The Official Batman Titles Thread

[The BatDude]

Any writers in mind for the backup?

 

[ImWithTeamConan]

I'd read a Cassandra Cain backup.

 

[The BatDude]

Dude if it's good enough writer I'll even read a backup on Alfred

 

[Cobblepot]

Alfred the armchair detective.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

tbh, I'm not a fan of the Manhunter backup. the entire backup feature in general I think is kinda weak. just a way to get us to read stories about B- and C-list characters simply because we wanna read a book like Streets of Gotham that have major players in them.

that said, I'd gladly pay the extra dollar for a Jason Bard or Slam Bradley backup. hell, throw both of 'em into one backup. that would rock.

The B-list character backup is currently the only reason I'm still reading Streets of Gotham. Dini's absence for a couple issues and the breaking up of this Zsasz plot has really made the main story suffer.

 

[Drz]

Indeed.

So is Punisher & Batman story any good? I found out it's written by Dixon and drawn by John Romita Jr... So it can't be horrible or anything, right?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

There are two, the first of which features Frank and AzBat and the second of which features Frank and Bruce. The latter is the one JR Jr. penciled and builds on the first story, but it's not absolutely necessary to have read it beforehand. I thought both were pretty fun stories. Definitely two of the better DC/Marvel crossover stories, although the bar for those isn't particularly high.

 

[Alastor]

I enjoyed the second one a lot more, but that's because I have always been a huge JR Jr. fan. Both are worth a look though.

 

[WompuM]

I would be all up onz an Alfred book. Hell yes. I never considered Bard as Sexton. It's a possibility I suppose. Then again, could be anyone. Could be the true Thomas Wayne in an attempt to defeat Dr. Hurt. I still need to reread his appearances.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd be really disappointed if the true Thomas Wayne were doing anything other than rotting in a grave.

 

[Drz]

I have to agree with Corp. I was fine with the Black Glove being very possibly responsible for the Wayne Family murders. Since thats from the Silver Age Batman Origin story, but having Thomas Wayne been living a fake life all these years is just massive *****ebaggery. I'm digging that Dr. Hurt is very possibly the 18th century satanist Thomas Wayne tho.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, well, your face is 18th century satanist Thomas Wayne!


Oh, wait, that says "agree." Um... never mind.

 

[WompuM]

Oh, I absolutely agree. The Waynes need to stay as dead as bucky jason todd Uncle Ben.

Good call on the 18th Century satanist.

 

[Mystirious]

I have to agree with Corp. I was fine with the Black Glove being very possibly responsible for the Wayne Family murders. Since thats from the Silver Age Batman Origin story, but having Thomas Wayne been living a fake life all these years is just massive *****ebaggery. I'm digging that Dr. Hurt is very possibly the 18th century satanist Thomas Wayne tho.

Though as Dr Hurt/Thomas Wayne/The Devil seems to have a penchant for mind games, there is one way that Morrisson could pull off a twist like that without making Thomas Wayne (The good one, not the 18th century Satanist) appear to be the epitome of *****ebaggy-ness. He could reveal that he was mind wiped by Hurt and the Oberon Sexton persona is an entirely new identity that Hurt crafted for him.

Given his hatred of the Wayne family, it would make sense. Why kill his hated descendant when he could instead mind rape him and leave him to lead a life never getting to see his son grow up, while at the same time leaving Bruce grief stricken and mourning a father who was really alive and well

 

[Drz]

Eeeh. I still prefer the Mangrove Pierce/Joker = Oberon Sexton stuff rather. I just can't approve Thomas Wayne being alive all these years, nor would i imagen Morrison pulling something like that off.

 

[Mystirious]

Eeeh. I still prefer the Mangrove Pierce/Joker = Oberon Sexton stuff rather. I just can't approve Thomas Wayne being alive all these years, nor would i imagen Morrison pulling something like that off.

I would rather he stayed dead as well. His is a death I raher consider "Sacred" I suppose you might say. Like Gwen Stacy and Uncle Ben. I know full well that death is cheap in comics, but some people should stay dead I think

I was merely playing devils advocate in a way. Suggesting a scenario in which Thomas Wayne could still be alive without making him into the biggest monster imaginable for lying to his son all these years and pretending to be dead

 

[ImWithTeamConan]

Thomas Wayne Dr. Hurt isn't Thomas Wayne Bruce's father. Thomas Wayne Dr. Hurt is one of Bruce's great ancestors. I thought this was in the last issue of Batman and Robin.

 

[Mystirious]

Thomas Wayne Dr. Hurt isn't Thomas Wayne Bruce's father. Thomas Wayne Dr. Hurt is one of Bruce's great ancestors. I thought this was in the last issue of Batman and Robin.

I know that. I was suggesting a scenario in which Thomas Wayne/Dr Hurt mind wiped Thomas Wayne/Bruce's Father and crafted the persona of Oberon Sexton as a way of further messing with the Wayne family he seems to have so much hatred for

And you are correct, the 18th Century Thomas Wayne/Dr Hurt plot point first cropped up in the last issue of Batman & Robin.

 

[The BatDude]

yeah I actually think

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Bruce Wayne is either Dr Hurt or Sexton.

 

[ImWithTeamConan]

That's what I love about Morrison's run, there are so many mysteries and ways to interpret it. For example...

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I read on another forum an interesting theory. In 52 Wayne came out of Thorogal and stated that he had got rid of his demons. A poster had this idea that perhaps Dr. Hurt was a manifestation of those demons. It's a variation on the Hurt is the "devil" theory that's been floating around for a while.

 

[Drz]

@BatDude: I can't imagen Dr. Hurt being Bruce Wayne all along because it destroyes the whole point of Batman R.I.P in which he is trying to corrupt Bruce Wayne. Anyhow take a look at this Oberon Sexton picture:

Seems familiar doesn't it? Well Oberon's none other than:

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The Chicken from Animaniacs!

 

[Tron Bonne]

That's what I love about Morrison's run, there are so many mysteries and ways to interpret it. For example...

Spoiler

I read on another forum an interesting theory. In 52 Wayne came out of Thorogal and stated that he had got rid of his demons. A poster had this idea that perhaps Dr. Hurt was a manifestation of those demons. It's a variation on the Hurt is the "devil" theory that's been floating around for a while.

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Well, the whole Dr. Hurt as the Devil/a Devil isn't really a rumor. That was something that Morrison actually said not too long after RIP

 

[WompuM]

CHICKEN BOO!!!!

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Oh. My. God.

 

[The BatDude]

That's what I love about Morrison's run, there are so many mysteries and ways to interpret it. For example...

Spoiler

I read on another forum an interesting theory. In 52 Wayne came out of Thorogal and stated that he had got rid of his demons. A poster had this idea that perhaps Dr. Hurt was a manifestation of those demons. It's a variation on the Hurt is the "devil" theory that's been floating around for a while.

Totally man I thought the same thing. Bruce exorcised his demons and they manifested into Dr Hurt, he's a evil Tulpa. It's similar to what Morrison touched upon in Fantastic Four 1234 where Doom is Reed's tulpa. After all Nanda Parbat is in Tibet, where all things are common concepts to Tibet Buddhist Monk. As for Sexton I think he's

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the real Bruce Wayne

 

[WompuM]

He seems way too vulnerable to be Bruce. How do we know he's not just Oberon Sexton? This is Morrison after all. He's not huge on who-izitz. Look at Libra. He turned out to be Libra.