the massive plothole thread

[david icke]

it's not really a plot hole as such, but in back to the future, marty can go to any point in time when he is in the 50's and even realises this when he says 'I can go back earlier and warn him' and changes the time on the flux capacitor for 10 mins earlier. why 10 minutes earlier, why not an hour or day?

Because Marty's internal clock for travelling distances is usually measured by skateboard speed, it had been a while since he hoofed it by foot.

 

[Majik1387]

Would Harvey's suit be a plothole or a goof, as the hospital would have cut it off of him and disposed of it with medical waste?

It would be more of a goof if anything. It doesn't contradict the plot of the movie in any way, and it's not like it was an impossible feat for him to have gotten the suit back off-screen.

 

[~†~§iX~†~]

Just remembered an undeniable plot hole, and it isn't anything to do with Batman.

In Blade, Frost needs the heads of all the vampire houses to raise La Magra, but Racquel kills one of the 12 beforee the ritual begins.

 

[spider-neil]

Just remembered an undeniable plot hole, and it isn't anything to do with Batman.

In Blade, Frost needs the heads of all the vampire houses to raise La Magra, but Racquel kills one of the 12 beforee the ritual begins.

yeah, that one is massive.

 

[Travesty]

I guess I need to watch the whole film again. As I've said before I do think the film has plot holes I just still don't think the holes are as glaring as some have stated. However, the criticisms you've made are legitimate ones. It's a shame Nolan didn't spend a little more time making some of these scenes make a little more sense because I still don't have a problem with the joker's over plan and backup plans.

Well, I'm not a big fan of the film, so when I see things that don't make sense, they kinda stick out like a sore thumb to me.

As for Nolan, I don't really think he had any more time to explain anything, as the movie is pretty long as it is. Hell, I wish he included the scene of The Joker leaving into a car, right after the Penthouse party, cause I know they filmed it. But, I'm still confused how he got away so easily. There's only one elevator that leads to the Penthouse, so there really wasn't many ways for The Joker to get away. So why did Batman just let him leave? Anyways, I can go on, but I'll just let this go....

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

The blast occurs exactly 1:34:55 into the film. There are 6-7 cops surrounding Joker in the office he was at. The bomb clearly killed the 4 paramedics, and the 6-7 officers that were in the room. Lau's holding cell was across the offices, and everybody died except for him and Lau. Hmmm, blind luck, I assume.

Not everyone died from that explosion. Det. Stephens, the man who the Joker took hostage, lives throughout the entire movie. "Hey, Jim, get a load of this." So if he lives, then it's not so hard to believe the Joker did as well. I always thought that various debris knocked out anyone who was in the way and the Joker knew precisely where to stand. He cut Stephens' throat, either from accident or on purpose, then dropped him, and was safe from the explosion.

 

[Theweepeople]

Well, I'm not a big fan of the film, so when I see things that don't make sense, they kinda stick out like a sore thumb to me.

As for Nolan, I don't really think he had any more time to explain anything, as the movie is pretty long as it is. Hell, I wish he included the scene of The Joker leaving into a car, right after the Penthouse party, cause I know they filmed it. But, I'm still confused how he got away so easily. There's only one elevator that leads to the Penthouse, so there really wasn't many ways for The Joker to get away. So why did Batman just let him leave? Anyways, I can go on, but I'll just let this go....

This plot hole always bothered me. The police would arrive in a few minutes so the Joker and his thugs would have to shoot their way out of the penthouse.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

It's not a plot hole if you don't know what happened. Use your imagination.

 

[dark_b]

plothole threads always bring the hardcore crazy geeks out of us hehehehe

 

[SuperFerret]

Here's a plothole: People caring that much about a politician (Harvey Dent) that knowing that he became a supervillain would result in chaos.

I guarantee if Barack Obama became Two-Face tomorrow, some people would become all ********, but most of us would be like, "Well, that's really not all that surprising, and hey, at least he's not completely insane."

 

[The Joker]

Barack Obama is not seen as the savior of a city that's been lost in crime and corruption for decades.

 

[SuperFerret]

Washington D.C.?

 

[The Joker]

Washington D.C.?

You equate that to Nolan's Gotham City?

 

[SuperFerret]

Jokingly, yes.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Didn't he miss the first kick and thus get more time?

I thought this too but I don't quite remember.

Besides, I don't pay attention to plot holes if they are only very big ones. It's called suspension of disbelief. Movies wouldn't be as exciting without some. Like Raiders. My mention was more for humor, but if that truly happened, the movie would have sucked.

 

[Travesty]

It's not a plot hole if you don't know what happened. Use your imagination.

But that's a blatant omission of relevant information. So Batman was just like, "ahhh, whatever, I'm trying to protect Harvey Dent, and I just dove out a window for my women, but I'll just let this clown easily get away from MY own penthouse...no biggie. Oh, and everybody who is upstairs(Alfred, Harvey, and guests)? Yeah forget them, they can screw themselves".

 

[Travesty]

Not everyone died from that explosion. Det. Stephens, the man who the Joker took hostage, lives throughout the entire movie. "Hey, Jim, get a load of this." So if he lives, then it's not so hard to believe the Joker did as well. I always thought that various debris knocked out anyone who was in the way and the Joker knew precisely where to stand. He cut Stephens' throat, either from accident or on purpose, then dropped him, and was safe from the explosion.

But The Joker was just as much in the way of debris as everyone else. Hell, people who were in front of The Joker were apparently killed/knocked out, except for him and Lau. If the cops were just stunned, and not killed, then The Joker should have been as well. I mean, he wasn't even dazed at all. He just walked away, and went straight to Lau's cell.

And if The Joker knew "where to stand", he also had the insight that he would be able to take an officer out that was watching him, because he knew he would get into a scuffle with Batman, so that the glass would break, so he could take the officer hostage, to take him to "the magic spot", to where he wouldn't be affected by the blast that he had set up?

 

[~†~§iX~†~]

Total Film's Top 40 Baffling Movie Plot Holes.

 

[Travesty]

Total Film's Top 40 Baffling Movie Plot Holes.

Transformers (2007)

The Plot Hole: An unnecessary problem caused by Michael Bay trying to be down with the cool kids.
Sam Witwicky (Shia LaBeouf), aka 'Ladiesman217,' has put a pair of glasses on eBay. By unfortunate coincidence, these are exactly the same glasses that the Decepticons are looking for because they contain the roadmap to where the All Spark is.
However, we later learn that the Decepticons can hack into the United States military network with ease, so surely placing a bid on eBay would be a walk in the park

Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade (1989)

The Plot Hole: The ‘Word of God’ challenge makes a big point about certain death befalling anybody who steps onto the wrong letters – as proved when Indy gets his ancient alphabet wrong and steps onto a J.
Trouble is, the only way he can stop himself falling through the hole is by grabbing hold of the adjacent letters, neither of which is the correct one. How come they don’t fall?

I never even thought of this one. Good catch.

Back To The Future (1985)

The Plot Hole: Marty McFly’s interference in the events of 1955 have changed his own family’s future for the better.
So how come George and Lorraine don't remember “Calvin Klein,” the kid who brought them together and inspired George’s career as a sci-fi novelist...?
...and who, more importantly, looks exactly like their son?

Haha, this is one I've always thought about.

The Shawshank Redemption (1994)

The Plot Hole: Andy Dufresne (Tim Robbins) has apparently disappeared from his prison cell, until warden Norton (Bob Gunton) tears a poster of Racquel Welch from the wall to reveal the great big gaping entrance to Andy's escape tunnel.
We're not sure what stretches belief the most: the fact that Andy's first instinct after decades of captivity was to neatly re-attach the poster to the wall...or that he was able to achieve this from inside the tunnel.

This was really the only one that I could disagree with. All he had to do, was attach the top, and the bottom would just drape down like a curtain.

 

[spider-neil]

Haha, this is one I've always thought about.

the mcfly's definately knew marty was the boy who made it possible for them to get together. they would have seen their son grow into the spitting image of someone who had a major influence on their life, but why bother to tell marty? to what end?

This was really the only one that I could disagree with. All he had to do, was attach the top, and the bottom would just drape down like a curtain.

that's exactly how he did it. sticky tape at the top and a coins down the bottom to weight it down.

 

[~†~§iX~†~]

The Batman Begins one about the microwave emitter not liquifying people has always bugged me, but I never even thought about anyone boiling a kettle with the tainted water.

 

[Travesty]

The Batman Begins one about the microwave emitter not liquifying people has always bugged me, but I never even thought about anyone boiling a kettle with the tainted water.

Well, the microwave emitter is a focused beam. It's not a microwave bomb that microwaves everything around, it's focused(like a ray), and was even explained in the movie. But, the part about people who are taking a shower or boiling water is a plothole.

 

[chaseter]

Peter asked Harry where Ock was, and it then cuts to Doc Ock's lair, where Spidey shows up like a minute later. We're led to believe that Harry told him, when there's no way Harry could have known.

They're plot holes.

I don't think Harry told him anything. Harry didn't care about MJ and Peter at that point. The big glowing warehouse out on the pier probably gave away his position.

Which begs the question why didn't Ock just do that instead of going through all the trouble of finding and capturing Spider-Man, when he could have got the tritium there and then?

Because Harry didn't yet have the tritium. Do you think Harry keeps 5 pounds of tritium in his wall safe at all times. Harry said go get Spider-Man and I will get you your tritium. Plus, Ock wants to get rid of Spider-Man so he doesn't interfere with his work. It's a win/win for Ock. Get rid of Spider-Man and get really expensive and really rare tritium.

Ok, first of all Ock didn't want to capture Peter. He wanted him to find Spider-Man for him. No matter what way you swing it there was no logical reason for him to hurl a car at a guy he needed alive.

The only thing Doc Ock knows is that Peter Parker and Spider-Man know each other. Doc Ock doesn't care if he kills or hurts Peter. If he kills Peter or hurts him really badly, then Spider-Man is going to find out and come after Ock. Ock then takes MJ as hostage to use as leverage. He isn't delivering a message to Peter Parker, he is delivering a message to Spider-Man.

Plus, Ock is just creating mayhem. He didn't know they were in the cafe. The car happened to land in the cafe they were at. You can tell that because Doc Ock is surprised to see them together in the cafe. Listen to his tone when he says: "Peter Parker...and the girlfriend!" If he knew that they were in the cafe together, he wouldn't have sounded surprised to see them both. He was just trying to make Spider-Man or Peter, who is a photographer, come out in the open. Peter Parker takes pictures for a living, if Doc Ock is out creating mayhem, Parker is going to come out to take pictures or Spider-Man is going to come out to fight him.

 

[spider-neil]

I don't think Harry told him anything. Harry didn't care about MJ and Peter at that point. The big glowing warehouse out on the pier probably gave away his position.


Because Harry didn't yet have the tritium. Do you think Harry keeps 5 pounds of tritium in his wall safe at all times. Harry said go get Spider-Man and I will get you your tritium. Plus, Ock wants to get rid of Spider-Man so he doesn't interfere with his work. It's a win/win for Ock. Get rid of Spider-Man and get really expensive and really rare tritium.


The only thing Doc Ock knows is that Peter Parker and Spider-Man know each other. Doc Ock doesn't care if he kills or hurts Peter. If he kills Peter or hurts him really badly, then Spider-Man is going to find out and come after Ock. Ock then takes MJ as hostage to use as leverage. He isn't delivering a message to Peter Parker, he is delivering a message to Spider-Man.

Plus, Ock is just creating mayhem. He didn't know they were in the cafe. The car happened to land in the cafe they were at. You can tell that because Doc Ock is surprised to see them together in the cafe. Listen to his tone when he says: "Peter Parker...and the girlfriend!" If he knew that they were in the cafe together, he wouldn't have sounded surprised to see them both. He was just trying to make Spider-Man or Peter, who is a photographer, come out in the open. Peter Parker takes pictures for a living, if Doc Ock is out creating mayhem, Parker is going to come out to take pictures or Spider-Man is going to come out to fight him.

 

[danoyse]

the mcfly's definately knew marty was the boy who made it possible for them to get together. they would have seen their son grow into the spitting image of someone who had a major influence on their life, but why bother to tell marty? to what end?

In the novelization (yeah, I still have it ), he did ask them whatever happened to "the other guy." They didn't know what he was talking about at first, so he added "You know, the guy I was named after." They just shrug and say they never saw him again, but Lorraine looks at him a little closer for a second and then just says she didn't remember ever mentioning him before. Marty just says she must have, because how else would he know about it?