The Matrix Trilogy

[Cmill216]

The first is a bonafide classic and i liked some of Reloaded and felt the trilogy could still be saved until i saw Revolutions

QFT.

This was going to be this generation's Star Wars, until The Wachowski Brothers brought themselves back down to Earth.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Wouldn't be a trilogy then would it?

Class time

TRILOGY

From TRI meaning three.

There is no BILOGY, or MONOLOGY, TRILOGY is where it starts, then QUADRILOGY, then SAGA.

Class dismissed t:

Hate to do this to you....but Quadrilogy is wrong. They made up that word for the Alien DVD set. It still has the 'ril' in there from trilogy. The proper word would be quadlogy.

 

[matrix_ghost]

The Final Battle was the only good bit of the last film, but I still think the Smiths could have swarmed Neo... he fought 1000 in the Burly Brawl and barely got away... this is 6.5 billion Smiths.

Have you read the original script for Reloaded?

Agent Smith 2.0 in place of Smith. He had a ponytail and was more burly.

Neo tried blowing up MetaCortechs, his old workplace, because his boss was still in there t: , no, he tried to blow it up because it was the Machine Mainframe, which was relocated after Tank was dropped from the casting to...

#this would be the part someone finishes the sentence#

And you know this was a fanmade script right. The whole gregory crap

If you want to really see what Reloaded and Revolutions might have been , try getting some info on the abandoned sequences of the movie or at least how the freeway chase was supposed to end , or even better how the burly brawl was supposed to end.
I still very much prefer that version of the burly brawl as opposed to the movie version.

Still it beats out most movies in terms of CG realism.

 

[matrix_ghost]

The first is a bonafide classic and i liked some of Reloaded and felt the trilogy could still be saved until i saw Revolutions

Just what exactly is is that you didn't like in Reloaded and Revolutions hunter ?
Just curious

 

[Prognosticator]

I'm not HR, but I didn't like the interpretation of Zion, its misuse for an action base in Revolutions, Neo's crossover powers into the real world (which really didn't make sense to be honest), everyone dying (although I've gotten over that one), and the white guy who acted as a constant antagonist for everything the hero's did on the nebakanezer.

 

[Dan33977]

TRILOGY

From TRI meaning three.

There is no BILOGY, or MONOLOGY, TRILOGY is where it starts, then QUADRILOGY, then SAGA.

Class dismissed t:

You're an idiot. Please look up your facts next time you try to correct someone.

The word "trilogy" uses the Greek prefix for the number 3, so the correct term in this case would be "tetralogy" because it uses the Greek prefix for the number 4, not the Latin prefix. Likewise, duology (2), pentalogy (5), hexology (6), and heptalogy (7) are the correct terms for their corresponding numbers, so it doesn't "start" with trilogy and the word "saga" is completely unrelated.

Hate to do this to you....but Quadrilogy is wrong. They made up that word for the Alien DVD set. It still has the 'ril' in there from trilogy. The proper word would be quadlogy.

No, you're wrong, too.

I commented on his error before, but I didn't explain why he was wrong, so I'm sorry.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

You're an idiot. Please look up your facts next time you try to correct someone.

The word "trilogy" uses the Greek prefix for the number 3, so the correct term in this case would be "tetralogy" because it uses the Greek prefix for the number 4, not the Latin prefix. Likewise, duology (2), pentalogy (5), hexology (6), and heptalogy (7) are the correct terms for their corresponding numbers, so it doesn't "start" with trilogy and the word "saga" is completely unrelated.



No, you're wrong, too.

I commented on his error before, but I didn't explain why he was wrong, so I'm sorry.

You're right, I am wrong. 'Quadrilogy' sounds cooler though.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

When I think of The Matrix, I think of this...

...and not this...

Meaning, I think of the mind-blowing, electrifying, super-sleek and ultra, ultra cool state-of-the-art sci-fi mindjob which is one of the defining 90's movies. Rather than the bloated, entertaining yet forced sequels.

 

[Lazlo Panaflex]

I slept throught the middle of Matrix Revolutions, yeah it was that bad.

 

[ggctuk]

And you know this was a fanmade script right. The whole gregory crap

If you want to really see what Reloaded and Revolutions might have been , try getting some info on the abandoned sequences of the movie or at least how the freeway chase was supposed to end , or even better how the burly brawl was supposed to end.
I still very much prefer that version of the burly brawl as opposed to the movie version.

Still it beats out most movies in terms of CG realism.

A fan made script that made it onto the Internet Movie Script Database? Nah, it was actually a first draft as well. Otherwise IMSDb swould NOT be hosting it. Every other script is almost true to the films (save for the odd different line).

 

[matrix_ghost]

I still don't buy it as a first draft.
There are tons of fake crap that are hosted on "legit "sites. I mean look at SHH. There's some fanmade poster of SPidey 3 made on these forums and it just keeps on popping up on different sites as a real poster of SM3.

So yeah i just don't buy it really. Granted it does have some similarities with the Reloaded and Revolutions but IMO i think it was moreof someone trying to piece together info that he/she got from numerous rumors , spy-reports and th matrix comics.

Also i think the greogry script was inspired by the first draft of the first matrix movie. It's in the art of the matrix.
Finally if you also look at the first drafts of the first movie , you'll see that the final shooting script doesn't differ that much. Some scenes are changed/removed. Some lines are tweakes but essentially it's there.

Compare that with the Gregory script . It's bears some similarities BUT IMO the shooting draft of Reloaded and this script are really on opposite ends. So deep philosophy. Just action.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Just what exactly is is that you didn't like in Reloaded and Revolutions hunter ?
Just curious

With Reloaded i felt dialogue wise it got bogged down with the double talk and cod philosophy but it wasn't until the architect stuff that it really killed it for me.

Revolutions just bored me once Neo was free'd.all that stuff on Zion,the endless CGI fest of the squids fighting second string characters,the end just bored me as well with Neo talking to the giant pinhead and then having that warmed over fight with Agent Smith.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

To me, the Burly Brawl (Neo vs a hundred or so Smiths) should have been the climax to Revolutions. It's a basic storytelling rule; the threat to the hero increases throughout the story. When the hero has beaten one challenge, the next one is greater. Neo fighting 100 Smiths, then just one in Revolutions, is an anti-climax.

 

[Jack_Sparrow789]

I felt all three films were incredible. Say what you want, but its what I think.

Each has its own individual strengths and trying to compare The Matrix to The Matrix Reloaded and The Matrix Revolutions is like apples and oranges.

The Matrix was fresh and original, part of the 90s cinematic revolution. It was thought provoking and entertaining all at once, deep enough to warrant lots of discussion, but also had enough new special effects and action to thoroughly entertain. I brought a decade f incredible films to a close with the biggest bang ever, and has since become an acknowledged classic with a great deal of influence on sco-fi movies such as Equilibrium, etc.

The Matrix Reloaded, which of course not as fresh and original, seing as how it was a sequel, proved just as thought-provoking as its predecessor, albeit with more obscure philosophical themes. The spceial effects were vastly improved, as well as the action. Though not as influential and original as the first film, it still proved to be a thoroughly entertaining thrill ride.

The Matrix Revolutions finds itself unfortunately on the heels to two already great films, so any flaws are going to be judged far more harshly when compared to the other films. The main flaw being the lack of time spent in the matrix, where all the best action, philosophical dialogue, and overal entertainment lies. However, the special effects used for the battle of zion were only outshined by the final battle between Neo and Smith. On that note, the climax of the movie is more than worth the wait it takes to get back to Neo's journey. Personally, that final battle through the rain of the city ovverrun by Smith, now taking one of the apocalyptic turns in movie history. Even most disaster films based on reality didnt have near the impending sense of doom that the climactic battle had.

All in all, I find that the trilogy was easily the best sci-fi series after Star Wars, and deserves way most credit than people give it.

 

[Soapy]

The first film is one of my favorites of all time. Great action and very thought-provoking, as others have said.

The second and third films had some good action and were also thought provoking, although probably not in the way the Waichowskis wanted.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

I love all 3..pretty much equally.

3 was a bit choppy though..

 

[shapeshifter]

I thought the movies had a lot of potential. I was blown away by the first one. Not very often does a movie have great special effects and a good story to back it.
This movie reset the bar much like T2, and Jurassic Park had in the past.

As the trilogy unfolded I grew more and more disappointed though. The effects that were so new and exciting in the first movie drew yawns by the end of the second.
The story really kind of stalled, and it almost seems like the writers stopped trying as hard after the first movie did so well. So they just stayed in a rut.
I think the movie suffered from the sequel curse.
The third movie was so drawn out and repetitive, I really didn't enjoy it.

 

[Warhammer]

You know, I would've loved for there to be a scene when Smith overwrites the Merovengian. Just a thought...

 

[DarthRekal]

the only part i liked was the club sequence with Monica Belluci's boobah's in a gargantuan struggle to get out of that leather dress.......

postacular

 

[Immortalfire]

 

[Apollo]

i actually liked the 2nd and 3rd films

 

[bullets]

the sequels killed it .

 

[Cmill216]

Amazing how this franchise mirrored the Pirates franchise:

1st Movie - Classic
2nd Movie - Meh. Solid at best.
3rd Movie - An Abomination

 

[Apollo]

pretty much all moves that reach the 3rd film suck

 

[Damiean Dark]

The Matrix is probably the greatest sc-fi film ever that wasnt based on a comic or book and is high up on my best ever sc-fi movie list.