The MMA Thread

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I like this BJ Penn, the fights weekend before last were awesome.

 

[CrypticOne]

I like this BJ Penn, the fights weekend before last were awesome.

Yeah, they were pretty quick.

And BJ is a beast. Can't wait 'til he takes out Sherk.

 

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Yeah, they were pretty quick.

And BJ is a beast. Can't wait 'til he takes out Sherk.

Word he is going to destroy him. I didn't really care for penn before because of his lack of work ethic, mostly on cardio. Lazy guys with tons of talent bug me.

But after his last fight against against Pulver I started to be swayed a little and after his most recent fight against Stevenson. I like this Penn now, he seems like he gets it and is ready to take care of business.

 

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This past weekend's UFC card wasn't a disappointment at all. The Tyson Griffen fight was ok. Not boring but not good really, I don't like Griffen and wanted him to lose.

The David Heath vs. Tim Boetsch was an amazing surprise. Boetsch

 

[0neDisturbedSOB]

So far the UFC PPV's this year (all two of them) have been great. If they can all continue like this then we're in for a good year of MMA.

Anyone else wanting to see Pulver vs. Faber? I think Pulver's finally at a weight that really suits him, and where his power is once again a factor. It'd be interesting to see who'd come out on top in that one.

 

[CrypticOne]

So far the UFC PPV's this year (all two of them) have been great. If they can all continue like this then we're in for a good year of MMA.

Anyone else wanting to see Pulver vs. Faber? I think Pulver's finally at a weight that really suits him, and where his power is once again a factor. It'd be interesting to see who'd come out on top in that one.

Pulver/Faber is confirmed?

Yeah, the UFC PPV's have been pretty eventful, I've enjoyed both, so far. They just need to add some electricity to their Fight Nights. The next one looks pretty good though. Can't for it, as it's here in Colorado.

 

[0neDisturbedSOB]

No it's not confirmed, but with Pulver's last performance, I wouldn't be surprised if they fast tracked that fight for Faber's next fight.

UFC 83 is in Ohio, the next fight night (Florian vs. Lauzon) is in Colorado. That has some good fights on it too. Bonnar vs. Hammil should be a good one, especially if Hammil fights like he did when he BEAT Bisping.

 

[3dman27]

i wish sun sports here in fla would air more MMA

 

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I am assuming that should say sun sports here in fla

 

[3dman27]

yeah i hadn't noticed the typeos thanks

 

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I wasn't trying to correct you or anything I just read it and was trying to figure it out.

 

[bell110]

So, how about that Kimbo Slice vs. Tank Abbott fight on the 16th?

 

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Honestly, that isn't even a real main event. They're building an entire show around a main event that features a fight between a guy that should have called it quits about 5 years ago, and a guy that has 16 sec of MMA experience and already thinks he's ready to be champ. I'll go ahead and say Kimbo takes this one because he's younger, stronger, and faster, but in all honesty it doesn't really matter. The Ricco Rodriguez vs. Antonio Silva match is more interesting than this one.

 

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Honestly, that isn't even a real main event. They're building an entire show around a main event that features a fight between a guy that should have called it quits about 5 years ago, and a guy that has 16 sec of MMA experience and already thinks he's ready to be champ. I'll go ahead and say Kimbo takes this one because he's younger, stronger, and faster, but in all honesty it doesn't really matter. The Ricco Rodriguez vs. Antonio Silva match is more interesting than this one.

He's back?

 

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Yeah. Celebrity Rehab was filmed months ago, and I guess he's been cleared to return. They asked him to fight Kimbo Slice and I guess all he said was "that guy is a complete joke, and I wouldn't even step in the same cage as him."

Looks like Cro Cop and UFC have officially parted ways. I think he just wants to get in some "easier" fights to get his confidence back up, and then in about a year or so he'll look to make a UFC return. He's also said he doesn't like fighting in the cage.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

Yeah. Celebrity Rehab was filmed months ago, and I guess he's been cleared to return. They asked him to fight Kimbo Slice and I guess all he said was "that guy is a complete joke, and I wouldn't even step in the same cage as him."

Looks like Cro Cop and UFC have officially parted ways. I think he just wants to get in some "easier" fights to get his confidence back up, and then in about a year or so he'll look to make a UFC return. He's also said he doesn't like fighting in the cage.

Can't say the Cro Cop news surprised me. When the deadline Dana White imposed passed and Mirko still hadn't responded I figured that was the end of him in the UFC.

I know it's being hinted that a Fedor Vs Cro Cop II could take place later this year. And with Arlovski and Sylvia on their way out the door, as well as Barnett being out there, there are a few fighters that Mirko could regain some status with a victory over them.
Course that's if he decides to fight some real competition or do what Fedor is doing now and kick some cans around for a year or two.

 

[0neDisturbedSOB]

I don't think Tim Sylvia is going anywhere. I think the media outlets misconstrued what he said in an attempt to make him look like the next in line to follow Couture's footsteps in leaving the UFC.

 

[Badger]

Honestly, that isn't even a real main event. They're building an entire show around a main event that features a fight between a guy that should have called it quits about 5 years ago, and a guy that has 16 sec of MMA experience and already thinks he's ready to be champ. I'll go ahead and say Kimbo takes this one because he's younger, stronger, and faster, but in all honesty it doesn't really matter. The Ricco Rodriguez vs. Antonio Silva match is more interesting than this one.

Well, I know this will be shocking, Kimbo Slice destroyed Tank. Obviously Kimbo hasn't been matched against a true MMA heavyweight that is at the top or close to the top of the hill, but the dude is fun to watch. They are talking about having him face Ken Shamrock next, depending on if he wins his first fight in EliteXC. The Rodriguez/Silva fight was a borefest. The earlier fights were the best fights of the night.

 

[jaguarr]

Well, I know this will be shocking, Kimbo Slice destroyed Tank. Obviously Kimbo hasn't been matched against a true MMA heavyweight that is at the top or close to the top of the hill, but the dude is fun to watch. They are talking about having him face Ken Shamrock next, depending on if he wins his first fight in EliteXC. The Rodriguez/Silva fight was a borefest. The earlier fights were the best fights of the night.

I watched EliteXC tonight, too. Wasn't expecting much from the "main event". It was about what I expected. The Silva/Rodriguez fight was also pretty uneventful. All in all, not a very good card, really. The earlier fights were "okay". Showtime's production values on this thing are also sh1t. I just feels so amateurish, to be honest. And WTF was up with that terrible rapper they had on before the Kimbo/Tank fight? Lame. I had hopes that EliteXC would grow into something worthwhile when they first started up, but I'm really not seeing it happen.

jag

 

[Bubonic]

I think they just want to build up Kimbo's record, and develop his fighting skills as much as they can before they set him up against someone way too advanced.
He's a nice guy from what I can see in the interviews, hopefully he won't get slaughtered when the time comes to tussle with a pro.
It'll have to be soon, he's already sort of old.
And if they keep putting him up against *****es, losers and old guys people will lose interest.
Tank was pretty pathetic, did he even hit Kimbo?
Guy was on the floor many times, Kimbo should have wacked the ref for being annoying.

 

[Badger]

I watched EliteXC tonight, too. Wasn't expecting much from the "main event". It was about what I expected. The Silva/Rodriguez fight was also pretty uneventful. All in all, not a very good card, really. The earlier fights were "okay". Showtime's production values on this thing are also sh1t. I just feels so amateurish, to be honest. And WTF was up with that terrible rapper they had on before the Kimbo/Tank fight? Lame. I had hopes that EliteXC would grow into something worthwhile when they first started up, but I'm really not seeing it happen.

jag

Yeah, this was the first EliteXC I've watched all the way through and I agree. It wasn't as near as sharp as the UFC, Pride, or even WEC. Hell there's a local MMA Production here in KC that does a better job.

The two fight before the Silva/Rodriguez fight were good, simply because of the knockouts. Though, that is another sign of the lack of MMA talent in EliteXC. The Smith kid that won (I think it's Smith) was average at best in the UFC and on TUF, but in Elite they act as if he was the second coming.

They definitely have a ways to go, I hope they get there. Simply because it will keep the UFC from getting complacent or anymore complacent.

 

[jaguarr]

I think they just want to build up Kimbo's record, and develop his fighting skills as much as they can before they set him up against someone way too advanced.
He's a nice guy from what I can see in the interviews, hopefully he won't get slaughtered when the time comes to tussle with a pro.
It'll have to be soon, he's already sort of old.
And if they keep putting him up against *****es, losers and old guys people will lose interest.
Tank was pretty pathetic, did he even hit Kimbo?
Guy was on the floor many times, Kimbo should have wacked the ref for being annoying.

He's a tough guy, but he's just a brawler with no real discipline behind him. Those types of guys tend to get picked apart when they start fighting guys with some serious training and formal discipline of some variety, be it ground or striking. He's been beating up jobbers, burnouts and older guys. Put him in the ring with someone like Cro-Cop or Shogun and he'll get picked apart. And Tank has ALWAYS been pretty pathetic. So many people talk him up but the dude's got a 9-14 record now. He's just another brawler. Take a good look, Kimbo. Tank is you in 10 years.

Yeah, this was the first EliteXC I've watched all the way through and I agree. It wasn't as near as sharp as the UFC, Pride, or even WEC. Hell there's a local MMA Production here in KC that does a better job.

The two fight before the Silva/Rodriguez fight were good, simply because of the knockouts. Though, that is another sign of the lack of MMA talent in EliteXC. The Smith kid that won (I think it's Smith) was average at best in the UFC and on TUF, but in Elite they act as if he was the second coming.

They definitely have a ways to go, I hope they get there. Simply because it will keep the UFC from getting complacent or anymore complacent.

The kid that got pummeled for the entire first round and then came out and knocked the other guy out 7 seconds into the second round? Yeah, that was Smith. They seriously need to up their talent pool and their production values. I'd like to see them be able to compete for the same reasons as you; the UFC has too much of a stranglehold on the market and needs more competition.

What was funny to me is they were pimping Silva as the guy who could take down Fedor. I did NOT see that in his fight. He was sloppy and his inexperience showed. If Rodriguez hadn't had the physical conditioning of a bloated pig he would have torn Silva apart. He almost did as it was.

jag

 

[Badger]

What was funny to me is they were pimping Silva as the guy who could take down Fedor. I did NOT see that in his fight. He was sloppy and his inexperience showed. If Rodriguez hadn't had the physical conditioning of a bloated pig he would have torn Silva apart. He almost did as it was.

jag

Yeah, I forgot about that. Fedor would absolutely demolish that guy, only place he'd take Fedor is to dinner and he'd have to pay.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

He's a tough guy, but he's just a brawler with no real discipline behind him. Those types of guys tend to get picked apart when they start fighting guys with some serious training and formal discipline of some variety, be it ground or striking. He's been beating up jobbers, burnouts and older guys. Put him in the ring with someone like Cro-Cop or Shogun and he'll get picked apart. And Tank has ALWAYS been pretty pathetic. So many people talk him up but the dude's got a 9-14 record now. He's just another brawler. Take a good look, Kimbo. Tank is you in 10 years.

Ha! I was thinking that myself while watching it. It was like Tank was fighting a slightly younger version of himself.

And I take it I wasn't the only one who laughed loudly when one of the TV announcer said that Kimbo "silenced all his critics" with the win over Tank?


As for his supposed match with Ken...great, another big name MMA star that's past his prime. Granted Shamrock does have a decent ground game still, so he should be a legitiment threat to Kimbo. But Shamrock's still a fighter who's long past his prime.
It wouldn't shock me too much if Kimbo caught Ken with a punch and floored him.

 

[jaguarr]

Ha! I was thinking that myself while watching it. It was like Tank was fighting a slightly younger version of himself.

And I take it I wasn't the only one who laughed loudly when one of the TV announcer said that Kimbo "silenced all his critics" with the win over Tank?

No, you weren't the only one. LOL! I am not impressed with Kimbo, personally. I know he's popular and he seems like a nice guy from the interviews I've seen with him, and I sure wouldn't want him pissed off at me, but he's got a limited range and I don't see him really working to overcome that. He's not going to go very far in MMA and I wonder if his fan base will dwindle once he starts taking on real fighters and getting his clock cleaned.

As for his supposed match with Ken...great, another big name MMA star that's past his prime. Granted Shamrock does have a decent ground game still, so he should be a legitiment threat to Kimbo. But Shamrock's still a fighter who's long past his prime.
It wouldn't shock me too much if Kimbo caught Ken with a punch and floored him.

Yeah, I could see Ken getting clocked with a lucky punch, too. He's definitely past his prime. I think Ken would definitely try to get Kimbo on the ground. I've never cared for Ken much, either. Or his brother Frank. Couple of a-holes. The only time I've ever rooted for them is when they were feuding with Tito and that's only because I hate Tito more. Actually, feed Kimbo to Frank. That could be interesting.

jag