The more times i see the end fight the more i like it!

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  1. AVEITWITHJAMON

    AVEITWITHJAMON Darksider

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    Ive been watching the Hulk again lately, and previously i thought that the end fight between Hulk and David Banner was the only dissapointing part of the movie for me personally. But, the more i watch it the more i enjoy it and it is slowly becoming one of my favourite CB movie one-on-one's.

    Anyone else feel the same?
     
  2. Hades

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    I've always loved the ending....
     
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    AVEITWITHJAMON Darksider

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    I tended to think it was one of the weaker end fights in a CB movie, but, over the years i have slowly grew to love it.
     
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    I always liked how it refered to the Hulks near limitless power.
     
  5. AVEITWITHJAMON

    AVEITWITHJAMON Darksider

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    Yeah, the fact that David couldnt handle it despite being able to absorb 'enormous amounts of energy.' Brilliant, especially the line "You think you can handle it, take it......TAKE IT AAAAALLLLLLL!!!!!!!"
     
  6. Sava

    Sava Dont cry, my dear

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    the end fight was not what it could have been, i mean, all other fights in the movie are better than this. THe best line in the final fight for me was "Sleep now Bruce and forget forever, struggle no more and me all of your power!"
     
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    AVEITWITHJAMON Darksider

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    Yeah thats what i used to think, but i think my dissapointment with it stemmed from the fact that i exppected a lengthy brawl and never got it. But over the last year or so every time i have watched it i have thoroughly enjoyed it, more so the more i watch it.
     
  8. Kevin Roegele

    Kevin Roegele Do you mind if I don't?

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    It's not really a fight, more of a scuffle to confirm the point that the Hulk can't defeat him physically. The climax is their mental battle in the frozen lake.
     
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    AVEITWITHJAMON Darksider

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    I know what it is Kevin, The Hulk couldnt beat him physically unless he got so pissed off he released as much energy as he did in the lake, both Bruce and the Hulk realised this and decided to see if he could handle the Hulks power, which he clearly couldnt.
     
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    The thing about the end fight that a lot of people don't realise is that it wasn't a holywood end bout where people would trade 3 billion hits and not bruise.

    everything had a purpose

    david dragging bruce to an area where he had an elemental advantage.

    he tried to take on his son in solid form but realised that was stupid.

    hulk chucked him away and looked to go finish the job

    hulk got drowned and david took advantage

    david one

    but hulk and bruce pulled trump card

    david couldn't take it and physically changed shape to take up the energy hulk had stored in him

    he became an easy target for military and boom...

    voila




    it wasn't overdone and did what it had to withouth having to be a crazy fight superhero battle. it didn't even have any superhero/villain qualities to it, it was just a father scrapping with his son at essence and that's what great about it, it cuts all the comic bull**** and gets on with it. no cheesy drammatics like the spidey films, no bad one liners like the x-men films and no cheesy villain death.

    i mean someone gets nuked, how the hell are you supposed to feel as a viewer. there's no reason to be joyful because everything isn't alright, the world doesn't smell of roses, this is really the beginnnig of the end of bruce's life as he knows it and he's just had to kill the father he never had.

    that's what i like about the hulk, it doesn't wrap you in cotton wool or crazy long winded scenes and purely shows you exactly what needs to be there, especially in that last fight.

    plus the mental battle and re-focus of the hulk in order to gain victory is pure pure genius, it really does show people what kinda scope there is on bruce's hidden demon. truelly great scene...

    take it, TAKE IT ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL....

    :up:
     
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    AVEITWITHJAMON Darksider

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    Thats an excellent description of the battle, well done, it is becoming one of my favourite tussels in CB movies. This is because, once again, its different to all the other comic book movies out there, even the ones in production now seem to be following the same old formula.
     
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    Exactly!!!
     
  13. Aren

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    Yeah the end fight is pretty cool
     
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    I am going to watch it right now.
     
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    Dragon No Way as Way

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    That explanation makes no sense (Like the movie).

    David's purpose was to absorb Bruce's power. Why? Because he had a theory that Bruce's power would somehow stabilize his. So what exactly does that mean? That David would no longer be the absorbing man? That he'd be similar in form to the Hulk? How could he be sure that he too wouldn't be a creature with a child-like mind, and thus the powers would be of little use to him.

    Second- If indeed David's powers were unstable, how did he expect to be able to defeat the tireless Hulk? If he could defeat the Hulk, then absorbing his powers would be unnecessary.

    Why would absorbing Bruce's powers be more useful to him than say, a second jolt of the nanomeds? he certainly hadn't had a chance to examine Bruce and learn the extent of his powers, or how they might help David. Especially since as we saw, David's absorbing power is only temporary. He doesn't maintain the properties of anything he absorbed permanently.

    And maybe the fight didn't have the cheezy drama of a Spider-Man film (Or any drama at all for that matter) but it sure had Nick Nolte's cheezy whimpering and over-acting.

    The scene was poorly conceived, like the rest of the film.
     
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    Betty's line "A physical wound is finite, but emotions can cause a chain reaction" (or something like that) = the message of this scene.
     
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    if you say so, you raise points but i'm not going to start trying to defend it if you don't like it, there's not much point.

    I will say this that Banner's father's frame of mind does come into question with all this and being a man of science who has been locked up for a number of years now waiting to get his claws into something he's had an appetite for his whole life, one can assume that rationality may not be the fist thing on the cards. I mean if villains acted rationally, then all heroes would have been defeated a long long time ago.

    oh and i would assume the effect of absorbing the hulk would be similar to that of the real comic based absorbing man, ie just strength rather than any emotional ties i believe. I mean he didn't turn forever act like a rock when he absorbed their properties so one would assume the same for the hulk.

    i mean with a whole host of over acting marvel villains, david banner seems to wind you up more than the others??? :confused:

    fair enough.
     
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    AVEITWITHJAMON Darksider

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    Once again i completely disagree with you. David had seen first hand that the Hulk's power and body were stable, he just thought he could contain that power as David said himself his body could "absorb enormous amounts of energy." He obviously didnt realise that Hulk's power would be far too overwhelming for him.
     
  19. Spoarz™

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    I never really had a problem with the final battle, I thought it was cool, though I agree that the more I watch it, the more I enjoy it. :up:
     
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    AVEITWITHJAMON Darksider

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    That seems to be common for a lot of scene's in the movie, but i now consider the end fight one of Marvel's best.
     
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    I love the lightning effect as they travel through the clouds and then plummets into the river. That was cool along with Davids reflection in the river as hulk swats it.

    And the dialogue in that film was quite impressive for the most part.
     
  22. Kevin Roegele

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    I love the build-up to the fight as well, David bites the cable and suddenly all hell breaks loose. You know it's about to go down big time.
     
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    My favorite part of the fight was the end --- "Take it.... take it ALLLL!!!".... as David Banner suddenly finds out just how limitless and completely uncontrollable this power really is. The moment was just pure Hulk.

    Though I also really loved the bit where Hulk was zapped by the electricity through the clouds; some neat artistic visuals in that scene.
     
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    I think Ang Lee is a budding scifi director with much vision who made some flubs but i think he deserves another shot, perhaps now with another franchise or an original one.
     
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    And the music, THE MUSIC. Pure drama.

    Oh and I have to say that I never disliked the end, some people said that t'was an unnecessary scene, but nevertheless.... it's a unique piece of art.
     

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