Days of Future Past The Official Dofp MAGAZINES Thread

[Great Mind(s)]

Also Magneto has an awesome costume to show off, Xavier is hippied out, not as cover friendly as Magneto.

 

[Loganbabe]

I'm surprised that there's even an argument about whether Fassbender is more known than McAvoy in the States.

When George Clooney is making jokes about the size of your equipment during the Golden Globes, I think you've officially made it in Hollywood.

Okay. If people believe that penis jokes made by Clooney are the measurement of the importance of any actor worldwide, I have nothing more to add.

 

[danoyse]

I didn't say people would complain to see him on a cover. I said people would complain if he was on a cover instead of Hugh or Fassbender, in a group shot with the actors who are supposed to play the main characters in the film.

That's not true, and if that's what you think of the people of this forum, then you're not paying attention to it at all.

Okay, one thing has nothing to do with the other. First, I feel sorry for fans when their favorite characters are cut from the film, like Rogue, or underused, like Psylocke. And I don't have ANY kind of problems with fans complaining about any of this, even if other people have problems about me complaining about whatever I'm complaining. Anyway, I never jumped on anyone for complaining about their favorite characters being snubbed or something, because I believe that forums are a way of venting about whatever it is that saddens or angers you. Eventually the pity party is over and you move on, but some people just like to keep nagging and nagging, instead of moving on too. Which is crazy. Like I said, I rarely post here and people kind of know what to expect of me so that they can put me on ignore and I won't bother them, so it's difficult to understand some extreme reactions to whatever I say.

Except that you seem to think that because people aren't getting as upset because James McAvoy was excluded from a magazine cover that they don't care or that they dislike him. That's not true. No one here is doing. Hell, this very discussion has all involved talking about how much they like him.

You can be upset about it, but you need to stop making up these crazy assumptions when everyone doesn't react the same as you. It doesn't mean they don't care. If they're getting mad at you, it's because you keep accusing them of things that just aren't true.

Like I'll never understand the extreme reaction to Angamb. Yes, he complained a lot about spoilers or some other absurd thing, but people like him bring diversity to a forum. I like crazy and absurd people, and if you are not being offensive to anyone in particular, then why not? How boring to have so much common sense all the time. How boring to see people liking the same things, or hating the same things.

Well, he called me the c-word and told me to go kill myself. He's still doing it on Twitter now that he's banned. Still think he brings the fun to this forum? Remember that the next time you want to complain about what you have to put up with on this forum.

Second, the magazine cover. Yes, we could have had an EW cover with Blink, Colossus and Iceman and it would have been cool. But realistic? No. So it's not a surprise to guess that the fans of those characters wouldn't expect this to happen, so there wouldn't be complaints. But there's a character called Charles Xavier and even EW magazine says in the article that he has the main arc in the film and then you look at the cover and the actor playing the character isn't there. A realistic expectation that the guy would be featured and then a realistic complaint that he isn't? I guess so.

But he's not. That's just how it is, and there's nothing we can do about it. He's on other covers, and doing plenty of other promos...so not everyone thinks its the slight that you're making it out to be. That's all it is.

 

[Malik]

Ew gross, how rude of Angamb. EW at the end of the day care only about sales j.law, hugh, fassy sell.

 

[Loganbabe]

That's not true, and if that's what you think of the people of this forum, then you're not paying attention to it at all.

This was my original message:

They mention Charles Xavier's backstory being the main focus of the film and didn't even bother to include McAvoy and Stewart on the cover. Nice, EW. I'll save my money on this one.

Please point me in the direction of any accusation I made to anyone here or any personal attack. It was a comment about what I consider a bad editorial decision. People can agree or disagree with what EW decided to do with the cover; I disagree. Apparently, I can't, because as soon as I claim I would like to see McAvoy on the cover, I'm attacking or offending someone here. Curious. The next poster said I was *********. Which is something personal, while I was just complaining about the magazine and not saying "I bet you're all happy that McAvoy was excluded". Anyway, the person later said he was sorry and I said it was okay and explained why the lack of James/Charles on the cover bothered me so much. Again, not pointing fingers at anyone here, only at EW. To me, the subject was over. But then a lot of posters, including you, tried to make me feel like a wacko for making a simple complaint.

As for people complaining if James / Charles was on the cover but not Fassbender...do you really think there wouldn't be complaints if that happened? Magneto is much more admired in this forum than Charles Xavier; this is quite obvious. How is this making false accusations? I never said that people would hate seeing McAvoy on the cover, but many would probably hate seeing Magneto be excluded because the magazine needed to show Xavier.

Except that you seem to think that because people aren't getting as upset because James McAvoy was excluded from a magazine cover that they don't care or that they dislike him. That's not true. No one here is doing. Hell, this very discussion has all involved talking about how much they like him.

Again, I never once touched the subject of people here not liking him. I really don't understand why you're insisting with this. Of course if more people were upset about the cover snub, nice, but I never wrote anything to rally people against EW or suggest we should send them hate messages and burn all the issues. I gave my OWN opinion on the subject, said I wasn't going to buy the issue and that was it. Again with no personal attacks and not calling anyone here names or suggesting that they don't like McAvoy.

You can be upset about it, but you need to stop making up these crazy assumptions when everyone doesn't react the same as you. It doesn't mean they don't care. If they're getting mad at you, it's because you keep accusing them of things that just aren't true.

What assumptions and what I'm accusing people of? Please explain. I said I didn't like the cover, the next poster said I was *********. Yeah I can see how being annoyed with a magazine causes a deep distress on people. Saying I don't like something is making accusations?

Well, he called me the c-word and told me to go kill myself. He's still doing it on Twitter now that he's banned. Still think he brings the fun to this forum? Remember that the next time you want to complain about what you have to put up with on this forum.

We are not aware of what posters say in private to mods and I have no idea of what Angamb says on twitter because I'm not interested in following him. Of course I only knew what he wrote here. If he said that it's terrible. But then I had a poster here accusing me of being mentally unstable, publicly. Definitely terrible too, but we have to deal with people not being nice almost daily during all our lives, not only in forums.

But he's not. That's just how it is, and there's nothing we can do about it. He's on other covers, and doing plenty of other promos...so not everyone thinks its the slight that you're making it out to be. That's all it is.

The fact that "we can't do anything about it" hasn't stopped people from complaining about Cyclops' death or whatever. The cover annoyed me, I expressed myself, and to me the subject was over as soon as I vented about it. People could simply ignore what I said or disagree without personal attacks - and there were people who did it. But if people are calling me names or suggesting I'm this or that because I expressed a simple opinion, they are justified because I'm upsetting them when I defend an actor? Wow, really.

 

[bizuk]

Okay. If people believe that penis jokes made by Clooney are the measurement of the importance of any actor worldwide, I have nothing more to add.

I think what I said was clearly pretty tongue-in-cheek, but since you seem to take issue with it:

First, I never said Clooney's joke indicated worldwide importance, only making it in Hollywood.

Second, although it was a semi-serious comment, there is a nugget of truth in it. The Golden Globes are a nationally broadcast awards show and Clooney is a known and liked A-list actor. The joke would definitely have gotten a few people talking about Fassbender that night and then again on news, entertainment and gossip sites the next day. Having your name in the public sphere like that is one part of the publicity equation. Roles in talked-about films like Shame, Prometheus and 12 Years a Slave are another part of that equation. Paparazzi taking pictures of Fassbender and magazines talking about who he's dating are another part.

Clooney's joke might seem puerile, but it's one small thing amongst others that helps give Fassbender more notoriety in America, which in turn influences who is being used on EW's covers. It rarely has anything to do with who's really important in the film; most of X3's marketing was Hugh and Halle centric, even though Jean was more important to the movie than Storm was. Mystique was never a big part of marketing before she was played by a nationally-recognized, A-list actress. And Magneto may have a smaller role than Xavier this time, but he's probably a bigger draw on face and name alone.

 

[danoyse]

This was my original message:

Please point me in the direction of any accusation I made to anyone here or any personal attack.

Here you go:

Staff meeting or not, he was still excluded. I read a lot of tweets yesterday from people complaining. I read one yesterday of a person showing a photo of EW in her hands saying "Man, they burned James McAvoy". Of course here, I'm the only one who cares. So be it.

And here:

I didn't say people would complain to see him on a cover. I said people would complain if he was on a cover instead of Hugh or Fassbender, in a group shot with the actors who are supposed to play the main characters in the film.

How many wildly untrue assumptions do you need to make about the rest of this forum before you realize that this attitude is not helping you?

From that same post:

It was a comment about what I consider a bad editorial decision. People can agree or disagree with what EW decided to do with the cover; I disagree. Apparently, I can't, because as soon as I claim I would like to see McAvoy on the cover, I'm attacking or offending someone here. Curious. The next poster said I was *********. Which is something personal, while I was just complaining about the magazine and not saying "I bet you're all happy that McAvoy was excluded". Anyway, the person later said he was sorry and I said it was okay and explained why the lack of James/Charles on the cover bothered me so much.
Again, not pointing fingers at anyone here, only at EW. To me, the subject was over. But then a lot of posters, including you, tried to make me feel like a wacko for making a simple complaint.

Yes, josh8 made an unnecessary comment and I told everyone to quit griping with each other. He apologized, it's over. Everyone else simply explained why they're not as upset as you over a magazine cover...and suddenly you're whipping back with how people would complain if it was the other way around (even though they wouldn't) and assuming we all think you're "wacko" for being upset (which isn't true either).

What people are tired of is acting like every exclusion of your favorite actor is some deliberate act of negligence that we're all just fine with. Or accusations that 'we just don't care' every time we don't agree that it's negligence.

There was a banner he wasn't on, and it had you claiming that it was a bias against the handicapped, of all things. How ridiculous. Do you see how complaints like this start to grate on everyone's nerves every time we predictably launch into this discussion anytime he's not on a magazine cover?

As for people complaining if James / Charles was on the cover but not Fassbender...do you really think there wouldn't be complaints if that happened? Magneto is much more admired in this forum than Charles Xavier; this is quite obvious. How is this making false accusations? I never said that people would hate seeing McAvoy on the cover, but many would probably hate seeing Magneto be excluded because the magazine needed to show Xavier.

That's not even remotely true. This is the conclusion you leap to you because people don't get as irrationally upset as you do whenever this happens. It's unfair and ridiculous, and people are tired of it. And we're getting especially tired of you hauling out your victim card every time people tell you they're tired of the attitude from you.

Again, I never once touched the subject of people here not liking him. I really don't understand why you're insisting with this. Of course if more people were upset about the cover snub, nice, but I never wrote anything to rally people against EW or suggest we should send them hate messages and burn all the issues. I gave my OWN opinion on the subject, said I wasn't going to buy the issue and that was it. Again with no personal attacks and not calling anyone here names or suggesting that they don't like McAvoy.

That is all you do anymore. I have no idea why you still bother with this forum. You complain about something, people respond with why it doesn't bother them, you come back and claim they all don't care and how much you're apparently victimized by being a voice of dissent that no one agrees with.

What assumptions and what I'm accusing people of? Please explain. I said I didn't like the cover, the next poster said I was *********. Yeah I can see how being annoyed with a magazine causes a deep distress on people. Saying I don't like something is making accusations?

And that was wrong, a warning went out on the thread, and the person apologized. It's over.

We are not aware of what posters say in private to mods and I have no idea of what Angamb says on twitter because I'm not interested in following him. Of course I only knew what he wrote here. If he said that it's terrible. But then I had a poster here accusing me of being mentally unstable, publicly. Definitely terrible too, but we have to deal with people not being nice almost daily during all our lives, not only in forums.

Of course you're not aware of that, which is why I told you. I don't follow Angamb on Twitter, or Alexei and any of his dozen or so personas that keep trying to sneak back in here. But they have plenty of time to find and stalk my Twitter account...in addition to offenses that got them banned here. My point was that maybe you'll remember that the next time you need to turn yourself into a martyr or bring up incidents that people have been infracted or probated for doing to you that you're not being beaten up on here with nothing being done about it.

If you want to be treated better, you need to start reviewing your own attitude on here. James McAvoy won't be on every bit of promotion for the movie. If you're going to launch into the same series of complaints every time that happens, people are going to get sick of it, and it's going to be harder and harder for them to resist telling you so. If you're going to jump down the throat of someone who likes a Fassbender picture better than a McAvoy picture (which you did on another thread), then you're going to be told to back off.

In more professional terms than someone put it earlier: you need to stop getting so wound up whenever you don't see McAvoy on a piece of promotion, and you need to start being less accusatory to the people disagreeing with you about it.

You don't like that he wasn't on the EW cover. Fine. You've had your say about it. Now move on.

The fact that "we can't do anything about it" hasn't stopped people from complaining about Cyclops' death or whatever. The cover annoyed me, I expressed myself, and to me the subject was over as soon as I vented about it. People could simply ignore what I said or disagree without personal attacks - and there were people who did it. But if people are calling me names or suggesting I'm this or that because I expressed a simple opinion, they are justified because I'm upsetting them when I defend an actor? Wow, really.

People still complain about Cyclops' death because it happened in the movie and compromised how the series moves forward with stories involving that character. James McAvoy wasn't on a magazine cover. There's a big difference.

People are going to disagree with you. They're not all calling you names, and the ones who have have been infracted, warned, and probated for doing so. But they can certainly disagree with you and you have to stop getting offended that they do.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

I find it really poor that we haven't had much powered up pics of the mutants in marketing. The Empire Colossus pic is pretty much the only one of him with Metal skin. No promos of Sunspot or Iceman in their flames/Icy state

 

[psylockolussus]

I feel you, but I think its probably expensive?

But since the budget is already big, might as well go big with marketing.

 

[xrs13]

or more they want to show off actors and both Shawn and Adan are more known than Daniel.

 

[Malik]

Does the following have good ratings? All I've seen of Daniel is from those twilight movies.

 

[EnDz0n3]

I had to unfollow Shawn on twitter because of the constant (and annoying) tweets about The Following. lol

 

[xrs13]

Does the following have good ratings? All I've seen of Daniel is from those twilight movies.

Yeah the Following has quite the following hahaha I will show myself out.

 

[psylockolussus]

Does the following have good ratings? All I've seen of Daniel is from those twilight movies.

The ratings for season2 are quite low.

It was such a hit in the 1st season and the season 2 premiere had high ratings but now its get 1.4 in the 18-49 demo ratings.

 

[EnDz0n3]

I should be getting my Subscriber's Only issue of Empire later this month. I got it from Ebay.

 

[eledoremassis02]

Picked this up last night

First place where I've seen the movies rating (PG 13)

 

[KidxMikexMcfly]

I should be getting my Subscriber's Only issue of Empire later this month. I got it from Ebay.

Lol the sheets make the mag look better

 

[EnDz0n3]

Haha those are not my sheets. I'll be sure to power hose the magazine down once I get it.

 

[KidxMikexMcfly]

Ctfu , it would look nice in a frame though. I'm shocked we haven't gotten an all woman magazine cover yet.

 

[EnDz0n3]

They had a Maxim cover for X-men with Halle, Famke and Rebecca

 

[KidxMikexMcfly]

I remember that, I mean for this era though lol. It seems as Mystique is on a lot if the magazine covers I've seen so far. I haven't been impressed by her poses either, they could've at least given her that white plastic fun, or some other assassin's weapon.

 

[jaymes_e06]

I feel you, but I think its probably expensive?

But since the budget is already big, might as well go big with marketing.

Well sense marketing is free I think it's safe to assume they can go all out.

 

[eledoremassis02]

Picked these up today. The Xavier one is all bent but it was the last one the book store had so I figured, might as well get them

Edit:

Also found this

 

[EnDz0n3]

That's a new Xavier cover ^^ I wonder if there are new pics inside the magazine?

I also just picked up Total Film (they only have the two Magnetos cover) and Entertainment Weekly. I've forgotten how crappy the paper EW uses on their print magazine

 

[X-Maniac]

Shame that magazine couldn't spell the name Maleficent correctly on its cover, lol...

Might be an inherent problem with the movie title - no one knows how to say it or spell it....