The Iran Thread

[Tron5000]

that's awesome... the man is running for president, with little more than this war that he so wholeheartedly supports as his main selling point, and he can't even get that right.

he's honestly just banking on the fact that everyone who voted for bush, and still supports him will see him as 'the next best thing' and vote for him because he's the only one who won't pull out.

yay! 4-8 more years of the same old crap!

It's not "4 more years of the same old crap." McCain is a war hero, has carved his own niche in the political spectrum in his 40 years of public service, and has butted heads with Bush on a great deal of issues, both during the 2000 election and in the 8 years that Bush has occupied the Oval Office.

The 2 men differ greatly. To equate them to one another both marginalizes McCain's beliefs and adds credence to those of Bush.

 

[Mr. Credible]

It's not "4 more years of the same old crap." McCain is a war hero, has carved his own niche in the political spectrum in his 40 years of public service, and has butted heads with Bush on a great deal of issues, both during the 2000 election and in the 8 years that Bush has occupied the Oval Office.

The 2 men differ greatly. To equate them to one another both marginalizes McCain's beliefs and adds credence to those of Bush.

mark my words: if mccain gets elected, nothing will change. gas prices will steadily rise, the economy will steadily fall, we'll spend another trillion dollars a year that we don't have on this pointless war, the rich will get tax breaks while average joe will take it up the pooper, and so on and so forth.

bush and mccain may differ on a few small points, but not nearly enough to make any kind of difference.

 

[rdh007]

It's not "4 more years of the same old crap." McCain is a war hero, has carved his own niche in the political spectrum in his 40 years of public service, and has butted heads with Bush on a great deal of issues, both during the 2000 election and in the 8 years that Bush has occupied the Oval Office.

The 2 men differ greatly. To equate them to one another both marginalizes McCain's beliefs and adds credence to those of Bush.

But McCain's bent over and played the party line for the last six years, saying that Bush is great. (Or all but saying that) His maverick status is lost.

Additionally, he's spent the primary more or less promising more of the same.

All in all, McCain 2008 sucks. I voted for the guy in our primary in 2000 because I thought he'd make a good adversary for Gore and I'd actually have to decide when I entered the voting booth. That is no longer the case.

 

[Tron5000]

mark my words: if mccain gets elected, nothing will change. gas prices will steadily rise, the economy will steadily fall, we'll spend another trillion dollars a year that we don't have on this pointless war, the rich will get tax breaks while average joe will take it up the pooper, and so on and so forth.

bush and mccain may differ on a few small points, but not nearly enough to make any kind of difference.

"The rich" are the people who supply jobs to this country. You ever been offered a job by a poor dude?

Gas prices rise muuuuuuuch slower than do the prices of most consumer products (due to inflation). We should consider ourselves lucky that gas is not more expensive than it is.

The economy will be fine. A free-market economy will always fix itself. Don't be confused; our country is not currently experiencing a recession, it is going through a market correction. Big difference between the two.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

You guys are acting like McCain is crazy and senile. He is far up in age (comparing him to previous presidents), but the man has his faculties about him. It's not like dude has Alzheimer's or anything.

yeah, you guys are just exaggerating, and if we have learned anything from these past elections is that exaggeration has no place in politics!

 

[Superman4ever]

You guys are acting like McCain is crazy and senile. He is far up in age (comparing him to previous presidents), but the man has his faculties about him. It's not like dude has Alzheimer's or anything.

I'm not saying he's senile and lost all his facilities. Not at all! He's all up there, mostly, he's got all his marbles; every insane Joker-est, nitro-filled sphere just waiting to cater, it seems, as of late, to a war hawk agenda.

yeah, you guys are just exaggerating, and if we have learned anything from these past elections is that exaggeration has no place in politics!

Soowy...

 

[Super_Ludacris]

You see kids.

As much as the problems for the democrats pile up, the republichumps always top the malarky in one fail swoop.

Take the pills grandpa.

 

[jaguarr]

mark my words: if mccain gets elected, nothing will change. gas prices will steadily rise, the economy will steadily fall, we'll spend another trillion dollars a year that we don't have on this pointless war, the rich will get tax breaks while average joe will take it up the pooper, and so on and so forth.

bush and mccain may differ on a few small points, but not nearly enough to make any kind of difference.

That's not entirely true. We'll also get a war with Iran if he's elected. BushCo started trying to find ways to justify a war with Iran, and now McCain is picking up the ball and running with it.

jag

 

[Excel]

Thing is...we hate war right now. no way congress lets him.

 

[jaguarr]

Thing is...we hate war right now. no way congress lets him.

Don't count on it. The neo-cons have already proven they're not above manufacturing evidence to justify invading a country and I see them laying the groundwork for all of that with Iran as we speak.

jag

 

[Superman4ever]

Don't count on it. The neo-cons have already proven they're not above manufacturing evidence to justify invading a country and I see them laying the groundwork for all of that with Iran as we speak.

jag

What are you talkin9 about, "manufactur1ng ev1dence"? What are you a terrorist? iRaan and Al Ka-iee-da are working together now.

BELIEVE IT!

 

[That'ssuper!]

With all due respect Matt, I like the tactic he's using now!

That and it's a misinterpretation. I think he may be confused that Iran is supplying weapons for insurgents in Iraq, associating it with being Al-Queda.

 

[Superman4ever]

That and it's a misinterpretation. I think he may be confused that Iran is supplying weapons for insurgents in Iraq, associating it with being Al-Queda.

What the hell are you talking about? BOTH versions are wrong.

Firstly, he said, 3 times (in 24 hours) that Iran was training Al Queda...so easy on the interpretations there Ms. Cleo.

Also, Iran wouldn't supply Al Queda anyways (this is an impossibility). They'd ONLY give weapons to the Shia (and considering Saudi Arabia is giving weapons to Sunnis it increases this impossibility). The Wahabis (Al Queda) want to destroy the Shia, all of them, so Iran supplying them would be ridiculous.

ANY claim of either should be met with equal fervor because they show just how stupid, misinformed and easily manipulated these "leaders" are. These are the idiots that are going to be answering the phone at 3AM?

 

[Showtime]

"I see an old man's sick joke."

 

[Backdrifter]

Don't count on it. The neo-cons have already proven they're not above manufacturing evidence to justify invading a country and I see them laying the groundwork for all of that with Iran as we speak.

jag

I am not for any kind of war, first off. But, with Iran you don't have to manufacture anything. They are most definitely building a nuclear weapon, funding Hamas and Hezbollah as well as verbally supporting their efforts. Iran one of the largest supporters of terrorism in the world. The UN has just passed another round of sanctions on the country for their ongoing behavior. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has made many damning remarks towards Israel, calling for its complete destruction. If there is a threat to our country and civilization as we know it is Iran.

 

[jaguarr]

I am not for any kind of war, first off. But, with Iran you don't have to manufacture anything. They are most definitely building a nuclear weapon, funding Hamas and Hezbollah as well as verbally supporting their efforts. Iran one of the largest supporters of terrorism in the world. The UN has just passed another round of sanctions on the country for their ongoing behavior. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has made many damning remarks towards Israel, calling for its complete destruction. If there is a threat to our country and civilization as we know it is Iran.

Sources?

jag

 

[StorminNorman]

What are you talkin9 about, "manufactur1ng ev1dence"? What are you a terrorist? iRaan and Al Ka-iee-da are working together now.

BELIEVE IT!

Please don't tell me you really think America executed 9/11

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Iran HATES Al Queda, Arabs, Taliban and Afghanistan oh and Iraq don't claim this ******** stuff to try and justify another invasion

 

[Backdrifter]

Sources?

jag

http://www.ncr-iran.org/content/view/4993/1/

http://www.ncr-iran.org/content/view/4787/123/

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3221901,00.html

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/07/18/news/iran.php

If you think Iran isn't a problem you are kidding yourself. The leaders of this country have time and again expressed their hatred for Israel and have called for its destruction. Ahmadinejad himself denies the holocaust ever took place. I don't want to spread hate, please understand. There are millions of innocent people involved here. However, its only going to take the actions of a few zealous political leaders to further destabilize the region. My only prayer for this area of the world is peace. But, we cannot sit here and pretend that Iran is not a problem.

 

[Superman4ever]

Please don't tell me you really think America executed 9/11

No idiot! I was referring to the 9/11-Iraqi/Saddam connection. Don't tell me you still believe that Iraq had something to do with 9/11!

Just to clairfy. Jag stated:

Don't count on it. The neo-cons have already proven they're not above manufacturing evidence to justify invading a country and I see them laying the groundwork for all of that with Iran as we speak.

jag

The "invading a country" bit was referring to Iraq. And so was I with that 9/11 remark. Manufacturing evidence (i.e. trying to connect Saddam and Iraq with September 11) to invade a country.

EDIT: Son of a *****...I changed it to how it was suppose to read!

What are you talkin9 about, "manufactur1ng ev1dence"? What are you a terrorist? iRaan and Al Ka-iee-da are working together now.

BELIEVE IT!

 

[jaguarr]

http://www.ncr-iran.org/content/view/4993/1/

http://www.ncr-iran.org/content/view/4787/123/

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3221901,00.html

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/07/18/news/iran.php

If you think Iran isn't a problem you are kidding yourself. The leaders of this country have time and again expressed their hatred for Israel and have called for its destruction. Ahmadinejad himself denies the holocaust ever took place. I don't want to spread hate, please understand. There are millions of innocent people involved here. However, its only going to take the actions of a few zealous political leaders to further destabilize the region. My only prayer for this area of the world is peace. But, we cannot sit here and pretend that Iran is not a problem.

The National Council Of Resistance Of Iran? Gee, that doesn't sound biased at all.

I'm not saying Iran isn't a problem, but good grief, let's not blow anything out of proportion or start parroting uber-biased info.

jag

jag

 

[Superman4ever]

The National Council Of Resistance Of Iran?
jag

I have trouble trusting a source with shoddy/weird English. Of resistance of Iran?

Really?

 

[kronos251]

Remember when Ahmadinejad visited a university in DC and after that - Ground Zero? Man that caused quite an indigestion... even when this country welcomed him in the airport And this was after he said he would wipe Israel off the map......

 

[That'ssuper!]

What the hell are you talking about? BOTH versions are wrong.

Firstly, he said, 3 times (in 24 hours) that Iran was training Al Queda...so easy on the interpretations there Ms. Cleo.

Also, Iran wouldn't supply Al Queda anyways (this is an impossibility). They'd ONLY give weapons to the Shia (and considering Saudi Arabia is giving weapons to Sunnis it increases this impossibility). The Wahabis (Al Queda) want to destroy the Shia, all of them, so Iran supplying them would be ridiculous.

ANY claim of either should be met with equal fervor because they show just how stupid, misinformed and easily manipulated these "leaders" are. These are the idiots that are going to be answering the phone at 3AM?

No duh . He believes in that too, that's what I generalized...

 

[Superman]

He has said it FIVE times over the past few days, Even after Joe Lieberman told him he was wrong, ON CAMERA no less, McCain then came out the very next day and said it again.

That's not a "senior moment" as his campaign people are trying to say, Nor is it because he's "senile" as some here are suggesting.

That is a LIE, Plain and simple. He is lying to us just like Bush did.


Now if some of you want more war in the Middle East, If you want more of our people killed for nothing, Then you go right ahead and vote for John {Bush Jr} McCain, I'm sure you'll get all the war you want with him, but I for one am tired of the lies from this "Bush/McCain War on a TACTIC" in Iraq and would like something alittle different.