The Official Flash Thread

[Octoberist]

I can't see Pine doing it at all. In fact, I've noticed that he's kinda picky with his roles.

Since he's already attached to Star Trek AND Jack Ryan, I can't see him making the move to The Flash.

 

[Man of Steel]

The marathon continues:

Great work! This is what DC should use. Just change the black circle to white and it's perfect! Just, wondering, what program do you use to make these?

 

[batlovescatDC]

Can't believe I never though of him, but somebody else who'd be perfect for Flash is:

Definitely has the look and the body for it. He's also a great actor. HAS MY VOTE!

 

[Nightwing 52]

So who do you guys think should be the villain(s)? Flash has got such a rich rogue's gallery, my second fave behind Bats. I'd like to see Mirror Master or Captain Cold. Maybe even both. I found the comment of this film being "Three movies in one" interesting.

One thing's for sure, Flash/Zoom must happen in a sequel.

Could be epic.

 

[youkaisama]

So who do you guys think should be the villain(s)? Flash has got such a rich rogue's gallery, my second fave behind Bats. I'd like to see Mirror Master or Captain Cold. Maybe even both. I found the comment of this film being "Three movies in one" interesting.

One thing's for sure, Flash/Zoom must happen in a sequel.

Could be epic.

How about starting the movie with one or two members of the Rogues, but they haven't formed into a group yet. And Flash, as expected, defeats them.
Then, in the second movie, we'll have the villains starting to get more organized and found The Rogues.
Then Zoom in the third movie.

 

[MadVillainy]

1 Rogue for first film
ZOom for second fillm
Rogues for third

 

[Dark Knight]

I would much rather see Chris Pine be cast as Barry Allen/The Flash ahead of the overrated Bradley Cooper thats' for sure.

 

[The Overlord]

Wouldn't they have to make Flash far less powerful for his villains to be a realistic threat to him? It seems like in the comics they often resort to plot induced stupidity on Flash's part to make his villains seem like a threat. Flash in the comics can go faster then the speed of light, punch with the force of white dwarf star, can steal the speed of others and lend it to other people and apparently do a bunch of other things that flies in the face of physics. There was even a comic where the speed force slowed down time because a bullet touched Wally West's neck in a movie theater, so even surprise attacks don't work and yet a guy with boomerangs is a threat to him, that's just a huge contradiction.

I think order to create some dramatic tension, they should tone down Flash's powers to something a little more reasonable, like sub sonic speed or something.

 

[protocida]

They'll probably go for the Justice League Unlimited route: The Flash initially can only run at the speed of sound, vibrate his molecules to phase trough solid objects and create tornados by moving his hands in superspeed. Maybe charge objects with kinetic energy in order to make them explode. Then, when he goes against Zoom, who is much more powerful and with a much wider array of superspeed tricks than he, the finally manages to break the speed of light and access the Speed Force.

And, judging by Greg Berlanti's comment that this movie will he "Part Thriller", I'm guessing we'll see a CSI-esque investigation movie in which both the policeman and the criminal have superpowers. The most fitting villains for this kind of approach would be Captain Cold, Mirror Master, Weather Wizard, Heat Wave and/or Murmur.

 

[Chris B]

I'd try to get a few of the Rogues in there, but I'm just not sure how to pull it off. Especially if this ends up as an origin film.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Make it Captain Cold.

 

[TheWatcher]

1st movie-Captain Cold and Weather Wizard.
2nd movie-Zoom.

 

[SantoAnderson]

I've been using Maya. I need to find some time to put more work into him. I'm storyboarding an animation with this model and that's taking up most of my time.

 

[Octoberist]

Wouldn't they have to make Flash far less powerful for his villains to be a realistic threat to him? It seems like in the comics they often resort to plot induced stupidity on Flash's part to make his villains seem like a threat. Flash in the comics can go faster then the speed of light, punch with the force of white dwarf star, can steal the speed of others and lend it to other people and apparently do a bunch of other things that flies in the face of physics. There was even a comic where the speed force slowed down time because a bullet touched Wally West's neck in a movie theater, so even surprise attacks don't work and yet a guy with boomerangs is a threat to him, that's just a huge contradiction.

I think order to create some dramatic tension, they should tone down Flash's powers to something a little more reasonable, like sub sonic speed or something.

I agree. Because if they just went one one Rogue, The Flash is such a powerful character. They may have to downplay his powers a bit.

 

[youkaisama]

They'll probably go for the Justice League Unlimited route: The Flash initially can only run at the speed of sound, vibrate his molecules to phase trough solid objects and create tornados by moving his hands in superspeed. Maybe charge objects with kinetic energy in order to make them explode. Then, when he goes against Zoom, who is much more powerful and with a much wider array of superspeed tricks than he, the finally manages to break the speed of light and access the Speed Force.

And, judging by Greg Berlanti's comment that this movie will he "Part Thriller", I'm guessing we'll see a CSI-esque investigation movie in which both the policeman and the criminal have superpowers. The most fitting villains for this kind of approach would be Captain Cold, Mirror Master, Weather Wizard, Heat Wave and/or Murmur.

Agreed. They have to limit Flash's power.
Well, considering that Flash just recieved his powers in the first movie, him not having total control of it yet is reasonable.

 

[dark_knight08]

This is an amazing concept for The Flash.

 

[batlovescatDC]

Murmur would be the best bet as far as the CSI-esque villain goes but at the same time, Barry wouldn't need to use his powers AT ALL against Murmur. I think they should go with Murmur & The Shade. Both very dark villains so it goes along with what Berlanti has been saying.

Plus the constructs and other things that Shade can do are limitless... Flash would definitely have to get used to every bit of his powers to go up against Shade.

 

[The Guard]

Wouldn't they have to make Flash far less powerful for his villains to be a realistic threat to him?

Hence Professor Zoom.

The Rogues, or any villain, can threaten innocent people, and I would imagine that would be threat enough for a man like The Flash.

 

[The Overlord]

Hence Professor Zoom.

The Rogues, or any villain, can threaten innocent people, and I would imagine that would be threat enough for a man like The Flash.

If you use Zoom in the first movie, the most powerful villain he has, its hard to build up tension for the second film.

And if Flash is faster then the speed of light it would be almost impossible for most the rogues to threatening civilians, because Flash being that fast, the rogues would be statues compared to him. If Captain Boomerang is holding a razor sharp boomerang to someone's neck, Flash could punch Boomer a thousand times in less then a fraction of a second, before Boomer could even think of moving his arm.

Do you know how fast the speed of light is? Its pretty well impossible to counter someone who can go that fast.

 

[HighFivingMF]

If you use Zoom in the first movie, the most powerful villain he has, its hard to build up tension for the second film.

And if Flash is faster then the speed of light it would be almost impossible for most the rogues to threatening civilians, because Flash being that fast, the rogues would be statues compared to him. If Captain Boomerang is holding a razor sharp boomerang to someone's neck, Flash could punch Boomer a thousand times in less then a fraction of a second, before Boomer could even think of moving his arm.

Do you know how fast the speed of light is? Its pretty well impossible to counter someone who can go that fast.

Keep him from running that fast until he fights Zoom. Have him get faster as the movies progress.

 

[The Guard]

If you use Zoom in the first movie, the most powerful villain he has, its hard to build up tension for the second film.

Fair enough, but why must that be the case?

And if Flash is faster then the speed of light it would be almost impossible for most the rogues to threatening civilians, because Flash being that fast, the rogues would be statues compared to him. If Captain Boomerang is holding a razor sharp boomerang to someone's neck, Flash could punch Boomer a thousand times in less then a fraction of a second, before Boomer could even think of moving his arm.

Nevermind that when he first becomes The Flash, he probably shouldn't know the full potential of his speed...if this is the case, then the Rogues wouldn't be threats at all. Why use any classic Flash villains? Why have any villain fight The Flash?

Hell, why even have Flash do anything with villains since no one would be a threat?

I'm fairly certain an intelligent writer would be able to figure out what to with Captain Cold, The Mirror Master, The Weather Wizard, etc, in a manner that wouldn't make them complete pushovers. For one thing, they would probably be able to commit booku crimes if Flash didn't know what they were doing...since he's not telepathic. I can see Mirror Master and The Weather Wizard being able to give him a run for his money, especially if he's a rookie.

Do you know how fast the speed of light is? Its pretty well impossible to counter someone who can go that fast.

It's a movie. What happens is what the writers say happens, and what the characters do. How does Flash ever face any threats in the comics? It's also possible to add "the faster you go, the less time you have" to the character, which is a nice angle the comics have used before.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I would much rather see Chris Pine be cast as Barry Allen/The Flash ahead of the overrated Bradley Cooper thats' for sure.

Agreed. I watched him in the A-Team (which I hated BTW) and found him to be a completely unconvincing action hero. He also isn't that good of an actor. I don't want him anywhere near an action flick that I'm interested in. I liked him on Alias but I've just come to realize that he is a very limited actor. I am so glad that he wasn't cast as GL.

I understand why every studio would want Pine but I just think that this is studio talk. He is too busy to do it.

 

[Sawyer]

I just really want this to progress. I dont want it to be one of those things that we talk about and talk about and talk about.... and then five years down the line, we've still got nothing.

 

[The Overlord]

Fair enough, but why must that be the case?

Because the movies should build up tensions and suspense by raising the stakes from movie to movie. If they start with the most powerful villain in the first movie, how are they supposed to the raise the stakes for the second film?

Nevermind that when he first becomes The Flash, he probably shouldn't know the full potential of his speed...if this is the case, then the Rogues wouldn't be threats at all. Why use any classic Flash villains? Why have any villain fight The Flash?

Hell, why even have Flash do anything with villains since no one would be a threat?

I'm fairly certain an intelligent writer would be able to figure out what to with Captain Cold, The Mirror Master, The Weather Wizard, etc, in a manner that wouldn't make them complete pushovers. For one thing, they would probably be able to commit booku crimes if Flash didn't know what they were doing...since he's not telepathic. I can see Mirror Master and The Weather Wizard being able to give him a run for his money, especially if he's a rookie.

That's why I'm saying they should make him less powerful, because that would make his villains more of a believable threat.

If Flash only went at sub sonic speed, its more believable someone could defeat him, compared to Flash running at the speed of light and almost no one having a realistic chance of beating him.

It's a movie. What happens is what the writers say happens, and what the characters do. How does Flash ever face any threats in the comics? It's also possible to add "the faster you go, the less time you have" to the character, which is a nice angle the comics have used before.

They are often threats because Flash suffers from plot induced stupidity. If you went at thew speed of light, you would have all the time in the world, because your enemies would be statues. It seems like some people don't understand how fast the speed of light is.

Keep him from running that fast until he fights Zoom. Have him get faster as the movies progress.

Run faster then the speed of light? How are villains besides Zoom supposed to counter someone who runs faster then the speed of light?

Do you how fast the speed of light is?

 

[The Guard]

Allow me to point out the obvious.

CAPTAIN COLD
Hi person Flash knows, I'm Captain Cold. Since Flash doesn't know about me, I'm going to go ahead and kill you now.

(Captain Cold kills the person).

CAPTAIN COLD
Now I'm off to kill other people without Flash knowing about it. I hope he's a good enough detective to catch me.

(Captain Cold goes off to kill other people)

Bam, legitimate threat.

Again, good writers don't have to use "plot stupidity" to make these characters into threats that affect Barry Allen.

If there are, say, four Rogues wreaking havoc somewhere, Barry may be able to get to them right away if he knows about them, but he's not PSYCHIC. The Rogues could create any number of disasters and deadly situations that place both The Flash and people he cares about in peril.

And...if they start with the most powerful villain in the first film, then they can raise the stakes by presenting an even more powerful villain, or making the first villain used even MORE powerful and deadly. How hard is that to figure out? Just because Thawne has power doesn't mean he knows how to use it to its full potential right off the bat. Ditto Barry Allen.

You seem to be under the impression that The Flash must always run faster than the speed of light. That is not the case at all. Running at the speed of light all the time isn't going to make for a very compelling story. He obviously can't be going full tilt the entire time.

It's as simple as writers not having him run at the speed of light all the time, or having him learn that this is what he can do if he really truly has to. There should be some checks and balances to it, though. Running that fast should cost him time.