The Official Flash thread

[Motown Marvel]

i loves barry.

 

[The Geek Vault]

ya know what I was just thinking... who names their kid Barry these days?

 

[sethcohen]

a father who is accused for the murder of his wife in a geoff johns retcon

 

[BrianWilly]

My dad's name is Barry.

 

[Tron Bonne]

ya know what I was just thinking... who names their kid Barry these days?

I bet Geoff Johns does.

 

[MadVillainy]

kinda OT: Can someone explain to me the benefits of having Barry in the first Flash film. In the Flash movie thread ppl just say He's the first Flash (which he isn't), He's witty (but Wally is funnier), and since they are casting Hal in the GL movie it only makes sense. So I was just wondering what other reason are there?

 

[yenaled]

There is no reason except nostalgia.

I think if making a film starting the story with the death of Barry and Wally taking over his mantle after being Kid Flash is far more interesting than yet another standard origin movie.

But then again I think having to watch Hal's test fighter crash and him get a ring for the 50th time is boring as Hell but other people seem to love it.

 

[Tron Bonne]

There is no reason except nostalgia.

I think if making a film starting the story with the death of Barry and Wally taking over his mantle after being Kid Flash is far more interesting than yet another standard origin movie.

But then again I think having to watch Hal's test fighter crash and him get a ring for the 50th time is boring as Hell but other people seem to love it.

That would be interesting if they decided to do that, but they probably won't. They'll probably just go with Barry Allen origin story and have him battle whoever just because he's the 'current' main Flash. Unless they get a filmmaker who's really into the comics and is a diehard Wally fan

 

[MadVillainy]

There is no reason except nostalgia.

I think if making a film starting the story with the death of Barry and Wally taking over his mantle after being Kid Flash is far more interesting than yet another standard origin movie.

But then again I think having to watch Hal's test fighter crash and him get a ring for the 50th time is boring as Hell but other people seem to love it.

THat is great. Thats actually exaclty what I put in my idea for the Flash movie. Barry isnt even a fan favorite Wally generally liked more. It is better to have Wally pick up the mantle and deal with the pressures of fulfilling a legacy than have Barry just have his origin

 

[BrianWilly]

No one posted this? Preview for #2.

 

[Ion Kenshin]

I did about a page back

 

[The Apocalypse]

I've always wanted to get into the Flash but I don't really know much about the Origins of him. I just know there are two or three of them throughout the years. So I picked up Rebirth and was confused but it was really interesting. Are there any trades out there with the origins of Flash?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Wally's origins and early years are covered nicely in Flash: Born to Run. I don't know where Jay and Barry's are.

 

[ironman29758]

well some people liek wally basiaclly because of the justice league/JLU animated series. Barry to me represents the greatest hero(espacially of the silver age) Wally and Bart took influence of him. Even Jay was influenced by Barry in some way. and I agree with everything Kevin Smith and Protocida said about Barry. A movie about Barry, with cameos showing Jay Garrick, Wally West(pre kid Flash day) would be perfect for me.

 

[Tron Bonne]

well some people liek wally basiaclly because of the justice league/JLU animated series. Barry to me represents the greatest hero(espacially of the silver age) Wally and Bart took influence of him. Even Jay was influenced by Barry in some way. and I agree with everything Kevin Smith and Protocida said about Barry. A movie about Barry, with cameos showing Jay Garrick, Wally West(pre kid Flash day) would be perfect for me.

Well, there's more to it then just that. Just as a whole generation grew up with Barry Allen as the Flash, a whole generation grew up with Wally West as the Flash. The animated series and short-lived live action show just kind of reinstates that. I personally don't think the animated Justice League had that kind of influence

 

[Mr. Green]

Yeah, I gotta say, I do like Wally a lot better. Just as Teardrop (and many others) said, he's the Flash I grew up with and I never watched that JLU show so...

I'm kinda wishing now that Johns would just take over writing duties on Flash and leave Barry dead.

On the other hand, there's more untapped potential with Barry. Wally had years of awesome writing and art and I think it makes sense for Barry to have his turn.

 

[MadVillainy]

I agree with Teardrop and Mr. Green (except I watched JLU). And not even that I just think Wally is also more funny and interesting

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, there's more to it then just that. Just as a whole generation grew up with Barry Allen as the Flash, a whole generation grew up with Wally West as the Flash. The animated series and short-lived live action show just kind of reinstates that. I personally don't think the animated Justice League had that kind of influence

I honestly don't understand how anyone could've become a fan of Wally specifically with JL/JLU. Not only do they effectively give him Wally's name and appearance with Barry's job and origin, making him neither Barry nor Wally in any sense that matters, he's also kind of an idiot and often a handicap to the team. There are some good moments with him, but they're outnumbered by terrible moments, like that episode where he couldn't catch up with a speeding van. :facepalm

 

[Keyser Soze]

There is no reason except nostalgia.

I think if making a film starting the story with the death of Barry and Wally taking over his mantle after being Kid Flash is far more interesting than yet another standard origin movie.

See, I'd do a movie from the perspective of the Rogues, where Captain Cold is your anti-hero, and the local superhero The Flash - beloved public celebrity, hopelessly outclasses the Rogues - is almost a de facto antagonist. But I'm weird that way, and I know that approach is not blockbuster material.

 

[MadVillainy]

I honestly don't understand how anyone could've become a fan of Wally specifically with JL/JLU. Not only do they effectively give him Wally's name and appearance with Barry's job and origin, making him neither Barry nor Wally in any sense that matters, he's also kind of an idiot and often a handicap to the team. There are some good moments with him, but they're outnumbered by terrible moments, like that episode where he couldn't catch up with a speeding van. :facepalm

Lol I agree with about the first sentence but Wally was great in JL/JLU

 

[Tron Bonne]

I honestly don't understand how anyone could've become a fan of Wally specifically with JL/JLU. Not only do they effectively give him Wally's name and appearance with Barry's job and origin, making him neither Barry nor Wally in any sense that matters, he's also kind of an idiot and often a handicap to the team. There are some good moments with him, but they're outnumbered by terrible moments, like that episode where he couldn't catch up with a speeding van. :facepalm

It's been a long time since I've seen either show. When I think back to Wally in those shows the only moment I vividly remember is his ownage of that Lex Luther/Brainaic fusion. That was awesome. I do remember he was kind of overly goofy, though I don't remember being all that bothered by it when I watched it. I don't even really remember them talking about his job or anything like that

 

[Flash Facts]

Barry wasn't great until he died then suddenly he was a saint.

IMO Wally was great on JLA/U. The only reason Wally had so many bad moments is because the creaters said that they felt they had to have them because otherwise he would be so powerful that he wouldnt need the JLA. His implied orgin had little to do with his actual character. I think the episode FLASH AND SUBSTANCE pretty much sums up what made Wally a good character in those series
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[Anubis]

Maaaaannnnn f**k Barry Allen. (This needs to be said on every page of this thread from now on.)

 

[Tron Bonne]

Barry wasn't great until he died then suddenly he was a saint.

Well, now I don't know about that. I think Barry is a good character, but his death was, in my opinion, probably the most well done death in comic history. It also was hugely significant to not just DC comics, but to comic history. Plus, he was successfully replaced for over 20 years. Of course, personal bias does come into play with that. Some will always like Wally the best and some will always like Barry more. Personally, I think Wally was the better and more interesting character of the two.

To me, bringing back Barry is about the same as Marvel bringing back Uncle Ben or Gwen Stacy and making them regular cast members in Spider-Man. Not only is it unneeded, I also think it dulls down the significance of them.

What's done is done, though. All I can do is not read Flash and bide time until whenever Wally may return to main Flash status, and hope he gets at least some respect as a character in the overall current DCU

 

[Assassin]

kill him again!