The Official Flash Thread

[Timstuff]

I'm not advocating that they only have Barry in the movie for 5 minutes just to kill him off. I think that they should have a substantial opening action scene with both him and Wally as a team, and then show him on his own during the first act. If they could do it the way I wanted, Barry wouldn't actually die until at least 20 minutes into the film, at the end of Act 1. Act 2 would be Wally deciding to put on the suit and emerging as "the new Flash," and act 3 would be him being tested and being triumphant in his new position as a full-time hero. That's still a whole first act of Barry plus flashbacks, which should provide ample time to show who he is.

I will admit though, the primary reason why I don't like the idea of doing a "Barry trilogy" followed by a "Wally trilogy" is because it would probably be at least 12 years from now before Wally gets his chance in the lime light, and IMO that's too long of a wait.

 

[protocida]

Barry should have at least ONE movie.

 

[Webhead2006]

Yea i know you dont need to do triliogies for both i would be fine with one full movie of barry, include wally in it and have him get his speed powers too probably say he was their with barry, but it took more time for the powers to manifest in wally then it did for barry. Then we start off the second film barry gets killed in the first act then wally gets the rest of film 2 and other films.

I do hope if flash does get off the ground finally and gets a film they do the characters to justice, develop them well, and dont chicken out and just merge the characters together to try and please both fan bases.

 

[cerealkiller182]

You people act like multiple movies are a given. they arnt. Id rather see the most creative use of superheroes come first than chancing all this sequel mumbo jumbo. How many times do we have to listen to filmmakers say "now the exposition is told we can get right to the action in the sequel." the superhero subgenre isnt that special that we need play by plays for every character

 

[Timstuff]

You people act like multiple movies are a given. they arnt. Id rather see the most creative use of superheroes come first than chancing all this sequel mumbo jumbo. How many times do we have to listen to filmmakers say "now the exposition is told we can get right to the action in the sequel." the superhero subgenre isnt that special that we need play by plays for every character

Agreed.

 

[cerealkiller182]

I want to clear up that this isnt a DIRECT bias towards Barry. A good looking Barry movie Id still be interested. But Im a film fan first and a comic fan second, and my love for Wally stems from his potential as a film franchise (for the most part). And as a comic fan I prefer progression over regression. Im not happy about Steve Rogers returning either.

 

[protocida]

No one can replace the original.

 

[Timstuff]

Replacing Steve Rogers as Cap meant bringing Bucky back from the dead, which IMO was a worse regression than bringing Cap himself back from the dead. There used to be a phrase "There are only three people you don't bring back to life in comics: Jason Todd, Bucky, and Uncle Ben." And guess what? The only one of those characters who hasn't been (truly) resurrected was Uncle Ben.

Everyone called "marketing stunt" on Cap dying when it happened, so it didn't even carry much weight. Like, when Superman happened, it was the same thing-- everyone knew that they weren't going to keep him dead forever, because he was too important of a character. With Barry on the other hand, his death DID carry weight because for roughly 2 decades DC actually stayed with it. Unfortunately, not even Barry Allen could avoid the jaws of the "no-one stays dead" trope, it would seem.

 

[protocida]

Barry's return is one of the ones that made more sense.

 

[solidsnake86]

I think Barry's return in comics has to do with the film. WB probably wanted to tell a flash story that was simpler than explaining a flash legacy and doing an origin with barry is the simplest way to avoid all that. Add on top the CSI angle of barry and he automatically become more appealing then wally does to WB. Don't get me wrong wally would have been cool and I think had the justice league film come out it would have been the best way to do his character by killing barry off in that one.

 

[Green Ghost]

Geoff Johns talks a little about the movie:

Can you share any details about the Flash movie you’re writing for Warner Bros.?

I can’t really get into the movies too much. I’m sure we’ll be getting into more of that later as the information rolls out but for now, a lot of the elements I’ll be playing with moving forward, will be reflected in all the work I do there.

Because I have to ask, does the movie feature Barry or Wally? Or both?

All I can say is that you know what I’ve done. The “Smallville” episode with the Legion last season gave you a tiny taste of the kinds of elements I’ll bring in to a live action project. And I’m obviously bringing everything I can from the Flash mythos into what I’m working on with the film. It’s definitely Flash. Everything you love about Flash and everything that is vital to Flash. It’s a culmination of everything that I’ve worked on in Flash and the stuff that I’m about to work on with the Flash.

One more question on the movie before I let you go. Does the Flash movie you’re working on exist in the same universe as the Martin Campbell-directed Green Lantern movie with Ryan Reynolds?

Again, unfortunately, I can’t say too much just yet, but if you’re a DC fan, it’s all very, very positive. All the stuff that Warner Bros. is doing, that Jeff Robinoff is leading, it’s all for DC fans. They’re going to be so happy. Paul Levitz and Gregory Novak are really working with everybody and everything that DC is doing is trying to take it to the next level and I think that’s where it’s going.

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[Timstuff]

I see Johns was very ambiguous about the whole Wally or Barry thing. I'm guessing that either both characters will be in it, or Warners simply has not decided / agreed about what they want to do yet.

 

[Dude101]

I want Barry Allen.

 

[SuperFerret]

No one can replace the original.

Jay Garrick FTW!



Also, I can see a Wally/Barry hybrid being used in the film to simplify things, ala JL/JLU.

 

[protocida]

Hope not.

 

[Dude101]

Scott Porter as Barry Allen or Neil Patrick Harris as Barry Allen.

 

[Dude101]

That would be ideal. That could work.

 

[protocida]

Scott Porter as Barry Allen, please.

 

[SuperFerret]

Hope not.

I think from a movie standpoint, it'd be the best idea. Take most of Wally's everyman personality and add Barry's brains and forensic background.

 

[protocida]

I prefer my Barry Barry and my Wally Wally.

 

[Flash Facts]

I think from a movie standpoint, it'd be the best idea. Take most of Wally's everyman personality and add Barry's brains and forensic background.

All of the flashes are smart. Both Barry and Jay are scientist, Wally was getting his doctorate in physics, and Bart retains everything he reads.

 

[SuperFerret]

All of the flashes are smart. Both Barry and Jay are scientist, Wally was getting his doctorate in physics, and Bart retains everything he reads.

Never said anything about Wally being dumb (though I didn't know he was getting a doctorate), but from what I've read, it seemed as if most of the "Flash Facts" he used came from Barry's lessons.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see the Flash legacy on screen, but it might be easier to manage if they circumvented it. I prefer Barry for the film, but I'd accept a Barry/Wally hybrid.

 

[protocida]

Iris West?

 

[Kevin Smith]

I prefer my Barry Barry and my Wally Wally.

Absolutely. Barry Allen FTW! I hope it's Barry. I'm pretty sure Geoff will do Barry. I love his take on him in Blackest Night, which is after Rebirth, and dammit, I TOLD you all that Barry would be back!

 

[protocida]

Geoff's setting for The Flash:

“We’re caught up in a world that’s obsessed with speed these days. Texting, faster downloading… We’re always looking for ways to speed things up, it can be hard to slow ourselves down.”