The Official Flash thread

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't think Johns meant a hardass, per se. Just not sympathetic to the Rogues the way Wally was. Rather than believe that people can change, Barry probably would just throw them in jail. Which, of course, means Piper, the Trickster, and Heat Wave never would've had a chance to reform. Of course, Johns turned Heat Wave's reform around and had him rejoin the Rogues anyway, and he wrote the Trickster as morally ambiguous at best, even as a fed. Piper's the only one whose reform has stuck to any reasonable extent.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Actually that is not correct.


According to the films makers the film employs a different t time travel theory then used in may of the trek stories to have come before.

It used the theroy physicist Hugh Everett postulated Many Worlds Interpretation.This suggested that an atomic particle can and does exist in more than one place at one time.The particle is basically omnipresent.

This means that every decision , every action, or event that has ever taken place in our reality, has resulted in an infinite amount of different outcomes, in an infinite amount of other "universes" or "realities".

This theory basically solves any of the paradox problems associated with the old notion of TIme Travel.

When a traveler arrives in the past, the moment he arrives he has already changed the past . At this point the timeline will branch away from the original timeline, and create an alternate timeline.

THe original timeline will continue, unchanged, and the newly branched timeline will continue on it's own path, with it's history being written for the first time.

Since the time traveler originated from an entirely different timeline, anything he does in the new timeline will not effect the history of the original timeline = Paradox solved.

Until I see proof of a timeline branching, I call ******** on that theory. That's like time trying to find a way to fix itself and since when can a mere concept do that?

And with all the various alternate time stuff in Star Trek, why couldn't Spock just find a way home then instead of staying on the new Star Trek timeline?

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Until I see proof of a timeline branching, I call ******** on that theory. That's like time trying to find a way to fix itself and since when can a mere concept do that?

Its a theory that many physicist of the day believe.

As for proof....the only way your going to see that is if "YOU" are the time traveler.

And with all the various alternate time stuff in Star Trek, why couldn't Spock just find a way home then instead of staying on the new Star Trek timeline?

He wanted to stay around and help the Vulcans find a new home.

He said as much.

As for wether he would be able to get home????

I dont see how he could.The tech doesnt exist yet.And while he might be able to created something.....he may not have enough time left to do it.

He is pretty old.

And he had more important work to do.

 

[BrianWilly]

Not exactly a theory, considering the creators of the film say that's specifically what happened...

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Not exactly a theory, considering the creators of the film say that's specifically what happened...

The "theory" I'm talking about is the concept of time travel used in the film.

As for what the writters of the film said..........they are known for BS their way around questions.

I wouldnt necessarily believe they know as much about the theory as they would like people to believe.

 

[Hush]

Yeah cause they only wrote the film, what on earth would the possibly know about it.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Yeah cause they only wrote the film, what on earth would the possibly know about it.

I'm not sure what your trying to say.

But the fact is the writers in question are well known for mis-representing facts about their films and making things up as they go along.

I was a bit surprised the film was as good as it was.

 

[Kurosawa]

I don't think Johns meant a hardass, per se. Just not sympathetic to the Rogues the way Wally was. Rather than believe that people can change, Barry probably would just throw them in jail. Which, of course, means Piper, the Trickster, and Heat Wave never would've had a chance to reform. Of course, Johns turned Heat Wave's reform around and had him rejoin the Rogues anyway, and he wrote the Trickster as morally ambiguous at best, even as a fed. Piper's the only one whose reform has stuck to any reasonable extent.

Well, I do remember Barry spending time with Heat Wave the first time Mick tried to reform in Pre-Crisis times, so I don't feel it would be out of character for him to try and get along with the Rogues. It's not like they are usually depicted with the degrees of insanity and cruelty that a lot of villains are.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

They're very blue-collar villains. They're in it to get paid or for revenge or just because they think living by the rules is for suckers. That's why I love the Rogues--no ambitions of taking over the universe or rewriting history or anything like that, just simple, dishonest crooks trying to get by.

 

[Mystirious]

I don't think Johns meant a hardass, per se. Just not sympathetic to the Rogues the way Wally was. Rather than believe that people can change, Barry probably would just throw them in jail. Which, of course, means Piper, the Trickster, and Heat Wave never would've had a chance to reform. Of course, Johns turned Heat Wave's reform around and had him rejoin the Rogues anyway, and he wrote the Trickster as morally ambiguous at best, even as a fed. Piper's the only one whose reform has stuck to any reasonable extent.

And thank the lord for that, as I would hate to see all of Waid's work on the character undone. I never really bought the "Rogues mind controlled to reform" plotline. It seemed like a rather cheap way to make Heat Wave and Trickster villains again

 

[NightBeetle]

Flash #2 Preview

BRIGHTEST DAY shines its light on the continuing saga of Barry Allen – The Fastest Man Alive! The Flash continues his investigation into the "Dastardly Death of the Rogues" as the case takes a dramatic turn and Barry corners a suspect...and can't believe who it is!

On Sale May 12, 2010

 

[NightBeetle]

 

[Mystirious]

What the hell...

 

[NightBeetle]

Well it's really.........actually I don't Know.

 

[Mystirious]

Well it's really.........actually I don't Know.

Awww, don't be sad! It's glorious silver age madness

Everyone was on the puff back then. It's the only explanation

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

They're very blue-collar villains. They're in it to get paid or for revenge or just because they think living by the rules is for suckers. That's why I love the Rogues--no ambitions of taking over the universe or rewriting history or anything like that, just simple, dishonest crooks trying to get by.

agreed, even though they are out and out criminals, i love the code of ethics they have, the idea of not going after the flashs family, only killing with absolutely necessary etc

though i love the bat-**** insanity of the batman crowd, the flash rogues make an interesting alternatives.

as there ever been a full fledged crossover

 

[Mystirious]

As far as I know, there hasn't been one yet. But that could make for an interesting story

 

[hippie_hunter]

The Flash debuted to #2 on the sales charts in April, with Brightest Day taking the top spot.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

As expected.

 

[Octoberist]

I read The Flash #2, and despite it being being a quick read, it was really fun and full of charm.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Just read #2, Flash built a freakin apartment building. I'm speechless.

 

[Charlie Boy]

Don't even get me started on that...Even if he some how could lift all of the debris from the decrepit hell hole that building once was, why on Earth did it look brand spankin new when he rebuilt it?

That part bugged the hell out of me. Aside from that, I'm enjoying book so far. Barry may not be my Flash, but he's still a decent character, and the book keeps me entertained.

 

[Karelia]

Not to just change the subject, but can anyone recommend me some Flash comic books? Preferably Wally West Flash, but Barry Allen is good too. I haven't read any The Flash comics, so whichever you guys think is the best, recommend it to me please. t:

I love The Flash in the Justice League animated series, is Wally as funny as he is in the show in the comics?

 

[The BatDude]

Not to just change the subject, but can anyone recommend me some Flash comic books? Preferably Wally West Flash, but Barry Allen is good too. I haven't read any The Flash comics, so whichever you guys think is the best, recommend it to me please. t:

I love The Flash in the Justice League animated series, is Wally as funny as he is in the show in the comics?

Here you go, brochacho
comicbookresources' the greatest wally west stories ever told

Also check out Grant Morrison and Mark Millar's run

 

[The BatDude]

It's funny how the third kid says he can't speak but he's got a word balloon that says he does. Shouldn't it have been a thought balloon? Oh well it's the Silver age anything goes