The Official Avengers Thread (Heroic Age Bendis/JRJR)

[TheCorpulent1]

New Avengers #16 teaser: Enter Daredevil!

Haha, Daredevil's first official act as an Avenger: go on a shooting spree with a chaingun.

 

[runawayboulder]

Based on what went down in DD#2, my guess is he joins NA to pay for Shadowland.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Dang, sucks for DD. Rulk got a spot on the main Avengers team to atone for his sins.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

god, I hate Deodato. If it weren't for him, I'd be reading this book.

 

[kguillou]

Deodato's weird sometimes, when he's good he's GOOD. Like his work on Thunderbolts with Warren Ellis was fantastic. Lately, his art seems a little too "90's" i think.

 

[bored]

I would love to see the Hulk back on the roster again and be an active member.

That's another thing that I am certain will happen sometime next year, relative to the release of the movie.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm not so sure. They might just go the alternate universe route instead. Rather than pair Thor back up with Jane Foster to coincide with the movie, for example, they just put out Thor: The Mighty Avenger alongside the 616 comic. I'm wondering if we might get something like Marvel Heroes: The Avengers or some other all-ages imprint version of the Avengers while Bendis is left to keep running the 616 team into the ground doing whatever he wants to do in the 616 comic.

 

[Hawkingbird]

Kang will be written by Bendis, so adjust your expectations!

Bendis is one of the best Marvel writers of the 21st Centry He's a beast

 

[The Morningstar]

Wha.....? His Avengers is beyond terrible.

Terrible?
T-that's right?
Y-you're sure?
Sure?
Y-yea, i mean, are you totally, you know, sure?
Oh, for real.
So, what you're saying is...
Y-Yea, that's what i'm saying.

 

[bored]

Bendis is one of the best Marvel writers of the 21st Centry He's a beast

Compared to, who, Jeph Loeb?

 

[Anubis]

Am I the only one that read that as sarcasm?

 

[runawayboulder]

It's sarcasm. What I don't get is in the other thread in this forum about greatest Marvel events/comics/issues I see Bendis Avengers work on there time and time again.....

 

[Anubis]

I have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[JewishHobbit]

He's talking about my thread! Go look at it!!!

 

[Drz]

Bendis talks New Avengers: Daredevil & HAMMER!

On Daredevil joining the New Avengers:

Daredevil's invitation to join the New Avengers will come about because of his actions assisting the team in September's "New Avengers" #16. The the last part of a tie-in arc to "Fear Itself," it's fitting that Daredevil, the Man Without Fear, makes his debut in this issue.

"Daredevil doesn't set out to join the New Avengers. He get's dragged into working with them," Bendis told CBR News. "He makes a big splash with the New Avengers during 'Fear itself.' He comes in and has a really great moment that gets everyone feeling like he should be part of the team."

The last time Daredevil had a major interaction with members of the "New Avengers" was during the DD-centric event "Shadowland." In that story, an enraged Matt Murdock was corrupted and eventually possessed by the demonic being worshiped by the ninja assassin cult known as the Hand. While under the influence of this being, Daredevil attacked and nearly killed Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Spider-Man and Wolverine. Considering how he last interacted with his fellow heroes an invitation to join the team is the last thing Daredevil expects when he helps out in "New Avengers" #16.

"The wounds of Shadowland are still a little raw, but the friendships between the characters are that much stronger. The truth about this group of characters, more or less, is they've all been at the receiving end of everyone else's mercy and understanding. They're all characters that built quite a thing around themselves because of the second chances they were given. Matt's not asking for a second chance or even believes he needs it, but once he's given it, he realizes how much he needed it," Bendis explained. "The fact that the invitation to join the Avengers comes after Shadowland makes it that much more emotional. It's like, 'You guys really are my friends.' I think that's what makes the invitation impossible to turn down. If it came to him during the swashbuckling days, it would have been, 'Okay I appreciate that, but…' When it comes, though, after everyone has seen him at his worst and they're still willing to be his friend? That's pretty cool."

New Avengers #16.1 with Neal Adams and the next Avengers story! Ya Dark Avengers. <3

"New Avengers" #16.1, also on sale in September, is designed to bring new readers up to speed while simultaneously preparing regular ones for the next big Avengers epic. Of course, Bendis is perhaps most excited by the opportunity the issue gave him to work with legendary comics artist, Neal Adams."Then I went through my cast, and I don't think he's drawn any of these characters. I think he's drawn the Thing in a couple panels here and there, but I don't think he's drawn pages of the Thing kicking ass. I was like, 'Has he drawn Wolverine?' I decided I was going to fill the page full of characters and things I don't think I've seen him draw. I thought he would love that, and he did. He went nuts," Bendis continued. "You're going to see Iron Fist drawn by Neal Adams in a way that says to you Neal Adams really wanted to draw this. There's a little Jessica Jones action in there as well, because the whole point of this is to turn the world into my personal sketch book," Bendis joked. "I'm absolutely thrilled with how it came out. Paul Mounts' colors look great and it begins our next 'season' for both of my Avengers books, which is the return of Norman Osborn, H.A.M.M.E.R. and the Dark Avengers."

Bendis' Avengers storyline picks up where Jonathan Hickman's recently concluded espionage series "Secret Warriors" came to a close. In Hickman's title, Nick Fury finally destroyed his arch-enemies,the terrorist organization known as HYDRA. Now, with HYDRA gone, H.A.M.M.E.R. is ready to step into the role of the Marvel Universe's top criminal conspiracy.

"What you're going to discover is what H.A.M.M.E.R. has evolved into in Norman's absence. H.A.M.M.E.R. will have become something that involves two or three corners of the Marvel Universe merging together to create one super-organization that there's no way Steve Rogers and his S.H.I.E.L.D. less defense system can battle," Bendis explained. "You're going to see some cool ****. You're going to see Madam Hydra, Gorgon, Norman, Superia and quite a few other characters coming together to create a H.A.M.M.E.R. that can not be defeated. Plus, they have a secret weapon that Norman didn't know about. It's revealed to him and the audience very early in both the pages of 'Avengers' and 'New Avengers.'

"Both teams of Avengers will be handling the H.A.M.M.E.R. situation from their own angles," Bendis continued. "That will be happening in both books, but they'll feature almost completely different genres of stories. The 'New Avengers' will be dealing full-on with H.A.M.M.E.R.'s Dark Avengers, and the 'Avengers' will be dealing full on with H.A.M.M.E.R. as an organization."

Also Neal Adams, the guy's 70 years old but boy can he still draw like a total pro:

 

[JewishHobbit]

Hmm... honestly, not much on the art but the story sounds good. And I love the approach Bendis is taking with Daredevil's joining the team.

 

[runawayboulder]

Eh, Neal Adams is semi-retired and doesn't draw these characters as much so I'm not gonna be to harsh a judge there.

I have a feeling Bendis is jut going to ignore anything Waid is doing on DD. In the recent issue Cap was pretty determined to arrest Matt for Shadowland. To me it seems Waid could be setting it up for DD to join the Avengers as "community service" for Shadowland. Bendis is claiming he just kinda shows up in Fear Itself and they ask him to join.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I have a feeling Bendis is jut going to ignore anything Waid is doing on DD. In the recent issue Cap was pretty determined to arrest Matt for Shadowland. To me it seems Waid could be setting it up for DD to join the Avengers as "community service" for Shadowland. Bendis is claiming he just kinda shows up in Fear Itself and they ask him to join.

I don't mind that. I even like Bendis's approach better. Cap coming after DD in Waid's book felt odd to me. He's known many friends who were possessed and did bad things. Daredevil did kill Bullseye but that wasn't even brought up! They've known each other for years. Cap coming after DD was a good story but felt forced and not quite in character.

Bendis is having his friends overlook that, as good friends should, and still want to accept him, is a really good touch. It's also very in character for Spider-Man, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, and Wolverine. Possession is something each of them understand and they've all been some of Daredevil's closest friends over the years. I think it's better done (in theory so far anyway) than Cap just showing up to arrest him.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, Cap backed off pretty quickly once he realized DD was himself again. I suspect he just came at DD hard because he wasn't sure whether he was still possessed or not and couldn't risk giving him the benefit of the doubt and being wrong.

 

[JewishHobbit]

If that was the case then Waid should have put it on the page. I'm not a fan of making fans make stuff up to put things in character. Not to mention I think Waid was odd on his having Cap worrying about the Trial of Bucky when his death should be a more pressing concern at the moment.

 

[moraldeficiency]

To be fair every member of the NA has been possessed and gone evil before. Most several times.

 

[Anubis]

Assuming he's actually dead.

 

[Hawkingbird]

Am I the only one that read that as sarcasm?

If you're talking about me, no it wasn't. I do think he has his faults, such as pointless stories, irelivant to the plot. But the guy can write some exciting stories. I think Secret Invasion was great! Being English, I'm on Seige and I think it's fab! I don't have much to compare to, as the CA's only pick out the important stories, but I find him amazing. Mark Miller is better, but he's an Ultimate writer more than the MU. Gret Pak is great, but I haven't read something by him in yonks.

 

[moraldeficiency]

If you're talking about me, no it wasn't. I do think he has his faults, such as pointless stories, irelivant to the plot. But the guy can write some exciting stories. I think Secret Invasion was great! Being English, I'm on Seige and I think it's fab! I don't have much to compare to, as the CA's only pick out the important stories, but I find him amazing. Mark Miller is better, but he's an Ultimate writer more than the MU. Gret Pak is great, but I haven't read something by him in yonks.

Stick with "I'm a child rapist" less provocative then this.

 

[Anubis]

If you're talking about me, no it wasn't. I do think he has his faults, such as pointless stories, irelivant to the plot. But the guy can write some exciting stories. I think Secret Invasion was great! Being English, I'm on Seige and I think it's fab! I don't have much to compare to, as the CA's only pick out the important stories, but I find him amazing. Mark Miller is better, but he's an Ultimate writer more than the MU. Gret Pak is great, but I haven't read something by him in yonks.

Ohhhhh, well then they were right to mock you.