First Avenger The Official Captain America Critic's Review Thread - Part 1

[MARVEL ROCKS]

It will be kind of disappointing if this gets a negative tomato score as it's the only one of the Avenger's setup movies to do so...they were on a roll. I mean I liked Thor but was shocked at the amount of positive reviews it got from critics. I guess that was due to Branaugh...and the acting was great, especially Hiddleston.

Sometimes I feel that critics give a certain movie positive reviews because it was directed by a person who they respect a lot. In Thor's case Branaugh is a well respected actor and director.

In Captain America's case, Joe Johnston has never been given the respect he deserves. I liked Wolfman for it's period setting. The movie had script issues and in some ways felt rushed, which killed it. Nothing to do with Joe Johnston's technical skills.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

OR

Fans of comic book action movies tend to like comic book action movies and be more forgiving of their faults when the movie is genuinely a ton of fun...and there's nothing wrong with that. Unlike other critics who are more picky.

So, it is alright to over look faults, but if you point them out you're picky. Ok....

 

[mtaffer]

Yeah and Rocketeer is more of a cult classic than it was a critical darling.

 

[Saitou Hajime]

You are crazy. What if he was about to be smashed between two moving vehicles?

Then I presume he will use some acrobatic moves, just like the explosion leap or the mid-air rope catch in the film. I'm talking about more mundane combat situations where only the minimal amount of action is necessary; using acrobatics in such situations is flashy.

It has nothing to do with flash. We're talking about when it's necessarily used. Not just doing back flips and aerials throughout the movie.

That's precisely what I've been talking about. Cap in the film has been shown to have ability to resolve a situation with only a few moves, hence minimal acrobatics. In the situations that does require acrobatics, he does them.

 

[Gamma Burst]

Stop talking facts. Godman is gonna need a translator.

LOL! So true.

 

[Kalonthar]

I see Ebert liked it per metacritic.

 

[Hurm...]

It's funny because when I check out the reviews of The Rocketeer on its RT page, they sound strikingly similar to the reviews for Capt.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Then I presume he will use some acrobatic moves, just like the explosion leap or the mid-air rope catch in the film. I'm talking about more mundane combat situations where only the minimal amount of action is necessary; using acrobatics in such situations is flashy.

That's precisely what I've been talking about. Cap in the film has been shown to have ability to resolve a situation with only a few moves, hence minimal acrobatics. In the situations that does require acrobatics, he does them.

Yeah, the last thing you want is a Power Ranger looking flip transition into every scene. It would corny as heck.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Then I presume he will use some acrobatic moves, just like the explosion leap or the mid-air rope catch in the film. I'm talking about more mundane combat situations where only the minimal amount of action is necessary; using acrobatics in such situations is flashy.

That's precisely what I've been talking about. Cap in the film has been shown to have ability to resolve a situation with only a few moves, hence minimal acrobatics. In the situations that does require acrobatics, he does them.

Nah, what you were talking about was that Cap would be flashy if he used acrobatics. You ASSUMED we weren't talking practicality. So I gave you an example of where it could be utilized without it being deemed flashy by yourself.

 

[Flemm]

Sometimes I feel that critics give a certain movie positive reviews because it was directed by a person who they respect a lot. In Thor's case Branaugh is a well respected actor and director.

Ebert, who loved Branagh's Hamlet, for example, basically mocked Branagh for his work on Thor and slammed the movie. Also, a very large percentage of reviews took a shot at him for his love of dutch angles. Others took the opportunity to call his Shakespeare films overrated. Nobody was giving the film a pass because of Branagh's involvement. Thor got pretty good reviews overall because it was a pretty good movie. A few obvious flaws that everybody pointed out, but some really strong strengths (largely a lot of good performances).

Cap may end up in more or less the same place critically. But wherever it ends up, it will most likely get approximately the rating it deserves, give or take a few percentage points.

Personally, I expect to enjoy it a lot and will be going on Saturday.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Yeah, the last thing you want is a Power Ranger looking flip transition into every scene. It would corny as heck.

That's not what we were saying ....

 

[Spider-X]

So, it is alright to over look faults, but if you point them out you're picky. Ok....

once again another black or white statement...have some of you even heard of the color gray? I didn't mean all other critics are picky if they don't like the movie...but several most definitely are.

Look, take me for instance...I like most comic book movies including Elektra, Blade Trinity, the first FF (the 2nd was an abortion even regardless of how they handled Galactic, which was horrible), and Punisher War Zone. I completely acknowledge that these are not really good movies and they have tons of problems...but I'm able to over look them because I'm a fan with particular tastes and if you itch my scratch correctly (take it how you will) I can be get past those faults and enjoy the movie for the qualities I enjoy.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That's not what we were saying ....

I wasn't responding to your post.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

once again another black or white statement...have some of you even heard of the color gray? I didn't mean all other critics are picky if they don't like the movie...but several most definitely are.

Look, take me for instance...I like most comic book movies including Elektra, Blade Trinity, the first FF (the 2nd was an abortion even regardless of how they handled Galactic, which was horrible), and Punisher War Zone. I completely acknowledge that these are not really good movies and they have tons of problems...but I'm able to over look them because I'm a fan with particular tastes and if you itch my scratch correctly (take it how you will) I can be get past those faults and enjoy the movie for the qualities I enjoy.

Which I absolutely agree with. I like and enjoy plenty of flawed and even bad films. That doesn't make them good imo.

 

[Rock Sexton]

I wasn't responding to your post.

You responded in agreement to someone who insinuated we wanted some flashy BS like that Power Ranger crap. Hence my response.

 

[Liam_H]

That's precisely what I've been talking about. Cap in the film has been shown to have ability to resolve a situation with only a few moves, hence minimal acrobatics. In the situations that does require acrobatics, he does them.

I could be wrong since I know very minimal about Cap, but I was told that he could asses a situation very quickly and plan out his maneuvers in at advance. So he could basically take out an entire room of enemies with very minimal effort. Am I wrong or is this one of Cap's abilities?

 

[Marvel]

http://wvgazette.com/Entertainment/201107201307

"The fourth comic book movie of the summer is the best comic book movie of the summer."

 

[DarthSkywalker]

You responded in agreement to someone who insinuated we wanted some flashy BS like that Power Ranger crap. Hence my response.

I was responding to his assessment, which I agreed with.

 

[Hurm...]

I could be wrong since I know very minimal about Cap, but I was told that he could asses a situation very quickly and plan out his maneuvers in at advance. So he could basically take out an entire room of enemies with very minimal effort. Am I wrong or is this one of Cap's abilities?

It certainly looks that way in this clip lol

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[Spider-X]

I was responding to his assessment, which I agreed with.

If I may be so bold...I'd like to respond to your response about someone else's response to a response you responded to.

 

[The Lizard]

I could be wrong since I know very minimal about Cap, but I was told that he could asses a situation very quickly and plan out his maneuvers in at advance. So he could basically take out an entire room of enemies with very minimal effort. Am I wrong or is this one of Cap's abilities?

Yes, Cap is very much like Batman in that respect.

 

[Liam_H]

It certainly looks that way in this clip lol

Its probably out of context and it'll look better in the film but that clip just bothered me with how cartoony some of the parts looked. I mean are the Hydra soldiers just regular men or are they powered up in some way? Because the way Cap knocks them around it makes it seem like they're being pulled back by strings or just made of rubber.

I mean one soldier at 0:10 does more than a 360 flip backwards when hes knocked back with the shield. My mind just can't help but think his skull would've just shattered with that much force. I'm probably in the minority and over thinking it but I can't help it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

If I may be so bold...I'd like to respond to your response about someone else's response to a response you responded to.

I didn't read the conversation, and I was responding to the part I put in bold. The need to go around using gifs instead of words is one reason I rather not bother with some.

 

[Kalonthar]

In fairness, a picture is worth a thousand words and that gif was 26 frames.

 

[Rock Sexton]

I didn't read the conversation, and I was responding to the part I put in bold. The need to go around using gifs instead of words is one reason I rather not bother with some.

You didn't read the conversation, yet you prefer words to gifs. Niiiiiiiiice.