The Nader Thread

[Super_Ludacris]

Its good to know Republichumps feel that confident about there OWN party that they think Nader will ONLY cost the democrats the office....

 

[hippie_hunter]

Its good to know Republichumps feel that confident about there OWN party that they think Nader will ONLY cost the democrats the office....

Nader ain't going to hurt the Republicans. He's too left for them.

Bloomberg on the other hand will hurt the Republicans if he runs.

 

[Malice]

Nader ain't going to hurt the Republicans. He's too left for them.

Bloomberg on the other hand will hurt the Republicans if he runs.

Exactly....you have the right idea about bloomberg too

 

[The Senator]

Eh, let him run. He wasn't a big challenge in 2004, so I doubt he'll have much of an impact in 2008.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Eh, let him run. He wasn't a big challenge in 2004, so I doubt he'll have much of an impact in 2008.

He wasn't that big of an impact because people who actually wanted Bush out of office knew that if they voted for Nader they would hurt Kerry. And frankly most people who voted for Kerry, voted for him simply because they wanted Bush out of office.

Bush ain't running now and the majority of people are both discontent with the Republicans and Democrats (over 70%) thanks to the Bush Administration and Congress being pretty damn useless. I think Nader will do as well as he did in 2000.

 

[Obi-Ron]

If Nader runs again I will vote for him again. I won't even have to change my avatar.

 

[hippie_hunter]

If Nader runs again I will vote for him again. I won't even have to change my avatar.

Vote Zod!

 

[The Senator]

I doubt he'll have as much clout as he did in the past. The Democrats and left-leaning independents will stick with the Democratic nominee for the same reasons they did in 2004. They don't want an extension of Bush's term, and they don't want a Republican president. Plus, in the seven years since the 2000 election, Nader's image has been tarnished further, and has become a symbol of fear among the liberal base. I just can't see him doing half as good as he did in 2000. If he was going to do damage at all, it would have been in 2004, when he was up against a far more boring, far more disenchanting Democrat.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

If Nader runs again I will vote for him again. I won't even have to change my avatar.

Of course you wont, he's a grown up version of Ralph Wiggum

 

[bell110]

Well, Cythia McKinney is Running for the Green Party Ticket. So, I guess they'll need to fight it out.

The one that shoved a Capitol Police officer? **** that *****

Will Nader be running Green or Independent this time?

 

[Immortalfire]

He wasn't on the ballot...I didn't know what to do

 

[Ash J. Williams]

He's never going to be Presisent.

Because Bruce Campbell is.

 

[CorpusBlack]

Because Bruce Campbell is.

What a wonderful country we'd live in if Bruce Campbell was president.

 

[Matt]

What a wonderful country we'd live in if Bruce Campbell was president.

Bruce Campbell doesn't have the experience. Sure, he led a small, rag tag, bunch of soldiers to victory against a larger, more formidible army (of darkness) but does THAT alone really qualifiy him to be President of the United States? Allow me to answer that with a smiley that will not only convey my skepticism but do so in a smug manner.

However, I will say, Bruce Campbell is young. He should be the runningmate on the Zod 2008 ticket! That would not only get him the experience he needs, it would give America the much needed leadership of an experienced military leader and statesman, General Zod for 8 years! Remember, in 2008, choose to:

t:

 

[CorpusBlack]

Bruce Campbell doesn't have the experience. Sure, he led a small, rag tag, bunch of soldiers to victory against a larger, more formidible army (of darkness) but does THAT alone really qualifiy him to be President of the United States? Allow me to answer that with a smiley that will not only convey my skepticism but do so in a smug manner.

However, I will say, Bruce Campbell is young. He should be the runningmate on the Zod 2008 ticket! That would not only get him the experience he needs, it would give America the much needed leadership of an experienced military leader and statesman, General Zod for 8 years! Remember, in 2008, choose to:

t:

Zod would be good until Palpatine devised a plan to overthrow him, create a new army and send us to war all in an attempt to maintain power and create his own empire. Then the Young Guns would have to defend his honor.

 

[Matt]

Zod would be good until Palpatine devised a plan to overthrow him, create a new army and send us to war all in an attempt to maintain power and create his own empire. Then the Young Guns would have to defend his honor.

But thats already happened. Only it was George W. Bush who went to war to create the Empire and maintain power instead of Palpatine...and instead of the Young Guns defending his honor it was the old guns led by Charleton Heston.

 

[comicgirl]

Nader poised for another run at the White House


Obama Not Concerned By Possible Nader Bid

Ralph Nader goes on NBC’s Meet the Press tomorrow morning, stoking speculation that the consumer advocate is gearing up for another presidential bid.

Barack Obama said today during a visit at the Ohio State University Medical Center that he wasn’t terribly concerned about the prospect of a Nader campaign. “I think the job of the Democratic Party is to be so compelling that a few percentage [points] of the vote going to another candidate is not going to make any difference.”

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/02/23/obama-not-concerned-by-possible-nader-bid/?mod=googlenews_wsj


I was ready to kill this guy during the 2000 election.

Well, there you go Mr. Ralph -I might as well work for Karl Rove - Nader. Way to hand the election to the Reps again. Vaingorious, self important, unelectable SOB

 

[Matt]

I don't buy that Comicgirl. The entire purpose of democracy is dissent. I find it puzzling how Democrats (specifically Barack Obama supporters) are adopting the same 'with us or against us' attitude that the Republicans have used for the past 8 years.

I was recently contacted by an old friend of mine who is the chairman of the local Democratic party. He was asking for a donation and I told him no as there are no local Dems running and I don't support Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton or Jason Altmire in the Congressional campaign. He went on a rant about how I am handing the White House to the Republicans and leaving our troops to die. I said "Wait a ****ing second. When did the Democrats start using these kinda scare tactics? I thought our party was better than that." I may have not realized it in the past, but this election makes it clear as day. It shows how similiar the two parties are and why candidates like Nader are needed. I probably won't vote for Nader (I am still hoping Bloomberg jumps in). I will write in Richardson if Nader doesn't enter. I will be damned if I am going to be bullied or scared into voting for some pseudo-Democrat, especially when it so goes against the fundamental principals of our entire Democracy.

 

[jaguarr]

Nader makes a very, very valid and important point when he says things like Washington is "corporate occupied territory" that turns the government against the interests of it's own people. However, his methods and tactics for raising awareness to that ultimately are horribly ineffective and I wish he'd rethink how he's getting that message across and working to change they system. This approach doesn't do much of anything and just makes people write him off as a bit of a nut.

jag

 

[The Senator]

As much as I disagree with Ralph Nader, and as annoyed as I am over his 2000 campaign, I believe he has every right to seek the Presidency if he so wishes. If Obama or Clinton have a message which will appeal to the far left, or anyone else who supports Nader, then they shouldn't have to worry about the left-most liberals jumping ship and voting for him.

The other important thing to remember about Nader is this: While he may have got 2.7% of the vote in 2000, he only received 0.3% in 2004. No one was able to say Nader took votes away from Kerry. So I'm under the impression he won't receive over 1% of the vote come November anyway.

Personally, I'm hoping Bloomberg jumps in...

 

[comicgirl]

I can just see McCain and co. high-fiving each other.

 

[Matt]

I can just see McCain and co. high-fiving each other.

I doubt it. Like Jman said, Nader got .3 % of the vote in 2004. He will probably get less this time around. Especially if Obama wins the nomination.

 

[comicgirl]

I know....its just irritating....grrr!!!!!

 

[Matt]

Why is it irritating? I thought Democracy was all about contrasting ideas? Why is it wrong when Bush shuts out the opposition from the decision making process but you want to do the same thing to a third party candidate?

 

[comicgirl]

You're misunderstanding my meaning...................I don't like it because the only thing he's been is a spoiler. Man doesn't a snowball's chance in hell of winning.

He's like a crabby old Economics Prof. that believes he alone has the "solution" and everyone else is wrong. Whatever.