The Lone Ranger

[DarthSkywalker]

Depp and Verbinski are loony toons and the Pirates films were very violent so I'm not shocked they continued that trend.

Which is pretty crazy awesome.

 

[Doctor Jones]

We'll see where the $250 budget goes when we actually seen the movie... because we couldn't possibly know from just the trailers, and people are only looking for ways to say, "They spent too much!" I'd rather wait to see the movie to make the judgement before condemning it before it comes out. I don't like reading reviews, but critics can be biased with an agenda to just want to come out right.

We're not the producers or the people in charge of the financing. Because for some reason, maybe it's entitlement, people love to play those roles on the internet, the all powerful ego stroking place. If anything, the scale that this is at, this probably was the least amount of budget they could get to... which was the reason why this film had to be delayed in the first place. It irritates me people are just jumping all over this film pretending to know how exactly everything was spent coming to the conclusion it's irresponsible spending and that "it should have been made for less." Yes, because it's that easy. Blockbusters cost anywhere from $150 - $250 million now, even more. And they will continue to rise. Everything is different now in terms of demand. Plus, I respect them for at least putting this much money into a western and giving it a chance. Sure it has Depp and Bruckheimer backing it up, but a western is still a gamble.

These aren't the days of Mask of Zorro where you can make a film for under $100 million and get away with it. With inflation, and today's marketing, Zorro would cost around the same.

Also, they built an actual ****ing railroad! That's got to be the most incredible practical effect I've heard about in a long time.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

We'll see where the $250 budget goes when we actually seen the movie... because we couldn't possibly know from just the trailers, and people are only looking for ways to say, "They spent too much!" I'd rather wait to see the movie to make the judgement before condemning it before it comes out. I don't like reading reviews, but critics can be biased with an agenda to just want to come out right.

We're not the producers or the people in charge of the financing. Because for some reason, maybe it's entitlement, people love to play those roles on the internet, the all powerful ego stroking place. If anything, the scale that this is at, this probably was the least amount of budget they could get to... which was the reason why this film had to be delayed in the first place. It irritates me people are just jumping all over this film pretending to know how exactly everything was spent coming to the conclusion it's irresponsible spending and that "it should have been made for less." Yes, because it's that easy. Blockbusters cost anywhere from $150 - $250 million now, even more. And they will continue to rise. Everything is different now in terms of demand. Plus, I respect them for at least putting this much money into a western and giving it a chance. Sure it has Depp and Bruckheimer backing it up, but a western is still a gamble.

Also, they built an actual ****ing railroad! That's got to be the most incredible practical effect I've heard about in a long time.

 

[Silvermoon]

Also, they built an actual ****ing railroad! That's got to be the most incredible practical effect I've heard about in a long time.

My brother actually works with a company that contracts out to help restore steam engines and rail-cars and the like. When he comes into town this holiday I'm thinking I'll ask him what he thinks building a steam engine from the ground up would (roughly) cost - I'm expecting pretty dang expensive.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Holy ****! The movie is 2hrs and 29min???

Yes. I love these kind of runtimes.

Are we talking about the same Gore Verbinski? The three Pirates of the Caribbean films he directed were pretty heavy with CGI, specifically the second and third films.

Yes, because there NEEDED to be to the people making these films. I'm sure they had reasonable explanations as to why there was CG. And it was GOOD CG. This wasn't some Green Lantern ****, this is ILM we're talking about here. And if I'm gonna need a lot of CG, I'd ideally like to use ILM.

 

[Doctor Jones]

My brother actually works with a company that contracts out to help restore steam engines and rail-cars and the like. When he comes into town this holiday I'm thinking I'll ask him what he thinks building a steam engine from the ground up would (roughly) cost - I'm expecting pretty dang expensive.

See, with this, it makes them smart for actually having the sense to cut the budget before they started filming. They knew it was going to be expensive already, there was no avoiding that, but wherever they actually could, they saw where it needed to be done and did it.

I don't understand people. When Nolan's crew builds a rotating hallway it gets praised as genius, and when Verbinski and Bruckheimer's crew builds an actual ****ing railroad with a workable train people question the reasoning behind building it.

What the actual ****?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yes. I love these kind of runtimes.



Yes, because there NEEDED to be to the people making these films. I'm sure they had reasonable explanations as to why there was CG. And it was GOOD CG.

Doctor Jones is on fire.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I love Dr. Jones but I'm also going to continue to question these budgets and talk about when some of these movies fail. I already said that it's Disney's money but they are not above scrutiny if the movie disappoints at the box office. No company is. I'm a nerd I literally analyze every mundane thing.

I do get where the good doctor is coming from just like I get where Darth is coming from. Anyway I'm repeating myself I think most know where I stand.

 

[dark_b]

of course talking about budgets is not a problem.

maybe not you but some are acting like there is a machine on top of the mountain. you throw inside 200 millions and the machine gives you the movie on a hard disk. 200 millions is spend on work and on people. people get payed for their work.

 

[The Guard]

My brother actually works with a company that contracts out to help restore steam engines and rail-cars and the like. When he comes into town this holiday I'm thinking I'll ask him what he thinks building a steam engine from the ground up would (roughly) cost -I'm expecting pretty dang expensive.

Not sure. I would imagine it depends on what you need the engine to be able to do, and what kind of safety standards are required. As far as buying them, I've been told $1 to $7 million dollars by people who enjoy such things, my father among them, who is a train aficianado. I can't imagine building it would cost any more than twice that.

And that's a lot of money, but it's not $300 million. That's the price of 15 minutes of CGI in a lot of major motion pictures.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Not sure. I would imagine it depends on what you need the engine to be able to do, and what kind of safety standards are required. As far as buying them, I've been told $1 to $7 million dollars by people who enjoy such things, my father among them, who is a train aficianado. I can't imagine building it would cost any more than twice that.

And that's a lot of money, but it's not $300 million. That's the price of 15 minutes of CGI in a lot of major motion pictures.

You forgot the track they laid. I think it was around 3 miles. Not sure.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

If you don't see where the money was spent then you are drunk. It's an expensive summer movie, the money will be on the screen.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

If you don't see where the money was spent then you are drunk. It's an expensive summer movie, the money will be on the screen.

And if it isn't, they are doing it wrong.

By the way, they got the film budget down by cutting the pay checks of Depp, Hammer and Gore by 20% each, and it is still that high. That is a crazy amount of money.

 

[terry78]

If you don't see where the money was spent then you are drunk. It's an expensive summer movie, the money will be on the screen.

Many a person has woken up the next morning to those exact same words.

 

[dark_b]

i am still waiting for some here to start praising that Verbinski filmed on location. thats a big plus.

 

[dark_b]

By the way, they got the film budget down by cutting the pay checks of Depp, Hammer and Gore by 20% each, and it is still that high. That is a crazy amount of money.

i dont think they needed to cut down Hammer's paycheck if you know what i mean.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

i am still waiting for some here to start praising that Verbinski filmed on location. thats a big plus.

I personally think it is awesome. If you can get the studio to say yes, why would you not do it?

i dont think they needed to cut down Hammer's paycheck if you know what i mean.

It is all relative. That is why I think they did percentages.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Many a person has woken up the next morning to those exact same words.

I wouldn't know as I've never even tasted alcohol.

I'm with dark b, Hammer isn't a star how much of his check could they really cut? I mean he's from a rich family so he isn't going to die in the gutter but surely he wants to be paid for his work. I can't imagine he got paid a lot in the first place.

 

[Silvermoon]

i am still waiting for some here to start praising that Verbinski filmed on location. thats a big plus.

Was showing my Utah pride a page or two back due to the fact they filmed stuff in Moab not enough?? cause goodness knows, I could do more if you'd like (did the same thing with At World's End when they used the Bonneville Salt Flats for Cap'n Jack in "Davy Jones Locker")

Seriously though, I do love that they filmed on location as well....because (if nothing else) it provided jobs and income for the areas that they filmed at (can be tourism draw when the film comes out), AND they get to show off the gorgeous raw scenery that we have here in the west/southwest

 

[terry78]

I can't fault the man for wanting to challenge himself though. I mean, he was a pretty decent part of Social Network, having to basically act alongside himself at points, making the Winklevi pretty much intellectual buffoons.

 

[Tony Stark]

He's a good actor, I hope this gets him more opportunities.

I'm pretty distressed at the reviews, I mean if you can't please Claudia Puig, your in deep trouble.

Hopefully at best this ends up like Man of Steel, a huge disappointment, but perhaps the start of something that the next one is better at.

I don't think audiences have grown tired of superhero movies, I think they've grown tired of origin stories, especially of the 2 1/2 hour variety.

 

[Bruce Malone]

The marketing is just bizarre i find. Anybody see the tv spot where you hear about 5 characters say tonto's name in rapid succession? followed by "the lone ranger in theatres..."?

Aside from no mention of armie hammer you'd think half the viewing public would assume tonto's nickname is the "lone ranger"?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Disney would be stupid to not promote the film on Depp's back. It doesn't matter that it doesn't make any sense. I just wonder why they didn't put Tonto's name in the title. Apparently it's starring him anyway.

 

[Autonet]

Depp is a big draw so might as well put him front and center.

ex: After Earth and Will Smith

 

[Ultimatehero]

Just checked RT.... WOW!!!!... that said the critics have been dead-wrong this summer rather than anywhere close to right, so I think they've just gone loopy.

From their wackiness with MOS. To their absurd WHD > OHF (on here I see the majority having OHF > WHD for it being cheesy, but for critics it's for some reason WHD > OHF -- they wanted a funny white house invasion film -- I think critics might just like things to make them laugh these days lol). We could have 'Ordinary People' come out next weekend and i half expect critics to hate it because it's not funny.

But, yeah, critics have been loopy this summer so far.