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[lixdexia]

yeah, i'm not really excited for the new superman movie, but that's no different than it has been since they announced snyder was going to be in charge

lixdexia

 

[Spider-Fan]

lixdexia

Not a fan of Snyder either? We agree

 

[Manic]

Slanted the film too much and took away its ambiguity to simplify for the audience.

Are you sure we're talking about Watchmen and not V For Vendetta? How exactly was the ambiguity taken away and the story simplified? It felt pretty much the same to me.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Are you sure we're talking about Watchmen and not V For Vendetta? How exactly was the ambiguity taken away and the story simplified? It felt pretty much the same to me.

He slanted the story toward indicating Ozy's plan was wrong more so than letting the audience decide. Plus, by making the story about Dr. Manhattan being the threat, he changed the dynamic of Watchmen from man uniting together against another race to it being man uniting against God, since Dr. Manhattan represents God. Completely changes what Watchmen is about.

I'm not saying they needed to keep the squid, but at the same time, he changed the dynamic.

 

[Manic]

I agree about it being a mistake to unite humanity against Dr. Manhattan instead of an unknown imaginary threat, but I didn't get the impression that the movie portrayed Ozy's plan any more wrong than the comic did. The reactions to and results of his plan are the same in both versions, except the movie excluded the boat full of unsuspecting supporters and scientists he blew up to cover his trail.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I agree about it being a mistake to unite humanity against Dr. Manhattan instead of an unknown imaginary threat, but I didn't get the impression that the movie portrayed Ozy's plan any more wrong than the comic did. The reactions to and results of his plan are the same in both versions, except the movie excluded the boat full of unsuspecting supporters and scientists he blew up to cover his trail.

It's in the way the characters are played in the reveal of the plan. When I read Watchmen, I felt it was ambiguous. When I saw the movie, the body language and such showed subtlety toward a slant, which is powerful and effects the scene more than you think. That is where I feel he went wrong.

 

[Manic]

I'd have to rewatch the end of the movie again to see what you're talking about.

 

[The Squirrel]

I left the movie feeling to depressed to really have enjoyed it. But it wasn't a bad film. I think he will have a good take on Superman. Better than the last one we got.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I'd have to rewatch the end of the movie again to see what you're talking about.

You kind of do have to watch it to see what I'm talking about.

I left the movie feeling to depressed to really have enjoyed it. But it wasn't a bad film. I think he will have a good take on Superman. Better than the last one we got.

Well, that is a low bar. Blind monkeys could make a better Superman film than the last one.

 

[The Squirrel]

Well, that is a low bar. Blind monkeys could make a better Superman film than the last one.

It's Zack Snyder. He's not someone I need or want to set the bar high for. I know what I want from his films. Chris Nolan he is not.

 

[Spider-Fan]

It's Zack Snyder. He's not someone I need or want to set the bar high for. I know what I want from his films. Chris Nolan he is not.

No he is not. Which is somewhat of a shame for me, because while Batman is one of my 3 favorite DC heroes, Superman IS my favorite DC hero. I want the best for Superman, and I am just not sure Snyder is it.

 

[lixdexia]

prepare to see superman flying at super speed...IN SLOW MOTION!!!!

 

[Manic]

Who's doing the script to this new Superman movie, anyway? he asked because he was too lazy to check IMDB.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think Goyer and Nolan came up with story, and Goyer is writing it.

 

[Manic]

Looks like I'd better prepare myself for a heady Superman movie with a 3rd act twist.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Goyer is a mediocre writer. I would prefer Johnathan Nolan over him writing if one of that trio was to write the script. Goyer seems to be good at getting basic outlines and ideas, but the scripts he does himself have some problems. Especially in regard to dialogue.

I'm just not expecting much out of this film.

 

[Manic]

Hey, as long as Goyer doesn't fill the script with 3 dozen instances of "your father" and "theatricality," I'm sure it'll be fine.









Who am I kidding? This is Superman we're talking about. Of course we're going hear every other character talk about his father throughout the movie.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Hey, as long as Goyer doesn't fill the script with 3 dozen instances of "your father" and "theatricality," I'm sure it'll be fine.









Who am I kidding? This is Superman we're talking about. Of course we're going hear every other character talk about his father throughout the movie.

I hope not

If it were me, I'd make it about his rise to power in Metropolis. Not his Kryptonian legacy. We've seen that for several films and a TV show now. Do something new.

 

[The Squirrel]

I just want a nice, fun action movie.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I want a GOOD movie. Supes needs an awesome movie, after the crap he has been in since Superman II. I don't want a mindless action flick. I want a good Superman movie.

 

[Manic]

I want a Clark Kent who feels more like a snarky everyman and less like a milquetoast caricature. I'm starting to feel like nobody will ever top Dean Cain's Clark, and Cain's not even that good an actor.

 

[The Squirrel]

Action movies can be good and non mindless. But I don't want a melodrama. I want destruction in the streets from the hero fighting the villain.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Action movies can be good and non mindless. But I don't want a melodrama. I want destruction in the streets from the hero fighting the villain.

I agree Superman needs a foe that can physically fight him and great action scenes. But, I don't want it to be ALL it strives for.

 

[lixdexia]

i want birthright, but start at the part where he moves to metropolis and replace the fake kryptonians with brainiac

lixdexia

 

[Spider-Fan]

I want a Clark Kent who feels more like a snarky everyman and less like a milquetoast caricature. I'm starting to feel like nobody will ever top Dean Cain's Clark, and Cain's not even that good an actor.

I'd prefer a different take on Clark, also. We've seen enough bumbling.