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I always thought that the Undertaker planned on using the streak as a way to push someone to super-stardom. As in, he puts someone over in the match, they get to end the streak, and they reach a new height. The Undertaker is one of those old-school wrestlers, and isn't a big thing for them "putting someone over on the way out"?
 
I always thought that the Undertaker planned on using the streak as a way to push someone to super-stardom. As in, he puts someone over in the match, they get to end the streak, and they reach a new height. The Undertaker is one of those old-school wrestlers, and isn't a big thing for them "putting someone over on the way out"?

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!

I'm sure someone's going to mention that Shawn Michaels didn't put anyone over on his way out, but really, Shawn had spent his comeback years putting over talent, so him losing his retirement match to Taker wasn't an issue. Taker RARELY loses, and when he does, it involves a lot of shenanigans and run-ins. It'd be cool if he lost the Streak in a clean match. Using it to catapult someone to that next level is the best use of the loss.

I'd wager we can likely see either Roman Reigns or Big E Langston challenging the Streak at Wrestlemania 31 and potentially ending it.
 
LOL, it has nothing to do with being an online wrestling fan. It has to do with building stars for the future.

This. Undertaker retiring undefeated is a cool kayfabe accomplishment and will make his fans happy, but ending it is the right thing to do for business. The company has already made all the money they can from The 20-0 DVD and t-shirts.

There was no point in him continuing after WrestleMania 28 so I can't wait for The Steak to end and as I've stated before, John Cena or Sheamus are the only two guys worthy enough of having the honor.
 
If it's at 31 I see Reigns a likely candidate provided he contiues to improve at the rate he's going. I still hope Sheamus does it, though.
 
You're not. I mean, I'm sorry, but I just don't understand the logic in giving the biggest win in years and years to someone already established.

And I don't understand the logic in letting an up and comer take the streak when you have no idea where said up and comer might end up.

That's like letting 02' Brock Lesnar end the streak....and then he ups and leaves for football.

Or letting 05' Orton end the streak....and then, he ends up with two wellness violations.

I'm sure people thought it would've been great to let 09' Hardy end the streak too.

I'd rather see a guy who's proven he can and will carry the company take the streak instead of having Taker lose to some guy who's only popular at a particular moment. Guys like Punk, Bryan, or even Cena are more deserving of ending the streak than someone like Sheamus or Big E.

Not to mention there are other ways of putting people over and building stars.
 
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I hope Naito doesn't take the IWGP Heavyweight Championship from Okada this Saturday. With that said, Wrestle Kingdom 8 looks like another incredible card from NJPW.
 
Ding ding ding, we have a winner!

I'm sure someone's going to mention that Shawn Michaels didn't put anyone over on his way out, but really, Shawn had spent his comeback years putting over talent, so him losing his retirement match to Taker wasn't an issue. Taker RARELY loses, and when he does, it involves a lot of shenanigans and run-ins. It'd be cool if he lost the Streak in a clean match. Using it to catapult someone to that next level is the best use of the loss.

I'd wager we can likely see either Roman Reigns or Big E Langston challenging the Streak at Wrestlemania 31 and potentially ending it.

I agree with this. Only thing I'll add is that I think Shawn and Taker are two different kinds of animals (character and kayfabe wise), hence the difference in the manners in which they are/have been booked to lose/have lost.
 
Ding ding ding, we have a winner!

I'm sure someone's going to mention that Shawn Michaels didn't put anyone over on his way out, but really, Shawn had spent his comeback years putting over talent, so him losing his retirement match to Taker wasn't an issue. Taker RARELY loses, and when he does, it involves a lot of shenanigans and run-ins. It'd be cool if he lost the Streak in a clean match. Using it to catapult someone to that next level is the best use of the loss.

I'd wager we can likely see either Roman Reigns or Big E Langston challenging the Streak at Wrestlemania 31 and potentially ending it.

I'd like that. I've made piece with the possibility of Cena or Orton ending the streak though. I really feel ike it wouldn't be the worst thing ever now, unlike awhile back. I'd just rather someone like Reigns or Big E got it..
 
Out of all the recent part timers and the supposedly full time return of Batista..Which one would you prefer to come back full time on WWE TV?

Batista
Brock Lesnar
The Rock
Triple H
The Undertaker

I have to go with Brock,Even if he remains part time I honestly wouldn't mind him getting a title reign and even headlining WM XXX
 
Out of all the recent part timers and the supposedly full time return of Batista..Which one would you prefer to come back full time on WWE TV?

Batista
Brock Lesnar
The Rock
Triple H
The Undertaker

I have to go with Brock,Even if he remains part time I honestly wouldn't mind him getting a title reign and even headlining WM XXX

Brock or Undertaker if he found the fountain of youth lol.
 
I wouldn't be opposed to Brock being full time out of that list either. The problem I have is there are so many guys I want to see have the belt in 2014, that the longer reigns "rule" put in by Triple H can't accommodate all of them.
 
Out of all the recent part timers and the supposedly full time return of Batista..Which one would you prefer to come back full time on WWE TV?

Batista
Brock Lesnar
The Rock
Triple H
The Undertaker

I have to go with Brock,Even if he remains part time I honestly wouldn't mind him getting a title reign and even headlining WM XXX

Brock easily. No contest.

I would consider the Rock if he dropped 30 pounds, got into in-ring shape somewhere to close to where he was in his prime, and stopped having safe, padded matches.
 
I'd give Brock a brief title reign then the rest of his full time run put him in mid card feuds.

Same with Batista,Although I'd give him two title reigns if he stays the full next two years with his 2nd reign ending in his last match
 
I have to go with Brock,Even if he remains part time I honestly wouldn't mind him getting a title reign and even headlining WM XXX

Same here. While it makes his matches more special, his UFC-like schedule is a buzzkill. I wish he would work matches at The Royal Rumble and Survivor Series in addition to WrestleMania, Extreme Rules, and SummerSlam.
 
I really don't see what Cena would gain or benefit by ending Taker's streak.........
 
A few years ago I was an advocate of using the streak to make a new star, and had it been done earlier on then that might have worked. However WWE have built it into such a big deal that I think if it ends then it's used to create the greatest Mania moment since Hogan vs Andre, not to give a guy with a year or two in the business the rub.

As The Batman says you could well throw it away as you don't know who will last, and on top of that I think it could be more of a curse than a blessing, fans are unpredictable and they may well resent some new comer beating an icon, the win could become a millstone around that guys neck.

Edge could have been the guy that straddled both options, he was a main event guy and multi-time Champion, but ending the streak would have taken him to a new level, however he would have been finished 3 years later. Some made the same argument for Batista the year before but listen to the crowd during that match, they did not want Batista to be the guy, he simply was never over enough, just like Sheamus isn't and never will be.

I think the crowd would have accepted Punk ending it but it wasn't the right circumstances for that to happen, and I think if HBK had ended it at Mania 25 the fans would have loved it as in many ways Shawn deserved that moment. At this point I think and feel that it should be Cena, or nobody.

It was interesting to hear Trips mention both Bryan and Punk, when talking about those at the top of the ladder in his most recent sit-down interview with Cole.

The 6 he mentioned were: Orton, Cena, Punk, Bryan, Brosnar and Big Dave.

Setting up the potential Elimination Chamber match?.....In which case does Taker win the Rumble? :hmm
 
And I don't understand the logic in letting an up and comer take the streak when you have no idea where said up and comer might end up.

That's like letting 02' Brock Lesnar end the streak....and then he ups and leaves for football.

Or letting 05' Orton end the streak....and then, he ends up with two wellness violations.

I'm sure people thought it would've been great to let 09' Hardy end the streak too.

I'd rather see a guy who's proven he can and will carry the company take the streak instead of having Taker lose to some guy who's only popular at a particular moment. Guys like Punk, Bryan, or even Cena are more deserving of ending the streak than someone like Sheamus or Big E.

Not to mention there are other ways of putting people over and building stars.

Well, that's tremendously silly. Going by your logic, no one should ever win because who knows what's going to happen tomorrow, right?

Let's just beat everyone until they've been in the company for ten years.

Again, none of those guys beating Taker will do ANYTHING. Cena will be just as big as a star the next day as he was the day before.

I will say, Cena's match would probably be the most exciting simply because it's Cena and there would be doubt as to if he'd actually lose. But it's not worth it in the long term.
 
Batista,Brock,Cena,D-Bry,Orton and Punk in the Chamber match would be awesome but so then the Rumble winner would be none of them!?
 
I really don't see what Cena would gain or benefit by ending Taker's streak.........

You could argue a massive achievement that would propel in the discussion of the biggest stars of all time, basically upping his legendary status.
 
I just think Taker should retire with the streak in tact at this point.
 
But he's already there.

He is and he isn't. A lot of people wouldn't put him up there with the biggest stars because of certain circumstances. I'm just using the idea behind the argument.
 
It's a damn shame about Trips's ego/inferiority complex,Him vs people like..

Alberto Del Rio
Antonio Cesaro
Big E Langston
CM Punk in a rematch
Daniel Bryan
Dean Ambrose
Dolph Ziggler
Rey Mysterio
Roman Reigns
Seth Rollins

Would be quality But the likely results of him going over all or most of them just ain't good business!
 
Triple H is in the stage of his career where, like his best friend Shawn Michaels did, he should be putting over the younger guys (and sometimes, special attraction guys).


But for some reason (perhaps the inferiority complex he has so clearly had since the late 90s), he just can't do that.
 
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