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It sucks that Brock works so few dates. He needs to be on Raw tearing through 3MB by himself or breaking up a Santino/Khali/whoever "comedy" segment and destroying all of them at least a couple times a month, plus attacking whoever he is supposed to be feuding with. He doesn't even need to have "matches", but just be a physical presence. I feel like when he shows up every few months and loses half of his ppv matches, it doesn't mean as much.

I agree with this. It would be cool if he just hung around as an enforcer for hire or something like that. He can be like what APA was back in the 90's and beat up on a face to help a heel win until a big PPV comes up and he gets involved in a feud.
 
I wanna try to make it to the ROH 12th Anniversary Show JUST to see AJ Styles. Would love to see him return to ROH because they do need a guy like AJ Styles.
 
Not really. In fact, Hunter Rider sums up my argument perfectly:



Should the streak end, it should be used to cement someone's ME status, not create someone's ME status. I see the suggestions as to who should end the streak, and frankly, I'm baffled. You guys want someone like Sheamus to end the steak, when Sheamus, as HR pointed out, is simply not over enough despite WWE giving him a full push?

Cena or Bryan are the two most credible options at this point.

Cement JOHN CENA'S main event status?

He's only been main eventer for ten years.
 
Any streak-ending scenario has to be a balance between benefit and believability. I think a lot of posters here are focussing too much on the former, and not enough on the latter. Yes, Roman Reigns or Dean Ambrose would benefit greatly from ending the streak, but technically so would Santino or Brie Bella. All the up and comers in the WWE right now (Reigns, Rollins, Ambrose, Ziggler, Langston) are terrific, but story-wise they are not powerful enough to end the streak, and would have to rely on a lucky break in order for a win to make sense.

In terms of believability, the only active guys who fulfill that requirement are Cena, Punk, Lesnar, Triple H, Orton, Big Show and Bryan. And while Bryan is my favorite wrestler right now, I'd put a big asterisk next to his name on that list.
 
Any streak-ending scenario has to be a balance between benefit and believability. I think a lot of posters here are focussing too much on the former, and not enough on the latter. Yes, Roman Reigns or Dean Ambrose would benefit greatly from ending the streak, but technically so would Santino or Brie Bella. All the up and comers in the WWE right now (Reigns, Rollins, Ambrose, Ziggler, Langston) are terrific, but story-wise they are not powerful enough to end the streak, and would have to rely on a lucky break in order for a win to make sense.

In terms of believability, the only active guys who fulfill that requirement are Cena, Punk, Lesnar, Triple H, Orton, Big Show and Bryan. And while Bryan is my favorite wrestler right now, I'd put a big asterisk next to his name on that list.

With a year of build, Reigns would be believable.
 
With a year of build, Reigns would be believable.

I see Reigns as being the next Cena/Hogan/Rock, but that's going to take more than a year, and he'll need to be at that Cena/Hogan/Rock level for a streak-ending victory to make sense.
 
Cena or Bryan are the two most credible options at this point.Cement JOHN CENA'S main event status?

He's only been main eventer for ten years.
His character sucks, but his work ethic is incredible and has been the face of the WWE for almost a decade. He more than deserves his immortal moment.

In terms of believability, the only active guys who fulfill that requirement are Cena, Punk, Lesnar, Triple H, Orton, Big Show and Bryan. And while Bryan is my favorite wrestler right now, I'd put a big asterisk next to his name on that list.
Cena - I am for this.

Punk - They blew their chance.

Lesnar - Never lost to The Undertaker in a singles match + former UFC Heavyweight Champion = credible threat. Unfortunately, his part-time status and lack of passion for the business disqualifies him.

Helmsley - I was rooting for him to end it at both 27 and 28, but he failed.

Orton - He's a fu** up and I'm not a fan of WrestleMania rematches.

Show - LOL, he's been a joke for most of his WWE career.

Bryan - He's insanely over, but he's too small.

Del Rio - I would love it, but he couldn't get over and I don't think even ending The Streak would help him with that. :(

McIntyre - I would've made a case for him his push not been halted for Jack Swagger.

Sting - I've been a Sting fan since the Surfer and while he's universally loved and respected, it wouldn't feel right if he was The One.

Any streak-ending scenario has to be a balance between benefit and believability.
Which is why Sheamus is the only other option. He has more to gain from it than Cena.
 
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Cena has had plenty of moments, there's no reason he should have this one.

I see Reigns as being the next Cena/Hogan/Rock, but that's going to take more than a year, and he'll need to be at that Cena/Hogan/Rock level for a streak-ending victory to make sense.


Okay it might take more than a year but if he's at Cena or Hogan's level, then I don't see the point in him ending it. Ending it should be the thing that puts him on their level.
 
Thinking about it, I say don't end the streak. There is too many ways it could go bad.
 
See, when the WWE shoves all this social media crap down our throats why don't they use stuff like this? At least it's creative and funny.

Because the WWE thinks the audience watching on TV doesn't have the intelligence to handle stuff like that Big E video. There was one Raw last year where the WWE beat down to death how to use the WWE App, like it's advanced trigonometry.
 
- As noted, Mae Young had been hospitalized but is now at home under hospice care. She was released to go home on December 30th. Her condition is described as stable and she is speaking but her voice sounds weak and tired. As noted, WWE had asked her to appear on Monday’s RAW Old School before they found out about her condition.

- People in the know, who knew about Chris Jericho’s previous WWE returns, say they have heard nothing about a return happening any time soon.

- The Ultimate Warrior is now expected to have some kind of role at WrestleMania XXX, likely a Hall of Fame induction.

- We noted before that WWE had been planning to do Brock Lesnar vs. Big Show at the Royal Rumble pay-per-view. That was discussed back when Show was feuding with The Authority. The plan was for Show to be on top and go through Randy Orton and Triple H, but not win the title, but come out of the program as a strong main eventer. The idea was to make Show strong for Lesnar at the Rumble so Lesnar would look stronger for The Undertaker at WrestleMania XXX.

- Regarding Lesnar vs. Undertaker, there had been some concern because Lesnar works such a physical style and Taker is in really rough shape physically. This is why there was some talk of Sheamus facing Taker.

Another issue with Lesnar facing Taker is that a lot of Taker’s opponents, if not all, over the past several years have secretly worked out their match with him and practiced it. There was some concern over whether or not Lesnar would be willing to put in that much time preparing.

- The Wrestling Observer Newsletter still reports that Bray Wyatt vs. John Cena is planned for WrestleMania XXX. We noted earlier in the week, via PWInsider, that the match was something discussed before WWE decided to unify the titles and before they made Randy Orton champion with the idea Bray could win the Royal Rumble and go on to challenge Cena.

- Rey Mysterio’s leg is said to be getting stronger and he’s trying to work his way back into normal ring shape.

- It’s said that The Undertaker asked to work with Daniel Bryan at WrestleMania XXX. No word yet if it was discussed internally or anything.

- Regarding CM Punk seeming to show frustration online, people are noting that Punk always talks about leaving when he gets frustrated but the feeling is that he won’t leave, at least now.

- The Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports that Eddie Edwards and Davey Richards won’t be back at the next set of WWE NXT tapings and they aren’t going to be offered a contract.

Apparently Triple H didn’t want t sign them after their tryout because of their size. The feeling is they are loaded with guys who aren’t big that can go so the mentality coming out of these tryout camps is that WWE is looking for guys who can headline WrestleMania in five or ten years.

A lot of people went to bat for Richards and Edwards with the feeling they should get a deal and several people pushed for them to go straight to the main roster. It’s said Triple H made the decision not to sign them after the NXT tapings where they lost to The Ascension.

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

http://dailywrestlingnews.com/warrior-wrestlemania-xxx-backstage-talk-jericho-mae-young-update/
http://dailywrestlingnews.com/two-problems-taker-vs-lesnar-original-plans-big-shows-run/
http://dailywrestlingnews.com/undertaker-vs-daniel-bryan-wrestlemania-mysterios-health-cena-wyatt/
http://dailywrestlingnews.com/cm-punk-leaving-wwe-recent-wwe-attendance-wwe-tech-director-passes/
http://dailywrestlingnews.com/isnt-triple-h-bringing-edwards-richards-wwe/
 
Thinking about it, I say don't end the streak. There is too many ways it could go bad.

At this point, even losing a back and forth battle to Undertaker should elevate a young star, which is why I think it could be a good idea for him to call out The Shield when he comes back and put on a show with Reigns (who, in the process, earns Undertaker's respect and severs ties with the group).
 
Okay it might take more than a year but if he's at Cena or Hogan's level, then I don't see the point in him ending it. Ending it should be the thing that puts him on their level.

I think this comment helps illustrate that their are two very distinct camps emerging on what a streak ending victory means: one camp wants the victory to create greatness, and would put forward somebody like Reigns or Sheamus, and one camp wants the victory to celebrate greatness, and would put forward somebody like Cena or Punk.
 
WWE had better be ready to turn Cena heel after ending the streak. I can't fathom the reaction it would get. The streak is a big deal to a lot of people.
 
WWE had better be ready to turn Cena heel after ending the streak. I can't fathom the reaction it would get. The streak is a big deal to a lot of people.

Probably similar to if he had beaten RVD at One Night Stand.
 
Cena needs to go heel already. Bryan can carry that torch of being Mr. Make a Wish. Sooner or later, Cena's gonna end up where Hogan was in the mid 90's and the support won't be half and half anymore.
 
Since this is going to go on forever, can we talk about who would end Fandango's WrestleMania streak instead?

I say everyone. :woot:
 
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