The Next Generation Console Thread

[Devil May Cry]

The 360 had its year and...evidently, they blew it in terms of establishing a crushing lead. I'm still shocked that they couldn't sell more worldwide. It makes absolutely no sense.




And something tells me most ppl won't give a damn about the DLC on GTA4. They'll just buy according to which system they already have.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

The 360 had its year and...evidently, they blew it in terms of establishing a crushing lead. I'm still shocked that they couldn't sell more worldwide. It makes absolutely no sense.

It makes a lot of sense.
How do you sell something that was almost no fanbase in Europe?
IMO, Microsoft is making one hell of a job with the 360.
Sure, they could have used more publicity in Europe by now (like i stated above), but even without it, they are winning against the PS3 in some European countries.
The PS3 will outsell them eventually, the PS brand is very powerful, more even than the console itself.
But so far they are kicking Sony´s ass in the US and UK, and they are winning in France too (by a extremly slight margin).

And something tells me most ppl won't give a damn about the DLC on GTA4. They'll just buy according to which system they already have.

Of course they won´t.
The majority of people will not buy a console (360 in this case) to play a game that is coming out on their choosen console (PS3), with or without DLC.
The one thing i find stupid is the ones that have both consoles and say are going to get in on the PS3, *because if doesn´t feel right to play GTA without the PS hardware*.
And there are a lot of those in the gametrailers forum.
Common sense states that you buy the best version of a game, and because of DLC, the best version is on the 360.

 

[Devil May Cry]

I thought the lead they had in America was enough to at least outsell the PS3 this year. All those miscellaneous territories add up I guess. I also thought they were selling more in the UK AND after the speech Robbie gave at CES, I thought they were doing better in Europe overall. So, yes, I am shocked.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

I thought the lead they had in America was enough to at least outsell the PS3 this year.

But, they are outselling the PS3.
Worlwide:
X360: 16.71 Millions
PS3: 9.62 Millions
US
X360: 10.72 Millions
PS3: 3.75 Millions

All those miscellaneous territories add up I guess. I also thought they were selling more in the UK

But they are selling way more than the PS3 in the UK
UK
X360: 1.946.991
PS3: 820.349

AND after the speech Robbie gave at CES, I thought they were doing better in Europe overall. So, yes, I am shocked.

But they are are outselling the PS3 in Europe
Europe
X360: 4.300.636
PS3: 3.523.506

Yeah, it´s a very slim margin, but, like i said, the Xbox had no fanbase in Europe, so, they are doing great imo.
The PS3 will eventually outsell the 360 if MS doesn´t do anything to avoid it (publicity), the PS name is very big in Europe.
The shock is not the 360 is not selling more, but the PS3 not selling more, which shows they are losing Europe too, the majority of people is still undecided between the two consoles.

 

[Devil May Cry]

But, they are outselling the PS3.
Worlwide:
X360: 16.71 Millions
PS3: 9.62 Millions
US
X360: 10.72 Millions
PS3: 3.75 Millions

But they are selling way more than the PS3 in the UK
UK
X360: 1.946.991
PS3: 820.349

But they are are outselling the PS3 in Europe
Europe
X360: 4.300.636
PS3: 3.523.506

Yeah, it´s a very slim margin, but, like i said, the Xbox had no fanbase in Europe, so, they are doing great imo.
The PS3 will eventually outsell the 360 if MS doesn´t do anything to avoid it (publicity), the PS name is very big in Europe.
The shock is not the 360 is not selling more, but the PS3 not selling more, which shows they are losing Europe too, the majority of people is still undecided between the two consoles.

This year. I thought they outsold the PS3 this year. This conversation i sbecoming pointless as I am agreeing with you but merely expressing my shock for something that you apparently don't find hard to believe.



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[Havok83]

And arguably, the PS3 has a much bigger lineup for 2008. Of course that will also play a factor

 

[hippie_hunter]

But, they are outselling the PS3.
Worlwide:
X360: 16.71 Millions
PS3: 9.62 Millions
US
X360: 10.72 Millions
PS3: 3.75 Millions

But they are selling way more than the PS3 in the UK
UK
X360: 1.946.991
PS3: 820.349

But they are are outselling the PS3 in Europe
Europe
X360: 4.300.636
PS3: 3.523.506

Yeah, it´s a very slim margin, but, like i said, the Xbox had no fanbase in Europe, so, they are doing great imo.
The PS3 will eventually outsell the 360 if MS doesn´t do anything to avoid it (publicity), the PS name is very big in Europe.
The shock is not the 360 is not selling more, but the PS3 not selling more, which shows they are losing Europe too, the majority of people is still undecided between the two consoles.

Just because the Xbox 360 has more units sold in Europe doesn't mean that it's outselling it. The Playstation 3 has been outselling the Xbox 360 in the European market for a while now and is poised to overtake it this year.

And it's pretty obvious that the Playstation 3 kicked the Xbox 360's ass in the Japanese market.

For some reason it seems like Microsoft is kinda giving up on the foreign markets with the Xbox brand and seem to be concentrating the most on the North American market, where it is dominating over the Playstation 3.

 

[Avangarde]

And arguably, the PS3 has a much bigger lineup for 2008. Of course that will also play a factor

They would have to, if they don't do something special in 2008 then the PS3 will fail, period.

 

[GFreeman]

Just because the Xbox 360 has more units sold in Europe doesn't mean that it's outselling it. The Playstation 3 has been outselling the Xbox 360 in the European market for a while now and is poised to overtake it this year.

And it's pretty obvious that the Playstation 3 kicked the Xbox 360's ass in the Japanese market.

For some reason it seems like Microsoft is kinda giving up on the foreign markets with the Xbox brand and seem to be concentrating the most on the North American market, where it is dominating over the Playstation 3.

How do you make that work?

 

[hippie_hunter]

How do you make that work?

The Playstation 3 tends to outsell the Xbox 360 by about 20,000 units a week in Europe. However since the Xbox 360 had a years head start the Xbox 360 has still sold more units in Europe as Isildur pointed out

 

[GFreeman]

Ok, I misread you. I thought you were saying something along the lines of "just because you're selling two times as much, doesn't mean you're selling more!". This being what it is, it seemed like an argument that someone would make

 

[Sugarculted]

Nintendo DS: 8.7 million
Wii: 4.8 million
Playstation 2: 3.8 million
Playstation Portable: 3.1 million
Playstation 3: 2.8 million
Xbox 360: 1.9 million

And they predict Europe's sales for 2008:
Nintendo DS: 7 million
Wii: 7 million
Playstation 3: 5.5 million
Playstation Portable: 3 million
Xbox 360: 2 million
Playstation 2: 1.95 million

Now, I know that the DS has fetched up a mighty number, because it's a neat little hand-held console, but I'm rather confused. Where are all those people with them? It might have sold many, but I hardly see anyone with one. Since release, I've probably only seen two people with one...
...where are they hiding them?!

 

[DoomRulz]

With any luck I'll be getting a PS3 before summer comes around...MAN I wanna play Turok!

 

[Havok83]

With any luck I'll be getting a PS3 before summer comes around...MAN I wanna play Turok!

I really hope thats not your reason for wanting the system, bc if so be prepared to be disappointed

 

[DoomRulz]

Not the only reason. I read the review on IGN, 7.3/10. I know, it's not spectacular but as long as it's fun I'll be content. Besides, I've been aching for a good dinosaur game for a while; a good one hasn't come out since Dino Crisis 2.

 

[Devil May Cry]

I really hope thats not your reason for wanting the system, bc if so be prepared to be disappointed

Co-sign.


If you want Turok, get that on 360. It's way better looking.

 

[DoomRulz]

I don't want a 360.

 

[Sugarculted]

Not the only reason. I read the review on IGN, 7.3/10. I know, it's not spectacular but as long as it's fun I'll be content. Besides, I've been aching for a good dinosaur game for a while; a good one hasn't come out since Dino Crisis 2.

7.3? Oy. I was hoping for it to be a masterpiece...haven't read any reviews. Is that pretty much the whole opinion on the game thus far, that it's only above average?

 

[DoomRulz]

GameSpy gave it 2.5/5 stars <_< Both reviews agree on one thing: the game is lots of fun and is good for FPS fans, but the problems in unbalanced difficulty combined with sheer vagueness of objectives leave people supremely frustrated.

 

[Sugarculted]

GameSpy gave it 2.5/5 stars <_< Both reviews agree on one thing: the game is lots of fun and is good for FPS fans, but the problems in unbalanced difficulty combined with sheer vagueness of objectives leave people supremely frustrated.

Yeeesh, that's unfortunate. Oh well, COD4 will just be taking up more of my time

 

[DoomRulz]

Read the review though.

 

[Sugarculted]

Read the review though.

I will do At least it's definitely worth a couple of rentals.

 

[Havok83]

Yeeesh, that's unfortunate. Oh well, COD4 will just be taking up more of my time

Cod4 is the BEST FPS on any system, I dont see any of the curretn FPS taking me away from it

 

[블라스]

Cod4 is the BEST FPS on any system, I dont see any of the curretn FPS taking me away from it

Super agreed 150%

 

[DACMAN]

Cod4 is the BEST FPS on any system, I dont see any of the curretn FPS taking me away from it

COD4 is the most overrated game since Final Fantasy. Bioshock, Halo 3, and Rainbow Six are all far and beyond better than COD4. And since Rainbow Six Vegas, any realistic shooting game that doesn't have a cover system is out dated.