The Libertarian Thread

[StorminNorman]

The bottom line is, the gov't runs all the media tv, radio, and newspapers and Ron Paul does not do well in them. The internet is basically the only domain left as the voice of the people, and there he shines. Isn't there something peculiar about that?

Because when I think "Mainstream Media" the first thing I think of is "Puppet of President Bush".

This is exactly why people don't like Ron Paul fans (this coming from a man with great respect for Dr. Paul).

 

[AllThingsComic]

I'm not saying anything that isn't already well known.

 

[StorminNorman]

I'm not saying anything that isn't already well known.

The Government does not control the Media. The Media handcuffs the Government.

 

[AllThingsComic]

The Government does not control the Media. The Media handcuffs the Government.

I read the paper everyday, I see nothing of Pauls money bombs, no editorials, not even a single column on his stand. The news, forget it even less. You hear all about Guilianis decline, but never that Paul has him beat, just Guiliani drops to 5th place behind Romney McCain and Huckabee. Cnn is basically the only channel to even mention his name.

 

[AllThingsComic]

What annoys me even more is when he's referred as the youtube sensation. They cannot even mention him without that phrase in front of his name.

 

[StorminNorman]

I read the paper everyday, I see nothing of Pauls money bombs, no editorials, not even a single column on his stand. The news, forget it even less. You hear all about Guilianis decline, but never that Paul has him beat, just Guiliani drops to 5th place behind Romney McCain and Huckabee. Cnn is basically the only channel to even mention his name.

I listen to Cable News, Talk Radio - Ron Paul's Money bombs are mentioned frequently. In fact I hear about Ron Paul on the news more often than I even here Ron Paul fans complaining hes NOT on the news.

He was on Meet the Press, a full hour on Glenn Beck, etc. etc.

 

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He was on Leno the other week, too.

 

[bored]

Not voteing for him because of what his "fans" do is no excuse either.

Why not? If this is the group that supports him, and I can't begin to relate to them, what does "Dr. Paul" offer me?

 

[bunk]

Ron Paul rocks.

 

[Addendum]

The bottom line is, the gov't runs all the media tv, radio, and newspapers and Ron Paul does not do well in them.

The only radio and tv stations that could be considered "government run" are National Public Radio, Public Television (since they receive some funding from the government, the rest is supported by listeners, viewers and local business) and the radio and tv divisions of the Armed Services.

I'm not aware of a newspaper being run by the government, though I think there is something the government publishes which collects news articles from a variety of papers for the conveinence of the elected officials.

 

[BlackLantern]

Ron just needs to quit the race and take all that money he raised and go on vacation.......

 

[teh Puffy]

??????????

So, why is it that radio tends to be more conservative, and TV tends to be more liberal?????? If what you say is true, then why is "all" of the media not swinging more to the right, when in fact, it tends to swing to the left.

Really I am tired of hearing all this crap about the man never doing good through media outlets, but he shines on the internet and thats because the goverment runs the media outlets. You know he could forfit some of his donations he is getting by the millions as one supporter said elsewhere and put it out there then, with a paper stating such facts. Instead we get a bunch of nuts who support this horrible man, by saying its a medias election nothing else. Media is controling you. You dont know anything unless its media driven.

Like those people who say we have it bad here for our offices. Yet when you mention how bad in other countries are you are told its just media propaganda. Like they have been there cause as far as they can see they see the same shizzle i see everyday.

 

[teh Puffy]

Oh you dont believe american children dont see there parents. You really think parents are the best answer for there children. Some baby their children and say its okay you dont have to do that. At least with a goverment education, you get an education. Half of american parents dont see there child more than 2 hours a day. They come home from work while the kid was in school. They eat dinner maybe catch a television show or some news, then its off to bed. No family quality in this country. So how does a parent know whats best for there child, they know as much as the goverment, therefore the issue isnt broken. Its simply there for you to get an education.

 

[AllThingsComic]

^^^^okaaaay

 

[Mr Sparkle]

The Government does not control the Media. The Media handcuffs the Government.

you don't really believe that do you?

 

[Memphis Slim]

Ron Paul is a nut.......

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bzFtISty8hE&feature=related

 

[bell110]

Why not? If this is the group that supports him, and I can't begin to relate to them, what does "Dr. Paul" offer me?

Because you're supposed to vote on issues. If you don't like where he stands, that's one thing. Not voting for him because of some "fans" is like not voting for Obama on the soul reason because he's black. Or not voting for a candidate because the KKK support them. I don't know where you live, but I don't see crazy Ron Paul fans. As a matter of fact, I've seen people who normally don't vote actually consider voting for him alone.

Ron just needs to quit the race and take all that money he raised and go on vacation.......

No, he needs to stick it out to the end, then when he loses, become the Libertarian cadidate.

Ron Paul is a nut.......

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bzFtISty8hE&feature=related

Says the guy who supports torture

 

[cookiva]

Ron Paul is a nut.......

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bzFtISty8hE&feature=related

Dont you think that its OK for us to torture other human beings. Isn't that the most anti-christian thing you could do??

 

[Kelly]

Really I am tired of hearing all this crap about the man never doing good through media outlets, but he shines on the internet and thats because the goverment runs the media outlets. You know he could forfit some of his donations he is getting by the millions as one supporter said elsewhere and put it out there then, with a paper stating such facts. Instead we get a bunch of nuts who support this horrible man, by saying its a medias election nothing else. Media is controling you. You dont know anything unless its media driven.

Like those people who say we have it bad here for our offices. Yet when you mention how bad in other countries are you are told its just media propaganda. Like they have been there cause as far as they can see they see the same shizzle i see everyday.

Why did you quote me????? Your post had nothing to do with what I said.

 

[cookiva]

He loves you...

 

[The Senator]

I think the direction in which media swings depends on the political situation in the country.

In the late 1990s, television and radio seemed to swing right. Everyone was jumping over the Clinton impeachment hearings, because they wanted to see the first President impeached.

During the 2000 election, television went left, while radio stayed right. Even though I was a kid, I sort of knew this, because every media outlet on TV seemed to scrutinize Bush for his drinking, drug use and random swearing. Meanwhile, Al Gore acted like a pompous jerk during the debates, and the pundits declared him the winner despite his lack of tact.

Following 9/11, everything went right. From the terror alert to anthrax to the duct tape crisis, the media followed every waking minute of the 9/11 aftermath and virtually promoted the idea of going into Afghanistan. As far as I can remember, the media seemed to love the idea of going into Iraq, too. It was also during this time that Fox News became the number one cable news network.

In 2004, radio stayed right, TV started to lean left... but John Kerry seemed to gain more scrutiny than George W. Bush on a daily basis.

Of course, following the 2004 election, TV went left, while radio saw a bit of a shift (Air America debuted in 2004, but didn't become 'big' until 2005). Then again, Rush Limbaugh was still blabbering, making fun of Michael J. Fox and whatnot.

TV is currently left-leaning, and the radio is currently going back and forth.

I think it just depends on the current state of affairs, and that no one media stays biased towards one side.

 

[cookiva]

I think the direction in which media swings depends on the political situation in the country.

In the late 1990s, television and radio seemed to swing right. Everyone was jumping over the Clinton impeachment hearings, because they wanted to see the first President impeached.

During the 2000 election, television went left, while radio stayed right. Even though I was a kid, I sort of knew this, because every media outlet on TV seemed to scrutinize Bush for his drinking, drug use and random swearing. Meanwhile, Al Gore acted like a pompous jerk during the debates, and the pundits declared him the winner despite his lack of tact.

Following 9/11, everything went right. From the terror alert to anthrax to the duct tape crisis, the media followed every waking minute of the 9/11 aftermath and virtually promoted the idea of going into Afghanistan. As far as I can remember, the media seemed to love the idea of going into Iraq, too. It was also during this time that Fox News became the number one cable news network.

In 2004, radio stayed right, TV started to lean left... but John Kerry seemed to gain more scrutiny than George W. Bush on a daily basis.

Of course, following the 2004 election, TV went left, while radio saw a bit of a shift (Air America debuted in 2004, but didn't become 'big' until 2005). Then again, Rush Limbaugh was still blabbering, making fun of Michael J. Fox and whatnot.

TV is currently left-leaning, and the radio is currently going back and forth.

I think it just depends on the current state of affairs, and that no one media stays biased towards one side.

True, and that is the reason why I think that the internet is now a huge source of news for the average american. You can go to yahoo news, get the facts, not biased opinions.

 

[Kelly]

I simply watch CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, PBS, and make decisions, and form my decisions on my own.

 

[The Only Woj]

Ron Paul is a nut.......

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bzFtISty8hE&feature=related

in relation to that Fox News debate ...

Brit Hulme asked him a completely different question regarding Iran.

The other candidates (Huckabee and Thompson) both talked about killing them. Huckabee mentioned them if they made one more "step" being blown apart and Thompson made mention of sending them to see the virgins they talk about (that's Al Qaeda you ****ing moron, not the Iraqi military).

Paul accurately brought up information that there was still issues determining where the audio came from, and what the true details of the incident were. yet the other candidates had no problem mentioning that we would blow them apart. AND he made sure to mention that those dinky speed boats weren't a legitimate threat to our giant, heavily armed warships in the vicinity.

 

[WhatsHisFace]

I simply watch CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, PBS, and make decisions, and form my decisions on my own.

If you're watching the news, your decisions are made for you. News is so one-sided it's disgusting.