The MMA Thread

[CrypticOne]

Any guesses on the next UFC Heavyweight Champion?

 

[Johnny Blaze]

Any guesses on the next UFC Heavyweight Champion?

Big Nog is who I'm pulling for, and I think he's got the best chances. He's got a tough test with Kongo, but if he gets it to the ground it's over.
He'll also, more than likely, have to face the winner of the Sylvia/Vera bout after that for the belt.

Personally, I think Sylvia will bounce back and win, but I'm pulling for The Truth as I'm not a Maine-Iac fan.

 

[The FallenAngel]

I'm thinking Big Nog wins the title. Kongo will get destroyed on the ground against him.

I'm also hoping Vera beats the crap out of Sylvia. I can't stand that guy.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

I'm thinking Big Nog wins the title. Kongo will get destroyed on the ground against him.

I'm also hoping Vera beats the crap out of Sylvia. I can't stand that guy.

I'm not a fan of his either, though he is a good fighter.

My buddy's wife is a hardcore Sylvia fan. I really hope Vera wins just so I can run my mouth. Plus I'd love to see a Nog/Vera match for the belt. Would probably be a nice technical match like Nog's battles with Barnett.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Damn, Anderson Silve is a killer. Respect for Franklin for giving it his all, but Silva is just too much for him. Franklin isn't fast enough and Silva appears to be deceivingly strong.

Who is going to challenge him? I mean seriously? He nearly killed Franklin in their first fight. He destroyed Lebon like he was practice and although the fight was better the second time around with Franklin, the outcome was never in question.

Great Silvia won, I hope he isn't Heavyweight champ. Someone needs to come up in the heavyweight division and kick some ass. Too bad the natrual is gone.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

It was good to have the right picks for this one since I was screwed last time with picking Shogun and Liddell.
Didn't get to actually see the event, but from what I've read Silva demolished Ace once again. I think it's funny that my friend tries to tell me that Silva is not a great striker.
Heh, I guess Franklin would have something to say to that.

As for Sylvia, I figured he'd win it. Though I didn't want him to.
I guess now he'll sit back and await the winner of the Nog/Kongo match. Probably put him and the winner on the SB card in February for the title.

As for who can challenge Silva, I think the only person who can take him that's in the UFC is Dan Henderson (though he's still working out a new contract). Only problem is that Dan has said he plans to stick at 205 and not drop down, though he's a natural 185 fighter.

I'd have liked to see the UFC go out and sign somebody like Denis Kang, Robbie Lawler, or Matt Lindland. But they let Kang sign elsewhere, Lawler is under contract elsewhere, and I don't see Lindland coming back while Dana's still being Dana.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

It was good to have the right picks for this one since I was screwed last time with picking Shogun and Liddell.
Didn't get to actually see the event, but from what I've read Silva demolished Ace once again. I think it's funny that my friend tries to tell me that Silva is not a great striker.
Heh, I guess Franklin would have something to say to that.

As for Sylvia, I figured he'd win it. Though I didn't want him to.
I guess now he'll sit back and await the winner of the Nog/Kongo match. Probably put him and the winner on the SB card in February for the title.

As for who can challenge Silva, I think the only person who can take him that's in the UFC is Dan Henderson (though he's still working out a new contract). Only problem is that Dan has said he plans to stick at 205 and not drop down, though he's a natural 185 fighter.

I'd have liked to see the UFC go out and sign somebody like Denis Kang, Robbie Lawler, or Matt Lindland. But they let Kang sign elsewhere, Lawler is under contract elsewhere, and I don't see Lindland coming back while Dana's still being Dana.

HA! Your friend is on crack. Has he actually watched Silva's fights? You should show him the fight vs. Chris Lebon where he pretty much was just taking target practice with his head.

As for Dan Henderson fighting Silva I think that would be a great match up. But I still would favor Silva.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

Yeah, he's seen his fights and I've told him he needs to lay off the stem plenty of times when we're talking about Silva. He just has some hatred for The Spider is all and is letting that make him ignorant.
I've told him plenty of times that Silva is one of the top strikers in the sport, and he calls me crazy.

He's a Franklin fan too, and was telling me at the bar a few weeks back how Ace was going to take back his belt come the 20th.
Heh, now I can't wait to see him again so I can let him have it. I love talking smack to ignorant bastards.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Yeah, he's seen his fights and I've told him he needs to lay off the stem plenty of times when we're talking about Silva. He just has some hatred for The Spider is all and is letting that make him ignorant.
I've told him plenty of times that Silva is one of the top strikers in the sport, and he calls me crazy.

He's a Franklin fan too, and was telling me at the bar a few weeks back how Ace was going to take back his belt come the 20th.
Heh, now I can't wait to see him again so I can let him have it. I love talking smack to ignorant bastards.

Ha, that's great. Silva is a beast. My friends go back and forth a little about MMA and what not, nothing too serious, but I told them that fighters from not just Brazil but other regions of the world that grow up fighting have it all over most U.S. born figters.

We just don't train the same here in the states as other fighters around the world. Not to mention places like Brazil are much more violent and a lot of kids growing up fighting in general.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

IDK, the US has some good fighters.

Severn, Shamrock, Frye, and Coleman for old school fighters. Couture for both old school and current. As for current...Henderson, Rampage, Lawler, Penn, and Hughes are good MMA fighters. Toss GSP into the mix if you bring in North American fighters, and that's a good list.

So the US does have some talent. Though most of my favorite fighters are from other countries.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

IDK, the US has some good fighters.

Severn, Shamrock, Frye, and Coleman for old school fighters. Couture for both old school and current. As for current...Henderson, Rampage, Lawler, Penn, and Hughes are good MMA fighters. Toss GSP into the mix if you bring in North American fighters, and that's a good list.

So the US does have some talent. Though most of my favorite fighters are from other countries.

I'm not saying they US doesn't have talented fighters. Just saying in general, fighters in other countries train much differently than we do here in the us. I mean take a look at all of the commercialized dojos out there.

Of course this is only a certain percentage, but I mean cardio kick boxing?

Compare that to Mui Tai Kickboxers in Thailand that train for eight hours or more a day and use sticks to deaden their nerves in their shins and kick trees to develop more power in their kicks.

Or in Japan where many Masters can date their masters back for decades or centuries.

Overall in the big picture is what I am talking about. The US does have some great fighters no doubt. But just not as good as other fighters from other countries. Not to mention that we don't even see many of them since a lot of them do not fight for sport.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

I do agree. Some other countries take fighting much more seriously as a way of life than over here. I just had to stick up for my hometown hommies is all.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I feel ya. There are some badass American born fighters, but they are a dime a dozen in other countries.


So is Courtoure really trying to get Fedor in the other MMA association?

 

[Johnny Blaze]

I have no idea. He's already said he's not retiring, despite how Dana White wants to spin it. If he figures he can't take it to court, then he'll have to wait for his contract to be up around mid 08 so he can fight in M-1 and take on Fedor.
Fedor himself stated in his press conference to announce his signing that he wants to take on Couture as well.
Also should see Fedor in action in the US as early as February.


Probably won't be Couture though. Find out what's going on with Randy tomorrow when he holds his press conference in Vegas.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

That's lame. So what is the general consensus about Dana White? Is he a *****e or what?

 

[Norman Osborn]

That's lame. So what is the general consensus about Dana White? Is he a *****e or what?

I don't know about *****e but whatever happened to the Dana vs Tito crap fight they were talking about a year ago??...Dana come to his senses?

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I don't know about *****e but whatever happened to the Dana vs Tito crap fight they were talking about a year ago??...Dana come to his senses?

Probably realized that he would die if he tried to fight Tito.

 

[The FallenAngel]

He actually trained really hard for it, and got in good shape and everything. Tito ended up dropping out at the last minute. At least, that's what I learned of it from that Bad Blood show.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Really? Hmmm that's interesting.

 

[zanos]

That would have been a dumb fight for Dana. I want him to take on either Dan Henderson or Cro Cop.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

That would have been a dumb fight for Dana. I want him to take on either Dan Henderson or Cro Cop.

He'd get alot worse from them then he would from washed up Tito. Henderson would utterly annihilate him, and Mirko would kick his head off of his shoulders in under 30 seconds.









Bottom line about Dana, he's a decent president, but he let's his emotions get the better of him waaaay too much. He needs to cut the crap talking **** about other fighters and their managers just because he's having problems dealing with them.
Look at his comments about Couture and Fedor, and what he said about Wanderlei when he wasn't able to secure the Liddell/Silva fight for November.
He's supposed to be a professional, yet he continually acts like an assclown.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

He'd get alot worse from them then he would from washed up Tito. Henderson would utterly annihilate him, and Mirko would kick his head off of his shoulders in under 30 seconds.









Bottom line about Dana, he's a decent president, but he let's his emotions get the better of him waaaay too much. He needs to cut the crap talking **** about other fighters and their managers just because he's having problems dealing with them.
Look at his comments about Couture and Fedor, and what he said about Wanderlei when he wasn't able to secure the Liddell/Silva fight for November.
He's supposed to be a professional, yet he continually acts like an assclown.

Word I could picture Fedor actually kicking his head off into the first row into David Spade's lap

THat sucks, he seems like a decent guy, I haven't read any of the articles where he's talking smack.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

A few things to watch today...

At 7PM EST on ESPN's Pat Miletich will be featured. Miletich is a former UFC Champ and one of the world's most respected and legendary trainers. They're going to be showing what it's like at his training camp in Iowa and why it's considered one of the toughest in the world (supposedly only one out of one hundred students actually make it through the first few weeks).


Also, Dana White and one of the Fertittas are hosting a press conference today at 4PM EST on UFC.com. They will be answering questions about Couture's comments, supposedly.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

A few things to watch today...

At 7PM EST on ESPN's Pat Miletich will be featured. Miletich is a former UFC Champ and one of the world's most respected and legendary trainers. They're going to be showing what it's like at his training camp in Iowa and why it's considered one of the toughest in the world (supposedly only one out of one hundred students actually make it through the first few weeks).


Also, Dana White and one of the Fertittas are hosting a press conference today at 4PM EST on UFC.com. They will be answering questions about Couture's comments, supposedly.

Yeah I always hear announcers talking about the Militech camp when a fighter is from there and how deadly they are.

But the last few fights I can remember watching with one of them in there, they got handled.

 

[3dman27]

i recently became interested in the real fighting championships shows any fans of that around