Homecoming The Next Spider-Man - - - - - - - - Part 17

[harryoscop]

Lmao!

It's not me being right (even though I am), it's about what Marvel wants. Because I know what they want, trust me. I have sources.

Hmm.. do you also have all five of the Trades to back your claim?

 

[Spider-Ranger]

I'm tired of all those discussions about what MARVEL wants and what they don't want. It's really annoying. Because no one in here really knows what MARVEL is up to. It's all speculation. Power to anyone who likes discussions and stuff, because that's what a forum is for, right? But please stop repeating yourself over and over again.

This place is full of posts by certain users that I won't name, who are basically copy-pasting their opinion on every page. I know the wait is exhausting, and we're all desperate to know who will get cast, but please choose an other topic if the current discussion is heating up.

Thank you.

 

[Mike Murdock]

The biggest reason people use to support the HS idea is just because its different, but I don't think its necessarly in a good way.

I think you're understating the value of different, though. Every Marvel movie has been marketed as a different take on the superhero genre. Captain America: The First Avenger was a historical war movie, Captain America: Civil War was a political thriller, Guardians of the Galaxy was a Star Wars-y space movie, and Ant-Man is supposed to be a heist film. It seems that Spider-Man can be thought of as a coming of age film. For those who aren't a fan of that, it'll still have superhero moments and cool action scenes, but it should try to be something different. That's been part of Marvel's success. It follows a formula, but also moves that formula around a bit.

Like I've mentioned several times, HS stories most of the time feel shallow and inconsequential, not only that but is much harder to relate to that. TASM was set in HS and yet it was hardly even adressed at all, it was pointless! Going in the opposite direction of that is better but still not ideal, if they're really gonna use the Highschool environment its gonna be hard to buy that a teen can go to school, fight crime and do homework everyday, how would he even get permission to be out all the time? There is not much room for creativity in this case.

The first 30 issues of The Amazing Spider-Man and the two seasons of the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon revolve around this concept. I think if they can figure it out, so can a movie. More importantly, I disagree about constraints limiting creativity. Quite often, constraints inspire creativity because you have to think around those constraints. Rather than make a generic superhero movie where there's Spider-Man and a bad guy and they fight, the trick is to weave the High School elements around the superhero stuff so it all works together.

 

[JOE]

Hmm.. do you also have all five of the Trades to back your claim?

It's irrelevant, I'm commenting on arrogance.

 

[Webhead2006]

Man I do really hope we get get the reveal this week. I want this to finally end. And hopefully we get back to a more calmer board once it happens. I just like to get some more official news. Then can't wait to see said pick in action on set and set pics coming in for spidey for civil wsr. Not to much longer we have to wait. All counting of course when in june actor be there. And for how long he will be there. And if the actor is shooting any where else once civil war shoot moves from atlanta.

The deal with me. Even if marvel and sony really want to do hs. We honestly can't see them stretch it for that long. It just wouldn't work.

Now sure if this was spidey on his own and not in mcu. I could see the stretching out hs 3 films out every 2 yrs for next 6 to 8 yrs. You can fudge with time line of events there.

You can't do that with the mcu. It is set within a pretty close on the nose with real time. As civil war will be in mcu 2016 in rl 2016.

So again if pete is 15 or 16 in mcu and rl 2016 and he is stated as a freshmen in 2016. That already puts a stamp on when pete needs to finish hs. Which would be 2020.

So if we get 3 solo films out every 2 yrs. Average timeline with how most films are. That would put possible 3 solo releases at 17/19/21. And with that we likely only see two yrs of hs covered in solo 1 and solo 2. And civil war and infinity films we likely not going to see pete in school probably talk about it and some other nods of his school problems.

But again no way with how mcu time goes. That we would have Pete in hs still post phase 3 ending in 2019. And I doubt he would. So I still expect we will only see two solo in hs. 3rd solo starting collage. And the other phase 3 films he in throw a few nods to his school stuff.

No way they would try and stretch this pete is 15 or 16 and only going to stay that age for how ever long said actor get signed too.

For me it likely will go like this. Phase 3 we will see pete from 15 to 19 yrs old. Phase 4 Pete from 20 to 25 yrs old. And then once we get to phase 5 it would be the 25 to 30 yrs old range. Which is the ambiguous comics age pete is. And then at this point. Age likely won't be talked about any more. And character be locked into late 20s early 30s look. And that is what they look for for when this guy leaves and his replacement comes in.

Also I agree going 18 to 20 over 20 to 24 isn't to much of a difference. It's all in my book is how young does x guy look vs look marvel sony wants. And again either guy is likely going to sign a 9 picture deal at first. 3 solo 3 team films. And then additional 3 for new solo or other appearances. And who ever gets role will likely play the role for ten to 12 yrs at the most.

So if it was tom or asa they likely will play the role to they are 30. And if it was someone like dylan for example would play the role to they are about 34. Which is current age of evans as cap. And again by the time actor is around or about 30. Age wise of pete and spidey be the same. So again I never had a problem if they went 20 to 24 range.

Any one from 18 to 24. Would still been yrs younger then andrew and Tobey where before they started. And by the time they would be as old as Tobey and andrew started they would already have 3 to 4 appearances as role already shot.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It doesn't matter if you don't see the difference Sony and Marvel aren't going to cast a 24 year old, they aren't going to make the same mistake three times.

 

[JOE]

It doesn't matter if you don't see the difference Sony and Marvel aren't going to cast a 24 year old, they aren't going to make the same mistake three times.

I wouldn't call casting Tobey Maguire or Andrew Garfield mistakes at all. Especially in their origin movies, they were both fantastic.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I love Tobey as Peter Parker/Spider-Man, I'm strictly talking about the age thing. If you want to keep the character in highschool longer casting that old is a mistake. Since they weren't even trying to do a highschool thing with the Raimi series I should just exclude it and say that they won't make the same mistake twice.

 

[Webhead2006]

Ya I was just pointing iut age doesn't really matter. If x guy looks younger and can keep youthful looks for at least all of phase 3 going into phase 4. Once character is 20 to 23 who cares if the actor is 27 to 29.

 

[JOE]

I love Tobey as Peter Parker/Spider-Man, I'm strictly talking about the age thing. If you want to keep the character in highschool longer casting that old is a mistake. Since they weren't even trying to do a highschool thing with the Raimi series I should just exclude it and say that they won't make the same mistake twice.

23-24 isn't too old, but that's just my opinion, especially if the actor doesn't look his age.

 

[Webhead2006]

Ya we all talked about this in past. We know younger folks who look older then they are. And older folks who look younger. It's all about if they have a look marvel and sony want and can keep young look for at least the next 4 yrs. It's no different then countless films and tv shows cast older for yoynger. Be it only a few yrs like 3 to 4. Or someone 5 to 7 yrs older then character.

It's like why kid roles where character is say 6 to 8 yrs old. Is played by 10 yr olders. A 12 to 14 yr old character played by 16 to 18 yr olds. Or the standard teen shows and movies characters who are 15 to 18 yrs old in shows. Are almost alway played by 18 to 25 yrs old. It's all about looks and how x supporting cast me members look in relation.

 

[ernesth100]

Agreed, O'Brien looks like he could play 16-17 to me.

 

[Web-Head]

Tom Holland's gonna kill it as Peter and Spidey

 

[Mysteryman]

It doesn't matter if you don't see the difference Sony and Marvel aren't going to cast a 24 year old, they aren't going to make the same mistake three times.

Exactly.
Casting someone in their mid twenties gives Marvel less options.
Longevity is the way to go .

 

[Mysteryman]

Tom Holland's gonna kill it as Peter and Spidey

If he gets the role .

 

[JOE]

Agreed, O'Brien looks like he could play 16-17 to me.

 

[Mysteryman]

Agreed, O'Brien looks like he could play 16-17 to me.

Everybody's different.
O'Brien looks 25 to me .

 

[harryoscop]

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[JOE]

This.

And O'Brien could only pass for a 17-19 year-old

 

[harryoscop]

Tom Holland's gonna kill it as Peter and Spidey

This.

And O'Brien could only pass as a 17-19 year-old

 

[harryoscop]

Dylan O'Brien for Elektra!

No, but seriously, he would have been a great choice for collage Spidey.

 

[JOE]

@harryoscop

This is why they shouldn't cast a teenager.

 

[ernesth100]

I want Dylan....so bad.

 

[harryoscop]

@harryoscop

This is why they shouldn't cast a teenager.

.....I.won't give in, Joe. I'm sold on Tom.

Marvel want a teen and there's nothing we can do about no matter how good of a choice Dylan could've been.

 

[harryoscop]

I want Dylan....so bad.

I really feel for you, man..