The New Diamond List for August 11th, 2010

[Dread]

Yeah, after this first arc of Avengers is over, I'm done. My roommate is the one who usually buys it anyway, but I'm not going to even bother reading it when Rulk comes on.

That should be on the cover of one of the issues.

"So bad, people won't even read it for free!"

I bet such a blurb would not effect sales.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm sure its fans would just laud Bendis for his cleverness in sticking it to us whiny geeks.

 

[Themanofbat]

I'm torn about keeping on reading the Avengers... especially if Spidey leaves the book... he's my only reason for reading it at this point... Bendis has pretty much made me "bored" of the Avengers... I like most of his gritty noir stuff, but the Bevengers have been "dull" even at it's best...

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I can't even complain that he's not trying this time. Clearly, he is. He's making all the right moves, staying away from ninjas and street-level bulls***, bringing classic villains back into it, etc., but he just can't really seem to make a classic-style Avengers comic work for whatever reason. People stand around gabbing way too much, the team still feels very disharmonious and cranky with each other all the time (especially Iron Man, who acts like he's condescending to a bunch of children more often than not to me the way Bendis writes him), and the story just kind of plods along from issue to issue without much development.

 

[Dread]

Least we have SECRET AVENGERS, AVENGERS ACADEMY, and the soon-to-be FRED VAN LENTE AVENGERS as alternatives.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, but none of those have Thor in 'em, which I was kind of looking forward to in this new era of Avengers. But I guess if Van Lente's is indeed a Cosmic Avengers and Beta Ray Bill is on the team, I could be cool with that.

 

[Drz]

Dont forget Ultimate Avengers 3 starts in April 11th. Ultimate Captain America & Blade fighting vampires?!?!?! Count me in!

 

[Dread]

Yeah, but none of those have Thor in 'em, which I was kind of looking forward to in this new era of Avengers. But I guess if Van Lente's is indeed a Cosmic Avengers and Beta Ray Bill is on the team, I could be cool with that.

That is assuming that FVL's Avengers is indeed the Cosmic Avengers. I'd put the odds at 50/50, but one really doesn't know. It could be International Avengers or who knows. It could be AVENGERS TEAM UP for all we know.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

That would be cool too. Random Avenger team-ups are fun and give some of the lower-tier characters a chance to shine. Of course, I doubt anyone'd buy it in today's market...

 

[Dread]

I would. But I know what you mean. At any rate I'll enjoy it.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm still hoping for some melding of the God Squad and Nova's band of cosmic powerhouses. Center a Cosmic Avengers team around Herc and Cho and I would totally be there.

 

[Dread]

That wouldn't be too bad. Maybe station someone from MI-13 there or try to have some "international" members because, ideally, any space threat is peril for the ENTIRE world, not just North America (or New York). I would have found it cool if during some of those brief periods on earth, Richard didn't try to recruit at least one or two of those hanger on New Warriors for the Corps. I mean, is Timeslip doing anything else?

There could be some overlap between the God Squad and the Cosmic Avengers. Beta Ray Bill is usually the stand-in Thor for many things, especially space. I think Sersi was an Avenger during at least some Kree/Shi'ar War stuff, so it isn't like it would be something she'd never done. The Mikaboshi/Chaos King thing has effected the Shi'ar gods as well as others, so there's definitely room to merge the two. Which may not be a bad strategy. Try to hope that the 19k-25k people who buy the space books are a tad different than the 20k-25k who buy INCREDIBLE HERCULES and try to hook in more Avengers people. I've seen books launched with worse strategies for building an audience.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Rich doesn't even want a Nova Corps, though, remember? The people who stayed on did so because they basically had nowhere else to go and were totally devoted to the Corps, not just random draftees.

And Sersi was an Avenger for a long time in the '80s and '90s. She was integral to the whole Gatherers plot during Harras and Epting's era.

 

[Dread]

True. But I'd imagine that when he was recruiting, super heroes would seem optimal to regular folks. Of course, we haven't seem much of Philo, Tre, Lindy, and the rest for a while.

I believe Sersi was an Avenger for the whole OPERATION GALACTIC STORM thing. And of course was central to that Gatherers plot with Proctor, the pettiest villain ever besides Dr. Doom. That was basically Black Knight's opus if one was a fan during that period. Usually everyone was screaming about where the "bigger guns" were. The purple Shi'ar Deathcry ("D.C.") was an Avenger around then and one of few Shi'ar characters who the X-office didn't feel they own. She got splattered during Giffen's STAR-LORD mini. I think she and Hercules had relations. If so, imagine THAT kid. Half Shi'ar, half god. Has someone told Van Lente about it?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Superheroes are special and Nova Centurions are supposed to be average, remember? Weirdest recruiting tactic ever, but there it is.

Also, as much as I love Dane, the Vision's storyline during that period was easily the best part of the series at the time. Because of that one conversation Vizh and Deathcry had about their alien natures or some such, I've never been able to hate Deathcry as much as everyone else who's ever heard of her seems to.

 

[Dread]

Superheroes are special and Nova Centurions are supposed to be average, remember? Weirdest recruiting tactic ever, but there it is.

Also, as much as I love Dane, the Vision's storyline during that period was easily the best part of the series at the time. Because of that one conversation Vizh and Deathcry had about their alien natures or some such, I've never been able to hate Deathcry as much as everyone else who's ever heard of her seems to.

Pfft, they've recruited some above average Centurions before. Robert Rider's a genius. And no one tells a story like Qubit.

Sadly, Capt. Universe splattered Deathcry off in STAR-LORD.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I was fine with that, actually. Giffen gave her a completely weird, b****y characterization anyway, so it was practically like a different character.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I liked Deathcry but was fine with her death. She really did come accross a bit more harsh than I remember her being in the Avengers.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

She was just a mixed up kid in Avengers. Aggressive, certainly, but not a mindless feline Hulk, which is how she came off in Star-Lord. For all of the great stories Giffen's done, he's certainly not above just changing a character's entire personality on a whim.

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

DMZ #56 (MR) $2.99
ZATANNA #4 $2.99
DAREDEVIL #509 SL $2.99
INVINCIBLE IRON MAN #29 $2.99
STEVE ROGERS SUPER-SOLDIER #2 (OF 4) $3.99
ULTIMATE COMICS AVENGERS 3 #1 (OF 6) $3.99 - maybe, i think it kind of sucks
ULTIMATE COMICS SPIDER-MAN #13 $3.99

 

[Psykoelf]

dc comics

gears of war #13 (mr)

idw publishing

transformers ongoing #10

image comics

witchblade #137

marvel comics

dark wolverine #89
ultimate comics avengers 3 #1 (of 6)
ultimate comics spider-man #13
x-force sex and violence #2 (of 3)
x-men #2 $3.99
x-men #2 medina var (pp #929)

comics

robert jordan wheel of time eye o/t world #4

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Gears of war #13 (mr) $3.99
superman #702 $2.99
titans #26 (brightest day) $2.99

incredible hulk #611 $3.99
invincible iron man #29 $2.99
thanos imperative #3 (of 6) $3.99