Homecoming The Mary-Jane Casting Poll - Part 3

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I honestly feel like they had MJ remixed with a bit of early Gwen and Liz. I know I've read somewhere similar, but it's just so apparent when rewatching the films. That's why I hold Gwen in TASM series on a pedestal because she was an actual likable character and I bought the relationship between Peter and Gwen far more than Peter and MJ of the OT. Sure, there were some issues from the OT carried over here but the chemistry is what kept it flowing better.

Anyways, I really hope when the time comes to get MJ in this new series, she's everything a guy would want (for both Peter and the audience). If they can do that (while keeping the expected MJ traits), we're golden.

:whatever: LOL!

The TASM Gwen is 100% MJ's personality from the comics with an added like of science and blonde hair. Even Emma Stone has said they changed the character. She was originally playing MJ then they changed it to Gwen and they still wanted Stone. So.... yeah TASM Gwen is literally MJ, haha. And the only reason for the Peter/Gwen chemistry in TASM is because of Garfield/Stone who actually liked each other.

This forum is so silly, isn't it?
 
:whatever: LOL!

The TASM Gwen is 100% MJ's personality from the comics with an added like of science and blonde hair. Even Emma Stone has said they changed the character. She was originally playing MJ then they changed it to Gwen and they still wanted Stone. So.... yeah TASM Gwen is literally MJ, haha. And the only reason for the Peter/Gwen chemistry in TASM is because of Garfield/Stone who actually liked each other.

This forum is so silly, isn't it?

That's actually not true. When Emma was it talks for the role some people just assumed that she was gonna play MJ, but she was always gonna play Gwen.
 
That's actually not true. When Emma was it talks for the role some people just assumed that she was gonna play MJ, but she was always gonna play Gwen.

Sorry... but no? Originally, Mary Jane AND Gwen Stacy was in TASM but they wanted to differ from the OT so they chucked MJ went with only Gwen instead and wanted Emma Stone and that was the role she was originally approached for. Ya know, hence the red hair and spunky, sarcastic, cool girl role type Emma Stone got so famous for? Remember when everyone was so confused and shocked that she was playing Gwen? Anway, once they decided on only Gwen Stone was still on the shortlist (along with other actresses) and they asked her about playing Gwen even though she fit MJ better. She got the role because she was funny and had fantastic chem with Garfield and then the rest is history.

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the shortlist of actresses before they decided on Gwen were all auditioning for both MJ AND Gwen!
 

Uh oh, triggered someone. :o

The TASM Gwen is 100% MJ's personality from the comics with an added like of science and blonde hair. Even Emma Stone has said they changed the character. She was originally playing MJ then they changed it to Gwen and they still wanted Stone. So.... yeah TASM Gwen is literally MJ, haha. And the only reason for the Peter/Gwen chemistry in TASM is because of Garfield/Stone who actually liked each other.

You were correct in that both MJ and Gwen being in TASM originally but wherever you got Gwen being INO with MJ's personality? :loco:

This forum is so silly, isn't it?

Based on a post you disagree with? Got'cha. :whatever:
 
Sorry... but no? Originally, Mary Jane AND Gwen Stacy was in TASM but they wanted to differ from the OT so they chucked MJ went with only Gwen instead and wanted Emma Stone and that was the role she was originally approached for. Ya know, hence the red hair and spunky, sarcastic, cool girl role type Emma Stone got so famous for? Remember when everyone was so confused and shocked that she was playing Gwen? Anway, once they decided on only Gwen Stone was still on the shortlist (along with other actresses) and they asked her about playing Gwen even though she fit MJ better. She got the role because she was funny and had fantastic chem with Garfield and then the rest is history.

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the shortlist of actresses before they decided on Gwen were all auditioning for both MJ AND Gwen!

Do you have a source? And I'm pretty sure Emma was approached to play Gwen and only Gwen. You may be right about both characters being in the film originally though.
 
Uh oh, triggered someone. :o



You were correct in that both MJ and Gwen being in TASM originally but wherever you got Gwen being INO with MJ's personality? :loco:



Based on a post you disagree with? Got'cha. :whatever:

YIKES! You didn't trigger me, but seems like I triggered you? Why does everything on the internet have to be so dramatic? :whatever:

About the MJ/Gwen personality steal, I'll simply put it like this. Have you read any spidey comics at all? In the Amazing Spider-Man comics Gwen is painted as an It Girl who was a rich spoiled daddy's girl with a love of science with a reserved personality, similar to Peter a bit. Gwen loved Peter and hated Spider-Man because she believed he killed her father. That pretty much sums her up since she died and was just used for that plotline and never got much characterization.

Mary Jane is depicted as spunky, sarcastic, tough, etc. A cool party girl with stunning looks. She's playful and fun and loved Spider-Man AND Peter Parker. Besides the cool party girl with stunning looks part, is that not the TASM movie Gwen? :yay:
 
What about Dove Cameron as MJ? She's 20 and is a pretty decent actress.

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Ugh. Not Dove Cameron. She's annoying on that show of hers. If we're going to have another Disney actress, then there are plenty of others apart from her.
 
Ugh. Not Dove Cameron. She's annoying on that show of hers. If we're going to have another Disney actress, then there are plenty of others apart from her.

I thought she was decent in Barely Lethal even though the movie was terrible.

I still want Stefanie Scott though
 
I love Stefanie too.

Speaking of Disney actors though what about Maia Mitchell?
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She might be the best actor suggested so far imo.

She's still in a good age range imo.
 
Yeah I wasn't sure first because we only got 2 pics of her on set and who knows maybe she was wearing a wig. Plus her make-up wasn't done.

But there were new set pictures yesterday and she still wasn't a redhead so.
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Idk how I missed this, and not to be that person, but the style is not indicative of whether or not Zendaya is MJ or not.

Something interesting, the cast recently took a pic where they modeled after The Breakfast Club, Zendaya replicated Allison Reynolds pose, b/c of that pic I can kind respond to this more differently then if I had seen this when it was posted.

Anyway, Zendaya's character style is very similar to the character Allison who also wore long skirts, wore layers, baggy clothing, and had messy hair etc.

Allison also got a makeover, if this is essentially a high school movie and it's also inspired by John Hughes, there's a 90% chance there's a makeover involved, you have to wonder if Zendaya's character is getting a makeover for homecoming.

But how is MJ similar to Allison, despite them not having similar personalities...

In the Breakfast Club, Claire aka 'the princess' i.e the character pose Laura was copying in that cast pic, gave Allison a makeover; in the movie both Allison and Claire had bonded. Who's to say Jon is not gonna do something similar and show the friendship between MJ and Liz forming instead of it automatically being there... Who's to say Liz would not have a hand in the obvious makeover and transformation of Zendaya's character.

Something else, Allison's parents ignored her b/c of their own problems, and I can totally see Jon Watts doing a similar route with MJ by having her parents be at each other's throats arguing, especially if he doesn't want to touch on the whole "abusive father" storyline from 616, I mean since his inspiration is coming from 'Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane', he could adapt the bit where MJ is feeling neglected b/c her mom always works and doesn't spend time with her and her father is not around.

Allison was also a compulsive liar, and while MJ is not, 616!MJ did have the party girl facade, and a facade is nothing but a lie, a defense mechanism, which was what Allison's compulsive lying was.

Now if Zendaya is MJ, why would they style her like this; well in 'Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane' MJ went goth b/c of a breakup, I wouldn't exactly say that Zendaya looks goth in that pic, and I don't see Jon following that storyline, but I can see Jon making this style the result of her home situation, or maybe she doesn't care how she looks, the fact that MJ is at this school of science and technology has me believing they're pulling 1610!MJ aka Brainy Jane into this instead of stylish 616!MJ, which would also make sense considering Jon Watts said the Ultimate version is his inspiration, so either options or both could be resulting in this style.

So while 90% of me doesn't believe Zendaya is MJ, the styling of the character can't be the sole reason why she's not MJ.

And you should never use Zendaya's lack of red hair as proof she's not MJ, there was always a 99℅ chance she was never gonna be a redhead if she was MJ in the first place (90% at the least), Hollywood and people in general don't even think non-white people can be natural redheads in the first place.

I think I'm gonna post this in the Michelle thread.

Also Stefanie Scott is always an A+ fancast for MJ.
 
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And you should never use Zendaya's lack of red hair as proof she's not MJ, there was always a 99℅ chance she was never gonna be a redhead if she was MJ in the first place (90% at the least), Hollywood and people in general don't even think non-white people can be natural redheads in the first place.
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And yet I do :oldrazz:

If Hollywood is ready to racebend a character that has been white for decades, then seriously they would think that people can grasp the concept of a black woman with red hair, as many many fanarts showed.

They wouldn't do the transition but stop half way and thinking "people aren't ready for red hair yet...".

MJ's hair color is one of the most famous physical feature, Peter calls even her 'Red'.
So not making her a redhead would just be...:loco:
 
I love Stefanie too.

Speaking of Disney actors though what about Maia Mitchell?
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She might be the best actor suggested so far imo.

She's still in a good age range imo.

Not a bad actress just too old imo, and doesn't really fit the role type wise.
 
If not for her rather questionable acting, Kat McNamara would be my #1 pic. She's got the look, the fashionable style, she's only a few months older than tom and she's expressed a desire to play the part a few times
 
Idk how I missed this, and not to be that person, but the style is not indicative of whether or not Zendaya is MJ or not.

Something interesting, the cast recently took a pic where they modeled after The Breakfast Club, Zendaya replicated Allison Reynolds pose, b/c of that pic I can kind respond to this more differently then if I had seen this when it was posted.

Anyway, Zendaya's character style is very similar to the character Allison who also wore long skirts, wore layers, baggy clothing, and had messy hair etc.

Allison also got a makeover, if this is essentially a high school movie and it's also inspired by John Hughes, there's a 90% chance there's a makeover involved, you have to wonder if Zendaya's character is getting a makeover for homecoming.

But how is MJ similar to Allison, despite them not having similar personalities...

In the Breakfast Club, Claire aka 'the princess' i.e the character pose Laura was copying in that cast pic, gave Allison a makeover; in the movie both Allison and Claire had bonded. Who's to say Jon is not gonna do something similar and show the friendship between MJ and Liz forming instead of it automatically being there... Who's to say Liz would not have a hand in the obvious makeover and transformation of Zendaya's character.

Something else, Allison's parents ignored her b/c of their own problems, and I can totally see Jon Watts doing a similar route with MJ by having her parents be at each other's throats arguing, especially if he doesn't want to touch on the whole "abusive father" storyline from 616, I mean since his inspiration is coming from 'Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane', he could adapt the bit where MJ is feeling neglected b/c her mom always works and doesn't spend time with her and her father is not around.

Allison was also a compulsive liar, and while MJ is not, 616!MJ did have the party girl facade, and a facade is nothing but a lie, a defense mechanism, which was what Allison's compulsive lying was.

Now if Zendaya is MJ, why would they style her like this; well in 'Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane' MJ went goth b/c of a breakup, I wouldn't exactly say that Zendaya looks goth in that pic, and I don't see Jon following that storyline, but I can see Jon making this style the result of her home situation, or maybe she doesn't care how she looks, the fact that MJ is at this school of science and technology has me believing they're pulling 1610!MJ aka Brainy Jane into this instead of stylish 616!MJ, which would also make sense considering Jon Watts said the Ultimate version is his inspiration, so either options or both could be resulting in this style.

So while 90% of me doesn't believe Zendaya is MJ, the styling of the character can't be the sole reason why she's not MJ.

And you should never use Zendaya's lack of red hair as proof she's not MJ, there was always a 99℅ chance she was never gonna be a redhead if she was MJ in the first place (90% at the least), Hollywood and people in general don't even think non-white people can be natural redheads in the first place.

I think I'm gonna post this in the Michelle thread.

Also Stefanie Scott is always an A+ fancast for MJ.

This was a very interesting read. I would love that direction as long as the character evolves into the MJ we know. I'll be really upset if Zendaya is MJ and she doesn't eventually have red hair and all the typical MJ traits.

Based on the above theory let's just say Zendaya is MJ in Homecoming. However, I don't think we'll be seeing 616 MJ what so ever. This will be the precursor to that MJ. Like that girl everyone called ugly, weird, nerdy or invisible in high school but suddenly, is hot in senior year or college or whatever and becomes the cool, popular, unattainable girl. That's a typical trope of John Hughes movies and teen movies/tv in general, I could see it.

I also noticed something and have a theory. Notice the purple streak and combat boots of Zendaya's character on set? I think those are little Mary Jane clues. The purple streak is an indication that she likes crazy colors/experimenting and will dye her hair red later on. The shirt and skirt aren't MJ but the boots scream MJ to me, they're so something she would wear. They fit her personality perfectly, it gives you hints at her future style. Boots and purple streak are little hints, I'm telling you! But that's just my 2 cents. ;)
 
If not for her rather questionable acting, Kat McNamara would be my #1 pic. She's got the look, the fashionable style, she's only a few months older than tom and she's expressed a desire to play the part a few times

Same, but she's so bad! Oh well! Guess it's Stefanie Scott or Zendaya for me!
 
Yeah I wasn't sure first because we only got 2 pics of her on set and who knows maybe she was wearing a wig. Plus her make-up wasn't done.

But there were new set pictures yesterday and she still wasn't a redhead so.
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Well, it's not like MJ "has" to have a red hair in the movie. Liz won't be blonde for instance.
 
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MJ would never dress like that. And if she somehow was MJ, she'd be an "In Name Only" type deal. But that's besides the fact that she was already confirmed to be Michelle.
 
MJ would never dress like that. And if she somehow was MJ, she'd be an "In Name Only" type deal. But that's besides the fact that she was already confirmed to be Michelle.

If we're talking 616 technically we never see what she was like growing up. That might be the idea they're going with. Well, if she wasn't confirmed as Michelle.
 
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