The Official Flash Thread

[Kevin Smith]

Even if your a Barry fan you don't have to hate Wally. I am a big fan of both characters I just prefer Wally a little more.

Yeah, me too, man. I don't hate Wally either. If I can't have Barry then believe me, Wally is my guy. Barry is just my favorite Flash. Wally is my second fave. I just get pissed off when people who don't know jack about him start attacking him.

 

[Octoberist]

and usually with the attacks on Barry aren't very fair.

 

[MadVillainy]

^^^

 

[Flash Facts]

Duh. You know what I meant. Barry is more of a person than he is a superhero, unlike Wally West.

I disagree. Wally is Wally in and out of costume. This is supposed to be one of the aspects that make him so personable and why he has commonly been portrayed as the "blue collar" hero.

Ahh. I see what you're saying, if not for the death of his mom he would not have went into forensics and in turn would not have been in the lab the night of the accident which gave him super speed.

More so than just being the reason he was standing where he was standing it shaped his personality.

Although not what I would have done though, soon, I actually liked this development and it makes sense, I am fine with it as long as it doesn't screw with his characterization (it hasn't yet and I don't think it will) as an optimistic, easy going guy.

I don't really see how you can make such a statement as so far he has not been like that at all. As you yourself have pointed out, he is the Black Flash and he has been acting differently since his return. If he reverts back after Rebirth than that statement could be valid but IMO that wouldn't make much sense. Also IIRC Johns has said before that that will not happen. All the "Barry never wants to be late again" ect

 

[Webhead2006]

This is the problem for this dc character or heck even marvel characters if there has been multiple people as said character, who is the right one or the one that deserves to be the one to be used on the big screen.

 

[Timstuff]

Dealing with a superhero who has a legacy can be a bit of a pain as this thread has demonstrated, since there's room for disagreement about which character best represents the hero. It's a problem that to my knowledge Marvel doesn't really see much of (outside of stuff like "which X-Men team is the ultimate one?"), but it's very much an issue within DC fandom, particularly with The Flash.

And that is why I think the best route to go is a passing of the torch story, kind of like Mask of Zorro. There are a lot of different ways they could approach it too, which is part of why I think there's so much potential to be had.

Option 1: Prologue features Barry as the vintage Flash with a young Wally as Kid Flash. Wally has to hang up his Kid Flash tights and live a "normal life." In act one, we jump ahead to "modern times," where a solo Barry Allen flash comes across a super villain plot. The villain kills Barry, and when Wally learns of his uncle's death, he dons the costume to pick up Barry's trail and beat the bad guy.

Option 2: Same as above, except that the reason Wally stops being Kid Flash is because Barry dies while stopping a supervillain, and Wally hangs up his costume because he doesn't think he can go it alone. Years later, the world needs The Flash again, and he resolves to put on his uncle's costume and give the people the hero they need.

Option 3: Barry dies while Wally is a teenage "kid flash," and we get to see the awkward transition between being a teen sidekick and a full fledged superhero. We get to see Wally putting on the boots before he's even sure he's big enough for them, while dealing with the loss of his mentor.

These are just a few examples. There's a lot of places they could go, but I'd wager that the potential for this kind of story is far more interesting than a typical origin story. All we really need to know is that they were both involved in a laboratory accident that gave them speed powers, possibly through a flashback (heck, they could even try to make things more believable by having them get their powers at the same time from the same accident). The real origin story though would be about Wally taking up the mantle of a hero that came before him, and coming into his own as the hero of a new generation. They could even have some humor about fanboyism, hehehe.

 

[MadVillainy]

Dealing with a superhero who has a legacy can be a bit of a pain as this thread has demonstrated, since there's room for disagreement about which character best represents the hero. It's a problem that to my knowledge Marvel doesn't really see much of (outside of stuff like "which X-Men team is the ultimate one?"), but it's very much an issue within DC fandom, particularly with The Flash.

And that is why I think the best route to go is a passing of the torch story, kind of like Mask of Zorro. There are a lot of different ways they could approach it too, which is part of why I think there's so much potential to be had.

Option 1: Prologue features Barry as the vintage Flash with a young Wally as Kid Flash. Wally has to hang up his Kid Flash tights and live a "normal life." In act one, we jump ahead to "modern times," where a solo Barry Allen flash comes across a super villain plot. The villain kills Barry, and when Wally learns of his uncle's death, he dons the costume to pick up Barry's trail and beat the bad guy.

BOOM! Thats a good idea....thats how I would like the movie

but who would the villain be. I think The Rogues shouldnt be in the first film because 3 villains even if they move as one might be difficult,
Zoom works better if he's set up as Hunter Zolomon and then turns into Zoom in the next film
Gorilla Grodd might be too corny

 

[flash13]

With Travis Sculdt as Barry and Dustin Milligan as Wally!

 

[MadVillainy]

With Peter Krause as Barry and Scott Porter as Wally

 

[flash13]

Scott Porter as older Wally

 

[MadVillainy]

Before the main titles Barry (Peter Krause) should sacrificing himself to stop some villain
After the credits it should start with Wally (Scott Porter), the former Kid Flash picking up the Flash suit from Jay Garrick.

The story pans out from there Wally tires to find out who killed Barry and stop him

 

[Timstuff]

but who would the villain be. I think The Rogues shouldnt be in the first film because 3 villains even if they move as one might be difficult,
Zoom works better if he's set up as Hunter Zolomon and then turns into Zoom in the next film
Gorilla Grodd might be too corny

I think I'd either go with Zoom or Weather Wizard. I'd want them to change Zoom's look a bit though, simply because I've always felt like his costume design was very uninspired.

BTW, I like Scott Porter as Wally.

 

[MadVillainy]

Who should play Linda Park
This question came up a couple times and I cant think to come up with a good actress

 

[Timstuff]

Maybe Grace Park from Battlestar Galactica?

 

[protocida]

The Flash - Characters:

Barry Allen/The Flash.
Iris West.
Wally West.
Andy Jackson.
Comissioner John Wolfe.
Dr. Trevor McGuee.
Leonard Snart/Captain Cold.
Sam Scudder/Mirror Master.​

 

[MadVillainy]

Maybe Grace Park from Battlestar Galactica?

nvr seen her act, but she look decent
The question is tho...is there any hot Korean American actresses who can actually act?

 

[Timstuff]

She's good on BSG.

 

[flash13]

I like Grace Park

 

[The Sarge]

Dealing with a superhero who has a legacy can be a bit of a pain as this thread has demonstrated, since there's room for disagreement about which character best represents the hero. It's a problem that to my knowledge Marvel doesn't really see much of (outside of stuff like "which X-Men team is the ultimate one?"), but it's very much an issue within DC fandom, particularly with The Flash.

And that is why I think the best route to go is a passing of the torch story, kind of like Mask of Zorro. There are a lot of different ways they could approach it too, which is part of why I think there's so much potential to be had.

Option 1: Prologue features Barry as the vintage Flash with a young Wally as Kid Flash. Wally has to hang up his Kid Flash tights and live a "normal life." In act one, we jump ahead to "modern times," where a solo Barry Allen flash comes across a super villain plot. The villain kills Barry, and when Wally learns of his uncle's death, he dons the costume to pick up Barry's trail and beat the bad guy.

Option 2: Same as above, except that the reason Wally stops being Kid Flash is because Barry dies while stopping a supervillain, and Wally hangs up his costume because he doesn't think he can go it alone. Years later, the world needs The Flash again, and he resolves to put on his uncle's costume and give the people the hero they need.

Option 3: Barry dies while Wally is a teenage "kid flash," and we get to see the awkward transition between being a teen sidekick and a full fledged superhero. We get to see Wally putting on the boots before he's even sure he's big enough for them, while dealing with the loss of his mentor.

These are just a few examples. There's a lot of places they could go, but I'd wager that the potential for this kind of story is far more interesting than a typical origin story. All we really need to know is that they were both involved in a laboratory accident that gave them speed powers, possibly through a flashback (heck, they could even try to make things more believable by having them get their powers at the same time from the same accident). The real origin story though would be about Wally taking up the mantle of a hero that came before him, and coming into his own as the hero of a new generation. They could even have some humor about fanboyism, hehehe.

I would just have Barry as the flash in the film. If sequels start to get made, introduce Wally. As usual the actor playing the character can only go for so many films before getting tired and being replaced. When the first actor thinks he's done, kill him off, have the next actor play wally in further sequels.
Yes, there's a chance the franchise won't be successful enough for that to happen, but truthfully, representing the legacy isn't the most important thing. Most forms of flash in television seemed to have ignored it altogether. However, I think my way would help even ease the uncomfortable transition of actors that will occur anyway.

 

[Timstuff]

If they're going to do a Flash movie, they should give it all they've got. He's not as big of an industry staple as the likes of Batman, and if Wally is the character most people want to see, then they should make sure he's represented in the first movie. As I pointed out, doing a passing of the torch story featuring Wally would really set this apart from all the other superhero origin flicks out there. I think people would take a lot more interest in a movie about a sidekick becoming a superhero than they would about the typical "scientist has accident in lab, gets powers, decides to become superhero, designs costume" story that we've seen oh-so-many times already. If the goal is just to please Barry Allen fans without doing much to set up a franchise, then doing a generic origin film without the most popular version of the hero would be the way to do it.

 

[Webhead2006]

Yea thats the issue how do we balance barry fans and wally fans and do you want to get into the whole legacy thing in the first film or leave it for sequels.

 

[protocida]

How about Captain Cold and Mirror Master as the villains. I'd have them as two criminal parters who rob advanced equipment from S.T.A.R. Labs and wreak havoc on Central City, until the Flash emerges.

 

[MadVillainy]

Yea thats the issue how do we balance barry fans and wally fans and do you want to get into the whole legacy thing in the first film or leave it for sequels.

That is a hard question.

I mean honestly either way it goes fans of the Flash will go see it. If you dont see a Flash movie because Barry is in it, or you dont see it becase Wally is in it then I think that you're not a true fan. I dont hate (old) Barry Allen I just like to make fun of him and watch fanboys get mad.

Personally I think sidekicks (save for a few) would be corny in a film. I say you just choose who fans want.

But that all depends on the writer and maybe the studio..

About the writer I am very nervous about them picking this no name. Granted first time writers turn out great but I mean this guy is UNKNOWN he doesnt even have interviews that I can find. Also I havent heard about him or his flash script since he was announced as writer

 

[Webhead2006]

Yea for me since i dont read flash comics and only know of flash from animation/and the 90s live action tv show. So it doesnt really matter to me who it is, i would though perfer to start with barry it just makes things easier in my mind. But yea its all up to the writer, and who knows if the guy who is attached to the project now will end up deliver a script wb likes, and someone else could get onboard the project easy. Or if its liked by wb maybe they can have some big name flash writers come on back to polish things up to make sure they are not screwing things around.

Then another thing that could happen which could in turn piss off fans is if they mergered barry/wally traits together and make a composite character for the film.

 

[MadVillainy]

Yea for me since i dont read flash comics and only know of flash from animation/and the 90s live action tv show. So it doesnt really matter to me who it is, i would though perfer to start with barry it just makes things easier in my mind. But yea its all up to the writer, and who knows if the guy who is attached to the project now will end up deliver a script wb likes, and someone else could get onboard the project easy. Or if its liked by wb maybe they can have some big name flash writers come on back to polish things up to make sure they are not screwing things around.

Then another thing that could happen which could in turn piss off fans is if they mergered barry/wally traits together and make a composite character for the film.

Theyve pretty much always done that.

DCAU= His name was Wally he looked like Wally had alot of Wally's extra powers and characteristics but he had Barry Allen's job, homecity, and was nvr Kid Flash

90s TV Show= His name was Barry Allen his profession as a forensic scientist, and his love interest Iris were Barry's. But he looked more like Wally West along with having Wally's huge appetite

JLA Live Action = Barry by name, Wally by personality

of course there was the JL: New Frontier version who was straight up Barry

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Honestly if they were going to choose one I wish they would make it like the DCAU version but a little more serious