The Iran Thread

[Mr Sparkle]

and maybe a naked chick draped at it's feet.

oh sa-weet, and the other side should have a wizard with a cristal ball totally against the wind so his robes flow in that badass way that they will!!!!

 

[sinewave]

oh sa-weet, and the other side should have a wizard with a cristal ball totally against the wind so his robes flow in that badass way that they will!!!!

hmmm, what's that smell? oh, i know... it's class!

 

[The Overlord]

Iran's president is a sabre rattler and he's nuts.

Sounds like our president.

When Bush engages saber rattlings he sounds like a boorish, arrogant unpleasant bully, when Ahmadinejad engages in Saber rattling he sounds like a Nazi and an apocalyptic maniac. Now which is scarier?

 

[raybia]

When Bush engages saber rattlings he sounds like a boorish, arrogant unpleasant bully, when Ahmadinejad engages in Saber rattling he sounds like a Nazi and an apocalyptic maniac. Now which is scarier?

Both are scary, but at this point, with me as an American, I'm more afraid of Bush and his adminstration because what he has done over that past 6 years has adversely effected me more than anything Iran has done...at this point.

 

[The Overlord]

Both are scary, but at this point, with me as an American, I'm more afraid of Bush and his adminstration because what he has done over that past 6 years has adversely effected me more than anything Iran has done...at this point.

Still as much as this pains me to say it, Bush actually has more common sense than Ahmadinejad, this why I doubt he will attack Iran, he has already been burned in Iraq and he has most of his troops tied up in Iraq and Afghanistan, it would take something really big for Bush to attack Iran, IMO. Ahmadinejad with his threats to wipe Israel off the map, doesn't seem to understand basic concepts like MAD and seems to want the US to attack Iran, which is insane.

 

[raybia]

Still as much as this pains me to say it, Bush actually has more common sense than Ahmadinejad, this why I doubt he will attack Iran, he has already been burned in Iraq and he has most of his troops tied up in Iraq and Afghanistan, it would take something really big for Bush to attack Iran, IMO. Ahmadinejad with his threats to wipe Israel off the map, doesn't seem to understand basic concepts like MAD and seems to want the US to attack Iran, which is insane.

I really don't think that he wants the U.S. to attack them because it would be no contest with thousands of Iranian casualities.

No one wants to fight a person who you think is crazy, and a person will act that way if they know they could end up in a fight they cannot win.

Ahmadinejad is doing a big dog and pony show for the U.S. and the U.S. is taking it hook, line and sinker.

 

[Tangled Web]

so you don't care about being forced to kill other people simply because some politician said so.

You're full of it. We're not being forced to kill other people "because some politician said so."
I'd would gladly be drafted to fight the bully that is Iran.

 

[The Overlord]

I really don't think that he wants the U.S. to attack them because it would be no contest with thousands of Iranian casualities.

No one wants to fight a person who you think is crazy, and a person will act that way if they know they could end up in a fight they cannot win.

Ahmadinejad is doing a big dog and pony show for the U.S. and the U.S. is taking it hook, line and sinker.

Is it, he knows the US has been on somewhat of hair tigger since 9-11 and he knows that he his desire to get nuclear weapons, coupled with his crazy pro nazi rhetoric is freaking the international community out, he is rather either really crazy or really stupid, because he really has nothing to ngain from this nonsense, he is turning Iran into an international pariah state.

 

[FunBobPants]

how is this any different if we DONT attack?

 

[Tangled Web]

neither was Iraq for that matter.

But we aren't smashing planes in to their buildings.

 

[C.F. Kane]

I'm just gonna stay here and wait for a deus ex machina to show up.

 

[Admiral_N8]

Seems kinda cowardly. Like if you punch me, I will retaliate by punching your baby sister..
Yeah, Way to puff out your chest Iran..

Hahaha best post ever

 

[Admiral_N8]

Well, you forgot to include both Russian and China into this soiree. You really think they are to going to standby while Israel nukes Iran?

You really think Russia and China are going to try and attack Israel with nukes over Iran? When the USA will undoubtably fight along Israels side?

Russia and China arent stupid enough to wage war against the USA over Iran.

 

[Admiral_N8]

Soooooo whats going on? this is pretty much just a 'bump' post

 

[Outsiderzedge]

Still as much as this pains me to say it, Bush actually has more common sense than Ahmadinejad, this why I doubt he will attack Iran, he has already been burned in Iraq and he has most of his troops tied up in Iraq and Afghanistan, it would take something really big for Bush to attack Iran, IMO. Ahmadinejad with his threats to wipe Israel off the map, doesn't seem to understand basic concepts like MAD and seems to want the US to attack Iran, which is insane.

There's a difference between invading Isreal and using nuclear weapons on Isreal. Only one would unite the world against Iran.

 

[Danger Mouse]

Seems kinda cowardly. Like if you punch me, I will retaliate by punching your baby sister..
Yeah, Way to puff out your chest Iran..

Give Israel some credit, will ya? In all acounts, Israel is hardly a baby sister to anyone. Israel is a very strong political and military ally of the US. Threatening to bomb Israel is hardly an act of cowardice.

Now, if Iran had threatened to bomb Canada instead...

 

[dpm07]

I think people need to chill out and relax. Nothing is going to happen. There's a very highly unlikely chance the US will engage Iran in ground conflict or any other conflict other than maybe some sporatic air attacks, if that even occurs.

I don't see the US fighting Iran. We are spread too thin, and the current administration will undoubtedly take this into consideration, as well as take sanctions into consideration. You'll hurt a country a lot more by working on them economically than you will militarily. Military might has short term positives, but economics have long term effects.

 

[Admiral_N8]

I think people need to chill out and relax. Nothing is going to happen. There's a very highly unlikely chance the US will engage Iran in ground conflict or any other conflict other than maybe some sporatic air attacks, if that even occurs.

I don't see the US fighting Iran. We are spread too thin, and the current administration will undoubtedly take this into consideration, as well as take sanctions into consideration. You'll hurt a country a lot more by working on them economically than you will militarily. Military might has short term positives, but economics have long term effects.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Well I hope whatever happens they git rid of the present regime in Iran.

 

[blind_fury]

Well I hope whatever happens they git rid of the present regime in Iran.

yeah, cuase that worked so well in Iraq.

 

[blind_fury]

You're full of it. We're not being forced to kill other people "because some politician said so."
I'd would gladly be drafted to fight the bully that is Iran.

If you're going to kill someone, do it protecting your family. Why are going across the globe, invading someone's homeland, shooting at their people? Because Bush said they're a threat? You mean like Saddam's WMD's?

And your willing to kill Iranians in their own country because "Iran is a bully". If I remember correctly that's the same reason Saudis flew planes into the WTC. Because they thought the US was a bully. Ironic isn't it?

You are so ready to kill just because of some stupid political rhetoric. Well enjoy your murderous rampage(and painful death) in Iran. Hopefully you'll die realizing the American invasion of Iran was counter-productive and completely pointless.

 

[AllThingsComic]

If you're going to kill someone, do it protecting your family. Why are going across the globe, invading someone's homeland, shooting at their people? Because Bush said they're a threat? You mean like Saddam's WMD's?

And your willing to kill Iranians in their own country because "Iran is a bully". If I remember correctly that's the same reason Saudis flew planes into the WTC. Because they thought the US was a bully. Ironic isn't it?

You are so ready to kill just because of some stupid political rhetoric. Well enjoy your murderous rampage(and painful death) in Iran. Hopefully you'll die realizing the American invasion of Iran was counter-productive and completely pointless.

I thought the reason was our relationship with Israel and the freedom this country has? Iran developing nuclear weapons is very scary and reason enough to invade.

 

[raybia]

You really think Russia and China are going to try and attack Israel with nukes over Iran? When the USA will undoubtably fight along Israels side?

Russia and China arent stupid enough to wage war against the USA over Iran.

Do you really think the U.S is going to try and attack Iran over a nukes program that they may or may not have, knowing that Russia and China are its allies?


The U.S. is not stupid enough to wage an attack that could be the catalyst for WWIII. Wars have been started for lesser reasons.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

yeah, cuase that worked so well in Iraq.

Well I am not saying that work so well....however as it has been noted above Iran is very different to Iraq. First of all, you have many Persians who left iran after the revolution and most of those were the elite. The Prince, son of the Shah, has been approached by officials of the US to step in just as Juan Carlos had stepped in Spain (even though that was done at the behest of Franco).

Please note that i am not completely objective as any change of regime for me would be better then the current situation. I detest the current regime for reasons which involve loss of family members directly due to the revolution which happenned in the 70s not mentioning other types of losses. I have lived most of my life outside the country of my origins and cannot even go for a visit. So do I think that an invasion would resolve ll the issues and not leas to chaos, no I do not but I do know that it will cause a regime change which will force the mollahs out of power and that is enough for me.

 

[The Overlord]

Do you really think the U.S is going to try and attack Iran over a nukes program that they may or may not have, knowing that Russia and China are its allies?


The U.S. is not stupid enough to wage an attack that could be the catalyst for WWIII. Wars have been started for lesser reasons.

Iran is nothing more than pawn to Russia and China, not a real ally. Russia and China engage solely in Machiavellian power politics nowdays, they have no ideological goals, which means they would ditch Iran whenever doing so in their interests . The US' alliance with Israel is ideological in nature, so they won't just ditch Israel whenever it is convenient. That was it is not Iran's interests to mess with Israel, because Israel's allies are more steadfast than Iran's. Heck, there are rumours that the Iranians are secretly supporting the Chechans and if that turns to be true the Russians would turn against Iran in a second.