The Official '52' Thread

[WompuM]

There are 51 Earths that are exactly similar to New Earth in... what was that quote..... EVERY WAY. Now, how about you take out your handy issye of week 52 and look at the scene where Rip, Booster, an Nova are Earth jumping. Why it looks like there's a Green Lantern, from the GLC no less, on EARTH TWO. These Earths are exact replicas of New Earth in every single way. Including their cosmos. Part of that cosmos is Oa. It wasn't until Mr. Mind started eating out the megaverse that the changes came.Since he was altering the universes at the beginning of 52, that means the tangent GL you read about in ION was a result of mr. mind's modifications. So according to the story... there IS the definite possibility of a Guy Gardner green lantern on 8. There is a Sinestro on 7. There is a Superman on 5. God I love when you are so wrong.

But like I said, it's only a cover. All I said was that I thought it would be an interesting conept that Monarch is the Earth 3 version of Capt. Atom.

 

[Varient]

Don't u just Luv Comic fandom superhero Squabbles?

On topic:
52 of 52 was rushed.

I'm sorry but 52 would've ended better at 55 or so.

Also,...

Is DC now going to have a comic to showcase the other 51 universes?

Is Conner Kent going to come from one of them?

Is BatWoman really going to get back up after having a knife in her heart?

Interested non Squabbling Fan-persons want to know.

 

[WompuM]

Do you think Countdown deals with each Earth? That teaser pick with Red Robin, and the statue pf Liberty looks like it deals with tangent heroes/

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

All that matters to me is I don't get stories anymore where we have two Supermen running around and two Batman's running around. I just want them to stick with one earth and thats it.

 

[Kebab gud]

Is BatWoman really going to get back up after having a knife in her heart?
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you read what the doctor said...
and if she had plans to rush back to work she whould have shown up in the other comics by now....
we will probebly see her soon in Coutdown or in a batman comic

 

[Cobblepot]

I'm confused...

 

[Kebab gud]

I'm confused...

about what? everything.. like me? (thou is doo understand it all.. i just dont get why they want the multiverse back)

 

[BrianWilly]

There are 51 Earths that are exactly similar to New Earth in... what was that quote..... EVERY WAY. Now, how about you take out your handy issye of week 52 and look at the scene where Rip, Booster, an Nova are Earth jumping. Why it looks like there's a Green Lantern, from the GLC no less, on EARTH TWO. These Earths are exact replicas of New Earth in every single way. Including their cosmos. Part of that cosmos is Oa. It wasn't until Mr. Mind started eating out the megaverse that the changes came.Since he was altering the universes at the beginning of 52, that means the tangent GL you read about in ION was a result of mr. mind's modifications. So according to the story... there IS the definite possibility of a Guy Gardner green lantern on 8. There is a Sinestro on 7. There is a Superman on 5. God I love when you are so wrong.

Oh my goodness. Are you even aware that Alan Scott had nothing whatsoever to do with the Corps? And that the green woman standing there is his daughter, Jade, who also had nothing to do with the Corps? BECAUSE THE CORPS DID NOT EXIST ON EARTH-2 OR ANY OTHER EARTH OTHER THAN EARTH-1? You keep acting like I'm pulling all this sht out of thin air just to spite you or something. This is canon!

"Well maybe the history of all these Earths have changed so that Oa is in some of them," you say. Okay, but then how in the world do you know that this Robin actually belongs on Earth-2? If everything about the rules now is "anything goes," then how do you know that any of the Earths that we knew before are anything like they were as we knew them? You're accusing me of looking at this new multiverse from its older standards, but the only way you're little theory can work -- Robin belongs on 2 while Question belongs on 4 -- is if it abides by the old rules of the DC multiverse!

I'm sticking with canon as I know it -- there is no Flash in Earth-4, no Superman in Earth-5, and only one GL Corps -- until I'm told otherwise by the comics or the writers. If that happens, I'll eat my words. Until that happens, however, you're assuming against available evidence, not in support of it.

But like I said, it's only a cover. All I said was that I thought it would be an interesting conept that Monarch is the Earth 3 version of Capt. Atom.

And all I said is that you're probably wrong, considering the numerous discrepancies in your theory just from that cover. There are more people sitting in the wrong Earths than there are people sitting in the right Earths. You saying "WELL MAYBE IT'S DIFFERENT NOW" over and over again doesn't make it any more true. For all that you know, whoever drew the cover could have simply placed Robin-2 and Question in their respective numbers as a wink to the readers and then used random numbers for the rest of the characters.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

IMO I think bring back the multi earths will back fire on DC. I think they should have just stuck with one earth; that way everything would have been less confusing. I am just hoping all these things will be dealt with and we don't see them visiting other Earths. I just want them to stick with New Earth stories and All-Star Stories. Every other Earth can go to hell. If they want to do stories like that bring back Elseworld don't mess with anything else.

 

[sethcohen]

Oh my goodness. Are you even aware that Alan Scott had nothing whatsoever to do with the Corps? And that the green woman standing there is his daughter, Jade, who also had nothing to do with the Corps? BECAUSE THE CORPS DID NOT EXIST ON EARTH-2 OR ANY OTHER EARTH OTHER THAN EARTH-1? You keep acting like I'm pulling all this sht out of thin air just to spite you or something. This is canon!

"Well maybe the history of all these Earths have changed so that Oa is in some of them," you say. Okay, but then how in the world do you know that this Robin actually belongs on Earth-2? If everything about the rules now is "anything goes," then how do you know that any of the Earths that we knew before are anything like they were as we knew them? You're accusing me of looking at this new multiverse from its older standards, but the only way you're little theory can work -- Robin belongs on 2 while Question belongs on 4 -- is if it abides by the old rules of the DC multiverse!

I'm sticking with canon as I know it -- there is no Flash in Earth-4, no Superman in Earth-5, and only one GL Corps -- until I'm told otherwise by the comics or the writers. If that happens, I'll eat my words. Until that happens, however, you're assuming against available evidence, not in support of it.

And all I said is that you're probably wrong, considering the numerous discrepancies in your theory just from that cover. There are more people sitting in the wrong Earths than there are people sitting in the right Earths. You saying "WELL MAYBE IT'S DIFFERENT NOW" over and over again doesn't make it any more true. For all that you know, whoever drew the cover could have simply placed Robin-2 and Question in their respective numbers as a wink to the readers and then used random numbers for the rest of the characters.

and this is why i hate the multiverse endless squabbles over alternate reality continuity... many writers can barely follow one cohesive continuity, now we have 52? ef that and ef dan didio

 

[Anubis]

It's only confusing if you're an idiot.

Kidding. The Multiverse was never all that confusing. It's multiple earths. It's been that way for always, even after they supposedly got rid of it in the Crisis. You've been living with it all this time, now that it's officially back, you have a problem all of a sudden? Every comic book universe has a Multiverse, it's a great part of the superhero and sci-fi genre. Always has been.

Oh and B-Willy, I think you're wrong. Sure, when the Multiverse was first created, it was as a result of Krona looking at creation, but that problem was fixed after the first Crisis. This new Multiverse didn't come about the same way. It came about after the fact, therefore it's possible that there's an OA for every Earth that is supposed to have one. Just like theres a Monitor, and possibly even a Darkseid, New Genisis, Spectre, who knows?

 

[sinewave]

a little late, but canary was a founding member of the jla! i'm glad they didn't **** her over after all.

 

[sethcohen]

for every cool "walter west" alternate stand in we get like 50 stupid instances where writers use it as a deus ex machina

 

[Anubis]

Like when?

 

[sethcohen]

damn i just got pwnd... mostly because im too lazy to do the research

 

[sethcohen]

damn i just got pwnd... mostly because im too lazy to do the research

 

[WompuM]

Oh my goodness. Are you even aware that Alan Scott had nothing whatsoever to do with the Corps? And that the green woman standing there is his daughter, Jade, who also had nothing to do with the Corps? BECAUSE THE CORPS DID NOT EXIST ON EARTH-2 OR ANY OTHER EARTH OTHER THAN EARTH-1? You keep acting like I'm pulling all this sht out of thin air just to spite you or something. This is canon!

My bad, I meant to type Earth Three, not earth two, which clearly shows Hal Jordan as GL prior to being barfed on by Mr. Mind. I know who Alan Scott and Jade are. Give me a little credit. The fact is though that after week 52, the canon is changed. There is a definite possibliltiy of a GL corp being on all 52 earths, and judging by Hal Jordan's appearance as GL on Earth 3, AND the fact that Rip said they are identical in Ever. Single. Way. The fact is that Oa, the Crop. and the Gaurdians do not exsist outside of space/time and are subject to the multiverse just as much as the next fictional character.

I am not denying that in the Earth 2 of yesteryear there was no corp. But in this new Earth 2, Earth 7, and Earth 8 there is the possibility of a Green Lantern Corp. All I am saying is that canon has changed, and I bet that the numbers on the cards coincide with the respected Earth numbers.
The story is called 52 Pick-Up by the way. 52 cards, 52 Earths.

 

[yenaled]

I really liked this issue, I love basking in time travel and pseudo-science jargon I almost reveal in reading about things like that. I had Daniel Carter pegged for Rip Hunter so was surprised when he showed up as a new Supernova - I'd like to see him stick around really.

Hands down the best scene was the Booster/Ted Kord exchange - reminds me how important it is to have dead characters like Ted so you can play on memories. Obviously I just loved the redemption of Booster Gold - even if it is going "unknown" - playing a little homage to his JLU episode maybe? I kind of liked the fact that it shows his actions at the start of the series (before he went into the lab) was out of some kind of guilt that he couldn't help Ted Kord.

I'm OK with the multiverse being back - I always kind of thought it never really went away - with Earth 1/2, Wildstorm, etc there was always a multiverse just not very big. What I wouldn't be OK with is if they start telling loads and loads of stories from those other Earths - and them all interacting all the time. But hopefully they won't do this and the new Multiverse will be more separate than it was pre-COIE.

I'd also certainly read a ghost-Dibney Detectives mini-series - maybe under Tales of the Unexpected title after Spectre finishes.

 

[WompuM]

Oh and B-Willy, I think you're wrong. Sure, when the Multiverse was first created, it was as a result of Krona looking at creation, but that problem was fixed after the first Crisis. This new Multiverse didn't come about the same way. It came about after the fact, therefore it's possible that there's an OA for every Earth that is supposed to have one. Just like theres a Monitor, and possibly even a Darkseid, New Genisis, Spectre, who knows?

Thank for gettin my back bro.

 

[The Question]

Also, another thing I don't get: It shows Wildstorm being part of the DC multiverse. But it's been stated before that Wildstorm is atatched to a different cluster or related dimensions in the multiverse than the DCU. So....what?

 

[Anubis]

It's the snowflake theory. Like, the DCU exists in it's own snowflake, which has a certain number of realities in it, and Wildstorm exists in it's own snowflake, with it's certain number of realities in it. Read Planetary, it'll explain it better. I've always felt it was the best explanation on multiple universes ever.

 

[The Question]

It's the snowflake theory. Like, the DCU exists in it's own snowflake, which has a certain number of realities in it, and Wildstorm exists in it's own snowflake, with it's certain number of realities in it. Read Planetary, it'll explain it better. I've always felt it was the best explanation on multiple universes ever.

I understand the Snowflake theory. It's what I was talking about. How can Wildstorm be in DC's Snowlfake if it's in a seperate Snowlfake?

 

[WompuM]

I don't know. The wildstorm business always confused me. I wouldn't be surprised if to see an intigration of the netire universe into the DCU, like how charleston comics were.

I wonder if this will efect vertigo in anyway.

 

[Varient]

I don't know. The wildstorm business always confused me. I wouldn't be surprised if to see an intigration of the netire universe into the DCU, like how charleston comics were.

I wonder if this will efect vertigo in anyway.

.................

Keep em seperate,...

Start a comic that loosely follows the happenings on the other 51 Earths.

 

[hippy fascist]

I understand the Snowflake theory. It's what I was talking about. How can Wildstorm be in DC's Snowlfake if it's in a seperate Snowlfake?

Because it's not the original wildstorm universe. It's essentially a copy of that universe created by mister mind. He wasn't drawing that universe into the multiverse. He was stripping away parts of a universe identical to that of new earth until it eventually became a carbon copy of the wildstorm universe.

Simple