking of context, what songs do you think will tie in with particular moments in the movie? Some are more obvious than others, can't figure out

Spoiler

Gwen's death and graduation speech

I'm Electro- Obviously Electro's theme.
There He Is- First Peter scene?
I'm Spider-Man- Spidey's theme
My Enemy- Times Square Battle
Ground Rules- Peter an Gwen in union square
Look at Me- Sequence after Max gets his powers where he is showing off in Times Square
Special Project- Harry researching
You Need Me- Harry talks to Electro in Ravencroft
So Much Anger- Electro And Harry escape from Ravencroft
I'm Moving To England- scene in the embassy.
I'm Goblin- goblin transformation, Oscorp breakout, chase scene, final fight
Let Her Go- Gwen's death
You're My Boy- May and Peter scene
I Need To Know- Peter gathering stuff about his parents.
Sum Total- Peter finds out about Richards studies, etc.
I Chose You- Before Gwen leaves for England, Spidey picked her up and they go ontop of the bridge. Probably last calm moment of the film.
We're Best Friends- Emotional Peter and Harry scene?
Still Crazy- Final electro battle
The Rest Of My Life- Gwen's funeral + aftermath
You're That Spider Guy- Final scenes of the film where Peter realizes New York needs him desperately, and rhino battle.
Cold War- Aleski car chase
No Place Like Home- No idea

 

[Em Dee]

I'm sure it will work dashingly in the film, every Zimmer score I've ever heard -even his lesser ones- tune up to the film perfectly.

Hey ANE, you're still seeing the film right? If so do you think there's any chance that it could blow you away?

 

[Perry9]

A great review of the OST from an IMDB member. I don't know of this has been posted. I posted this in the lounge thread as well.



"Having had a chance to acquire and listen to most of the TASM2 OST (which I will buy when it officially releases), I have to say that while not all of Zimmer's musical experimentation works, there are alot of great tracks on here.

The major ones that impressed me were:

You Need Me - A very catchy track with lots of heart.

My Enemy - There are so many layers going on here with very intriguing musical cues that when paired with the rumors of the music actually playing a physical part in the scenes, make for a very strong and raw theme that breathes the schizophrenic nature of Electro in this film.

Still Crazy - Great song that gets you pumped that the villain (Harry? theme plays off of Harry's Goblin musical cues and Electro's musical cues) is still around and going to return.

I'm Goblin - There is such a dark disturbing nature to this track that evokes alot of the eerie vibes implemented for the Joker's themes in The Dark Knight. And brings a horror vibe to The Goblin that we never truly got before on film.

We're Best Friends - Just... amazing (and honestly sounds too romantic to be about Peter and Harry. I'm fairly certain it's about Peter and Gwen)

The Rest Of My Life/I Chose You (these play off similar motifs) - The emotion in both of these tracks.... the feels...

You're That Spider Guy - Most definitely the final track of the film, and leads straight into "It's On Again" when the credits hit. And thinking of these two as one big track actually makes it a much stronger piece, with It's On Again working quite well actually.

Overall it's a very strong thematic score that has so much cinematic potential with the visuals on screen. This truly is Zimmer trying to do something different from what he's done before, so going in expecting the same thing as his usual booming brass and familiar melodic cues from TDK/MOS/Inception may leave you disappointed. But with all the complaints of Hans Zimmer constantly rehashing his scores, you'd think people wouldn't have the complaint "this doesn't sound like Zimmer." This is Zimmer back to the days when all of his scores were diverse (Lion King anyone?), the ones that surprise you that he created because we've been so conditioned to his "new stuff".

In fact, in many ways it evokes some of feel of the 90's TAS OST, Spectacular Spider-Man OST, and the MTV TNAS OST, which ultimately boils down to modern, fun, electronic, emotional, and raw in some places.

To sum everything up. While there are a few strange choices that came through in this very experimental score, Hans Zimmer, Pharrell, and The Magnificent Six ultimately deliver in a score that is very unique and enthralling."

 

[LoserJBo]

The movie is around 2 1/2 hours long, and this is a Zimmer release. So, yes, i'm sure there will be a ton of great music left off the CD, with some alternates in the film. But, like always, I'm sure the complete score will leak a few months after the film lol.

One example right away of a score sample already being left off of the soundtrack is the clip with Peter and Gwen talking in the closet before the elevator scene. The spidey theme that plays when Peter webs the coffee cup seems to be missing on the score. I wanted to hear it in full. If I am wrong then please let me know what song it is in.

 

[LoserJBo]

Also when Mark mentioned that Rhino is only in the movie for 4 minutes anybody notice that in the last song, You're That Spider Guy, the part where the guitars kick in for the obvious Rhino threat it is exactly four minutes from the end of the song? Meaning I think the Rhino is threatening the city and bullying the little kid dressed as Spidey and the slow part after that is Peter deciding the city needs him and he has to be Spider-Man and so he puts on the costume and the Spidey Theme kicks in when he swings to rescue the little kid and banters with the Rhino and the final Rhino theme kicks in as Spidey actually battles the Rhino with the manhole. Cut to credits and then It's On Again starts.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Hey ANE, you're still seeing the film right? If so do you think there's any chance that it could blow you away?

I am seeing the film, maybe not opening day, but soon after. If you mean the film blowing me away, there's a very low chance of it (I'm not particularly looking forward to it, it looks poor to me. ), but anything is possible in this day and age. If it does, this forum will be the first to know. But I can't lie, my expectations are rock bottom. If you mean the score, then yes! It already has lol. Still not as good as Chris Young's in SM3, or even Elfman's/Horner's. But still great and very hummable.

One example right away of a score sample already being left off of the soundtrack is the clip with Peter and Gwen talking in the closet before the elevator scene. The spidey theme that plays when Peter webs the coffee cup seems to be missing on the score. I wanted to hear it in full. If I am wrong then please let me know what song it is in.

I've only seen a little footage, but I don't remember the music in that scene. It probably is, wasn't it only a minute or so long?

 

[hobbitbox]

Spidey's theme in "You're That Spider Guy"..... There are no words....

 

[Perry9]

Spidey's theme in "You're That Spider Guy"..... There are no words....

"You're that Spider Guy" gave me goosebumps. Such a wonderful piece of art.

 

[hobbitbox]

"You're that Spider Guy" gave me goosebumps. Such a wonderful piece of art.

Agreed! I'm gonna try not to listen to it again until after I see the film, that way it still feels fresh, but it's so tempting... haha

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Throw on a Spider-Man game, go webslinging, and listen to I need to know.


No thanks necessary, guys. #hailhydra

 

[SpideyK]

Also, anybody notice that weird scream with Electro?
Go to the clip with Spidey trying to talk with him at TS, and Electro freaks because a cop shoots him, and the score kicks in with what I assume is Electro screaming and it's a very cartoon, kiddy like sounding voice. It's kinda lame. Honestly it reminds me of the Power Rangers game for sega genesis. There are voices in that game that sound just like it. And if I'm not mistaken, when I was listening to the score last week, I heard that same voice in one of the tracks.

You mean that "aaaaaaah!!!", when he shoots the bolt at the sniper?

Yeeah, it's a little out of place...