Homecoming The Next Spider-Man - - - - - - - - - Part 18

[Webhead2006]

Ya Scott is Clint kid.

 

[Airwings]

Nope.

Who's your sources?

If Lerman's still in, then Isaac could be the surprise choice neither studio wanted to reveal.
The shortlist was only a decoy. Isaac (or Riggs) was what they planned all along.

SHAKETHEFOUNDATIONS

 

[Airwings]

Yeah.

Isn't he the son of that old Clint Eastman guy? Sounds like a bum.

Eastwood

Stop acting like you've never heard the name

 

[Spider-Gnome]

No. I don't know who I want. I just don't want one of them.

All I know is this reboot so far is not going in a direction I would like. I wish this deal was made back in 2010, but again moot.

In an ideal fantasy alternate reality, when Raimi walked away from Spider-Man 4, Marvel approached Sony and Sony liked what Marvel had started.

Marvel and Sony came to the deal we have now, with Feige steering the ship. Marvel wants Pete back in high school and looks for actors who can pass for 15/16. They cast a young up-and-comer named Dylan O'Brien, age 19. They hire a director that can handle super hero films and coming of age comedies and get Joss Whedon to do a pass on the dialogue. With Marvel's guidance, Amazing Spider-Man and Amazing Spider-Man 2 are in the MCU and are hits. Spidey appears in a cameo of Daredevil and makes an appearance in Age of Ultron. Bryan Cranston is cast as Norman Osborn and his influence in the MCU grows through the films.

Spidey is in the middle of a conflict between Tony & Steve in Civil War, since he knows both men and they know Pete. And after the events of Infinity War, Pete gains the symbiote and has the black costume for Amazing Spider-Man 4. Also, Norman Osborn becomes the big bad in Phase 4, when they adapt Dark Reign.

 

[Airwings]

Spider-Gnome: In that alternate world, Lerman was more likely to have gotten the role than Dylan

But if we should go all in with dreams, leave reality behind and have

James Cameron's Spider-Man (1998)
Leonardo DiCaprio as PP
Lukas Haas as Harry
Timothy Dalton as Norman

 

[Hellion]

Do I see our next Spidey?

Nope just fanboys bickering....

 

[Dark Raven]

Do I see our next Spidey?

Nope just fanboys bickering....

Look! It's Mysterio's head!

 

[Hellion]

 

[Spider-Gnome]

Spider-Gnome: In that alternate world, Lerman was more likely to have gotten the role than Dylan

Nope! In my fantasy realm, Feige is looking for a funny motor mouth, so Dylan won the audition!

But if we should go all in with dreams, leave reality behind and have

James Cameron's Spider-Man (1998)
Leonardo DiCaprio as PP
Lukas Haas as Harry
Timothy Dalton as Norman

From what I heard of Cameron's script, I'm glad that never came to pass!

 

[Mysteryman]

Nope.

Yep.

 

[ernesth100]

Yep.

Not officially.

 

[Mysteryman]

Not officially.

Officially, they are in line with a bunch of others behind Asa and Tom.

 

[harryoscop]

Not officially.

If you know anything about Variety & Deadline, then yeah, OFFICIAL. the studios use Variety, Deadline, Collider and The Wrap to drop tidbits of info and to let everyone know what they're up to.

 

[ernesth100]

But has it been confirmed by Marvel or Sony? Nope. And until then you can say whatever you want but it won't be official.

 

[BatsDC]

Deadline + Variety have never mentioned the shortlist

 

[harryoscop]

Deadline + Variety have never mentioned the shortlist

A poster already explained to you why, do you want me to explain it to you again?

 

[Webhead2006]

Ya James script had far to many changes to my liking. But I am curious to see where things would have been if his spidey had happen. Same with the curiosity of nick cage superman.

 

[BatsDC]

A poster already explained to you why, do you want me to explain it to you again?

Don't recall that ever happening

Feel free

 

[Avenging Angel]

Do I see our next Spidey?

Nope just fanboys bickering....

 

[harryoscop]

Don't recall that ever happening

Feel free

Really?

I don't think you understand the reason why the actors short list wasn't published by any of the other Hollywood trades.

Let me try to explain. TheWrap came up with the actors short list, Jeff Sneider broke that story. After that, Deadline broke the directors short list, Mike Fleming from Deadline broke that story. After that, Dominic Patten from Deadline confirmed ElMayimbe's story over Asa Butterfield been in negotiations for the Spider-Man role.

I'm not sure if you are seeing a pattern here, but if you actually took your time to search each one of the news I've mentioned above, the "big three websites" that you mentioned DO NOT post their competitors 'exclusives', meaning that TheWrap's actors short list wasn't reposted by the other three trades, and neither Deadline stories were reposted by the other three trades.

What I'm trying to tell you is that "the fact that none of the big three posted the shorlist" is meaningles. But do you want to understand how much real the short list is:

Twitter trade Hollywood reporters react to Latino Review saying that Asa Butterfield is in talks to play Spider-Man:

Borys Kit from The Hollywood Reporter:

Justin Kroll from Variety:

Devin Faraci (Birth.Movies.Death), Justin Kroll (Variety) and Jeff Sneider (TheWrap) explaining how the casting process usually happens when Marvel is involved:

Jeff Sneider from TheWrap:

I was almost forgetting, Steven Weintraub (colliderfrosty) was the one breaking the news that Asa Butterfield and Tom Holland were the main contenders for the role.

So here we have:

• Borys Kit from The Hollywood Reporter;
• Justin Kroll from Variety;
• Devin Faraci from Birth.Movies.Death;
• Jeff Sneider from TheWrap;
• Dominic Patten from Deadline;
• Mike Fleming Jr from Deadline;
• Umberto Gonzales from HeroicHollywood;
• Steven Weintraub from Collider.

These writers are among the most well informed Hollywood reporters out there when it comes to breaking casting news. Most of them are from the four big trades (The Hollywood Reporter, TheWrap, Variety and Deadline) and even those that aren't are VERY well informed and respected for breaking news like that at a daily basis. All of them think that Asa Butterfield and Tom Holland are the main contenders for the role.

So yes, if you are still holding on to the old and very thin argument that "the trades didn't report the actors short list", here you have a list of the best reporters from these trades discussing about the casting and talking about actors from said short list. Make out of that what you will.

There you have it. that post does a better job explaining than I ever could.

The shortlist is legit, case closed.

 

[BatsDC]

Really?

Yeah, really. Cut the attitude. Nobody has ever exposed me to that wall of Twitter posts before

There you have it. that post does a better job explaining than I ever could.

The shortlist is legit, case closed.

That didn't actually explain what I said, but ok

 

[zizzy]

There you have it. that post does a better job explaining than I ever could.

The shortlist is legit, case closed.

I think that's more like 2/5ths of that short list is legit. The rest reamins open for wild speculation.

 

[Webhead2006]

It will be fun to see once this is all over. If other actors make mentioned that they tested or what not. To get more gages on other folks marvel and sony looked at.

 

[harryoscop]

I think that's more like 2/5ths of that short list is legit. The rest reamins open for wild speculation.

Eh, not really. The Wrap is a Tradesite just like Variety and Deadline, what they say matters too. Sneider wouldn't have published that article if It was him merely speculating, hahah.

 

[Webhead2006]

Ya but Jeff did do alot of bad speculating and trolling on spidey fans for awhile. If you do recall.