The Incredible Hulk CGI Thread

[WalterKovacs]

As far as the 2003 Hulk goes, I will say that he looked incredibly realistic & the CGI made me feel as if the Hulk were actually real. I didn't like how his facial features constantly changed & how on some parts he looked chubby & not bulky but for the most part he looked pretty great. The major thing about this Hulk was that he looked too human. Now, as far as the 2008 Hulk is concerned, right now the only bad thing about this version is that it isn't completely finished. Other than that, everything is perfect. He's ripped, he's not too tall, he looks like an actual monster, etc. I look forward to this Hulk & if the CGI can match or surpass the CGI from 2003's Hulk movie, I'll be very happy.

i think that's a bad shot of him. or at leasti hope. i dont want him to be like this:

but i do want him to look muscular. however, im not liking the popeye look, with the obscenely and out of-proporton lower arms.

but im just being nitpicky.

the new designs looks like definitive hulk.

 

[Golgo-13]

^WTF!

 

[Weadazoid]

I'm just glad nothing this bad will appear in TIH...

I like many shot of the ANg Hulk...admitedly this is bad



His head is ginormous yo....and it get bigger plus the expression on his face and the set up looks to be very...well



Three Stooges come to mind.







The best shots of the Ang Hulk for me

are the shot of him getting up and his shoulder healing after the tank shrapnel catches him the fleshy part of the muscle.


Him getting hit with Bullets after the Talbot House bust up thing. I actualy dug the growth there...but Ang took it to far, it could have been more subtle


Finally the peek is the shot of him just as Betty comes running down the steps at the films climax. He is perfect as is the transformation back to Banner.



I hope LL makes the Hulk get Bulkier and more bristling with muscle as he gets madder.... it works much better for a film idea then overall proportional growth.

 

[Gamma Ra]

Ah, I see. I think the one thing this new Hulk design has going for it in my opinion is that it's alot darker in color. He looks a little scarier, as though he is pure rage made flesh, moreso than ILM's Hulk. Can't wait to see the finished product.

That and I like that the new Hulk is ridiculously ripped. Extremely detailed muscle definition. Beautiful.

 

[Breck]

Is it just me, or does this 2003 Hulk like more effectively 3d then the new one?

If you're basing your opinion on the image in the post you quoted, then it's not a fair comparison. The pic of the new Hulk is low-res, blurry, and overly compressed, whereas the old Hulk pic is hi-res, uncompressed, and in sharp focus. In fact, that old Hulk pic is probably a marketing render and not from the actual movie. I remember seeing that picture printed as a high-quality full page spread in a magazine, which is impossible if it came directly from the movie.

To illustrate my point:

Which one looks better?

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

I think the more appropriate question for the time being is which design do we prefer?

Well, let me see, in order to answer this quastion I need to compare and contrast the CGI Hulk creations from both movies by doing a visual comparison and critique of two still images I've come across in these forums of the Hulk in Level 10 enraged mode.

ILM Hulk angry

Okay, yes he does look just a bit pissed off, but in my observation he looks pretty cartoonish what with the bright green hue of the skin that's almost too bright to look like flesh of a natural green tone. It looks a little bit on the plastic side as well making it look not as authentically real as it could have looked. Plus the face is a little pudgy, being too round instead of elongated and ovular,almost like his cheeks were made of puffer fish, that detracts from the facial features rendering him looking comically angry.

Rhythm and Hues Hulk angry

I have to say that the deeper, less fluorescent green hue is much more realistic than a vividly bright green color choice. What's most striking at this early stage of development is the detailing of the veins popping out on the body. Also, the face is a little trimmer and less bloated looking which gives the design better proportions than ILM's creation. There is a bit of sheen to the skin making it look a little plastic looking, but with further tinkering this could be improved, perhaps add droplets of sweat to give a reason for the shininess. They could also examine the Lou Ferrigno Hulk to see what a green hue on real skin would look like in various lighting conditions. All in all it's good effort. It just needs more detail work.

So, in conclusion based upon my analysis I have to say I'm leaning towards the new Hulk design. But only seeing the finished FX in the completed movie will resolutely cement my decision.

 

[The Joker_1000]

He has veins that make it look as if his muscles are going to pop which I've wanted to see since I heard this movie was announced.

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

He has veins that make it look as if his muscles are going to pop which I've wanted to see since I heard this movie was announced.

Yes! This is what I think I mentioned in my critique. The fact that the preliminary animation for the new Hulk design shows this sort of detail with very visible veins instead of smooth skin bodes well. I just cannot wait to see the finished product up on the big screen. That will be the litmus test because on a theater's screen the details will be more prominent than on a little computer screen.

Notice how smooth the skin is on this shot of a rampaging ILM Hulk?

*Note: This is a finished CGI still from the 2003 movie. Compare it to that unfinished shot of Hulk from the new movie.*

 

[EmeraldBeast]

Are you guys comparing the finished product with the trailer because that is unfair. To be fair, compare the Hulk trailer with the Ang Lee trailer. By the way, I am a fan of the Ang Lee movie but really to compare the two at this stage is not right.

Compare Lee's Super Bowl shot and this trailer and there is no comparison. Not once did you hear or read "shrek". LOL. Now what I noticed after watching the trailer over and over was the Hulk kinda did the loosening up movement getting ready for a fight. Check out the trailer again and watch the first movement. It was like a boxer getting ready to rumble. Kinda funny I didn't pick that up before.

 

[Scooter]

The one on the right.

 

[Scooter]

Don't even know how to respond to this, so I'll just leave it with a smilely.

You could have at least used the Hulk smiley. That seems more board-appropriate.

 

[Scooter]

But would it be fair to say that this movie is a reboot, so The Hulk himself is a completely different realisation of the character, so there's no reason to make a comparison in the first place?

No one said anything about a fair comparison, or even a relevant comparison. Just a comparison.

But, more specifically, the main undercurrent of this thread is based on the CG effects, and how "real" they look. So even thought the designs may be completely different, the digital artists must convey the same types of things: eyes, muscles, skin, etc.

 

[Gamma Ra]

Well, let me see, in order to answer this quastion I need to compare and contrast the CGI Hulk creations from both movies by doing a visual comparison and critique of two still images I've come across in these forums of the Hulk in Level 10 enraged mode.

ILM Hulk angry

Okay, yes he does look just a bit pissed off, but in my observation he looks pretty cartoonish what with the bright green hue of the skin that's almost too bright to look like flesh of a natural green tone. It looks a little bit on the plastic side as well making it look not as authentically real as it could have looked. Plus the face is a little pudgy, being too round instead of elongated and ovular,almost like his cheeks were made of puffer fish, that detracts from the facial features rendering him looking comically angry.

Rhythm and Hues Hulk angry

I have to say that the deeper, less fluorescent green hue is much more realistic than a vividly bright green color choice. What's most striking at this early stage of development is the detailing of the veins popping out on the body. Also, the face is a little trimmer and less bloated looking which gives the design better proportions than ILM's creation. There is a bit of sheen to the skin making it look a little plastic looking, but with further tinkering this could be improved, perhaps add droplets of sweat to give a reason for the shininess. They could also examine the Lou Ferrigno Hulk to see what a green hue on real skin would look like in various lighting conditions. All in all it's good effort. It just needs more detail work.

So, in conclusion based upon my analysis I have to say I'm leaning towards the new Hulk design. But only seeing the finished FX in the completed movie will resolutely cement my decision.

Agreed!

He has veins that make it look as if his muscles are going to pop which I've wanted to see since I heard this movie was announced.

And Agreed!

 

[samsnee]

First, the topic title needs to change. Ang Lee may have had input in the look of his Hulk, but Ed Norton as far as I know, did not. Leterrier did. Norton helped write the script.

Second, I posted this in the trailer thread, but if 2003 Hulk looked like he did in the one shot below, I think I would have liked it better.

 

[EmeraldBeast]

Are you kidding me people? Just compare a finished daylight rendering to the night time shot which is still unfinished. Who looks more like the Hulk? Nuff said.

 

[Shivsguy616]

To illustrate my point:

Which one looks better?

Old Hulk. But new hulk isn't finished, so it is unfair to judge.

 

[EmeraldBeast]

Old Hulk. But new hulk isn't finished, so it is unfair to judge.

My point exactly. Check this out.

 

[The Joker_1000]

The face on the new Hulk is much more monstrous & is definitely the better version.

 

[TheBeastWithin]

The face on the new Hulk is much more monstrous & is definitely the better version.

Absolutely.

 

[EmeraldBeast]

The face on the new Hulk is much more monstrous & is definitely the better version.

Even the video game will look better rendered than Ang Lee's Hulk, just not photo realistic.
Look:

 

[The Kid]

I love all the objective responses here.

 

[The Joker_1000]

First, the topic title needs to change. Ang Lee may have had input in the look of his Hulk, but Ed Norton as far as I know, did not. Leterrier did. Norton helped write the script.

Second, I posted this in the trailer thread, but if 2003 Hulk looked like he did in the one shot below, I think I would have liked it better.

If the Hulk looked something like this for the entire movie & his facial features didn't change, this version would've been much better.

 

[Shivsguy616]

The face on the new Hulk is much more monstrous & is definitely the better version.

Dar leatsa féin.

 

[terry78]

The new Hulk says, "I gonna eat ur baby."

 

[Breck]

Old Hulk. But new hulk isn't finished, so it is unfair to judge.

I'll have some of what you and Scooter are smoking.