The Official Flash Thread

[Karelia]

I'm just happy their is still talk about a Flash movie He was one of my favorite since I was a little kid. (I always thought he looked cool) I'd love the movie to be based around Wally West, but it would make a little more sense to start with Barry Allen, then introduce Wally later.

If we don't see Wally at all, I'd be disappointed, but that's just because I think Wally is a lot cooler. (Granted I've only watched JLU, but I'm going to pick up some Flash graphic novels when I get the chance.)

 

[Octoberist]

sorry pet peeve of mine: It's "they're" not "their" (which is possessive)

You need to read Geoff Johns' new Flash series with Barry. It's awesome.

 

[NotFadeAway]

man, so are you gonna be unhappy with Barry as Flash till the end of time? are you that absolute about it?

No, I'm actually not that upset by it anymore. I'm curious as to where it will end up going actually. I just like to harp.

What do you want from, Wally and Superman are my favorite comic book characters? Because of this, I'll always approach The Flash with a Wally first mentality.

 

[NotFadeAway]

man, so are you gonna be unhappy with Barry as Flash till the end of time? are you that absolute about it?

No, I'm actually not that upset by it anymore. I'm curious as to where it will end up going actually. I just like to harp.

What do you want from, Wally and Superman are my favorite comic book characters? Because of this, I'll always approach The Flash with a Wally first mentality.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

I had to go read up on the Flash. Barry Allen died and Kid Flash took over? (I always thought the idea of Kid Flash was silly)

I guess he's back now. Good. Barry Allen is Flash to me.

 

[NotFadeAway]

Thank you.

And while I'm here, I won't to share something. As much as I complain about Geoff Johns and Rebirth, it has given me an idea for what should be either the final film in a Flash franchise or close to it.

Keeping in mind that I want Wally as the Flash and that my Flash ideas are elseworlds material thats drawn from all the comic material(like Rebirth) that I take and mold into my own, I would eventually bring back Barry Allen and use the Black Flash. But here, the Black Flash would be Barry Allen. The black Flash would represent the evil part of the speedforce, death itself and would bind with Allen and bring him to back to life. It would be Barry Allen, but on autopilot and being influenced by the Black Flash. It would be like, if Barry Allen were evil, this is how he would be, and because death has him, he is evil. This would set up a great Wally/Evil Barry battle and put the icing on the cake of Wally letting go of Barry and his shadow once and for all while laying Allen to rest in the process.

After thinking about it, I think this would be a good way to end a Flash franchise, the whole evil zombie speedforce darkness puppet master Barry vs. Wally. As I mention a few days back, my Flash idea's are very elseworld, I'm aware of that. I try to take as much as I can from the comic book source material and then attempt to make it my own story, with storylines pertaining to the Flash characters being switched, the combined Rival/Zoloman combination, borrowing from another DC characters universe, etc. And hear we go, in no particular order.....

1) The Wally vs.Barry evil fight wouldn't be an ordinary Flash affair. It would actually have both Wally and Barry fighting each other without powers. I'm not sure how I would get there yet, but it would involve the speedforce being temporarily shut down, costing them there powers.

2) The Martian sabotage of evolution. I can already see movie fans groaning at the idea of Wally getting powers in the same manner Barry did. I would work in that some humans have the meta-human gene inside them but it needed to be triggered. This would be the case with Barry and Wally, thats were fate would come in.

3) I hate Bart Allen, but at some point I'd bring him in. Why? Because Wally West would die at the end in a heroic manner like Barry and his comic book death. Barry would be layed to rest as well, so that would leave Bart Allen as the Flash franchise concluded.

 

[Octoberist]

No, I'm actually not that upset by it anymore. I'm curious as to where it will end up going actually. I just like to harp.

What do you want from, Wally and Superman are my favorite comic book characters? Because of this, I'll always approach The Flash with a Wally first mentality.

I'm sure that there was tons of people who got p*ssed off when Barry died back in '85, thus passing the torch to Wally. Then those fans get old, while the Wally fans flourished. Then it's back to Barry again.

It's very circular when it comes with geekdom. Even when Batman got darker in the 80s, people were upset too.

 

[Timstuff]

Me and my brother were briefly discussing a possible alternate origin for where Barry, Wally and Zoom get their speed from. Basically, Barry Allen gets called to a crime scene at a laboratory where they are running particle acceleration tests. Apparently, someone broke in, killed the security guard, and activated the accelerator. For some reason (which we hadn't quite gotten around to), Barry has Wally with him. Wally is snooping around the accellerator, when suddenly it becomes active (which later, we'd discover was the result of some kind of foul play). Barry tries to save Wally, but they both end up trapped inside the ring, and it goes active, and Barry and Wally have every molecule in their bodies accelerated past the speed of light before the lab explodes.

Later, Barry wakes up in a hospital, alone. The whole place is silent, and the intercom doesn't work. He gets out of bed and walks outside his room, and sees that everyone is standing perfectly still. Confused, he walks outside, to the street, and suddenly, everything starts moving really fast for a brief moment, and then goes back to regular speed. Barry eventually figures out that his body is now capable of moving at extreme speed, and later it would be revealed that Wally has speed as well.

The two things we hadn't figured out were 1) why Wally would be at the lab and 2) whether Zoom would have been the murderer and intentionally tried to accelerate himself, or if he was a victim of someone else who was shoved in to be disposed of. One possible explanation for Wally being in the lab is that if he's older, he may have been there on a summer internship at college. It might seem a bit fatalistic that Barry and Wally just happened to be in the lab at the same time, and just happened to end up in the particle accelerator when it gets turned on, but it's certainly no more ridiculous than them both being involved in the exact same accident scenario on two seperate occasions, lol. If all else fails, they can just say the speed force chose them.

 

[NotFadeAway]

I'm sure that there was tons of people who got p*ssed off when Barry died back in '85, thus passing the torch to Wally. Then those fans get old, while the Wally fans flourished. Then it's back to Barry again.

It's very circular when it comes with geekdom. Even when Batman got darker in the 80s, people were upset too.

Oh yes, I agree with this.

I think what upset me wasn't so much that Barry was being brought back. I like Barry Allen as a character, I do. It was that Wally was tossed aside like garbage. IMO, Wally is one the most well developed characters in the DCU, so it just seemed wrong.

Honestly, I'd rather they just kill off Wally than keep him around in some different costume and not as the actual Flash. Atleast Barry got to die a heroic death. I'd settle for that before I had Wally play second fiddle.

 

[NotFadeAway]

I'm sure that there was tons of people who got p*ssed off when Barry died back in '85, thus passing the torch to Wally. Then those fans get old, while the Wally fans flourished. Then it's back to Barry again.

It's very circular when it comes with geekdom. Even when Batman got darker in the 80s, people were upset too.

Oh yes, I agree with this.

I think what upset wasn't so much that Barry was being brought back. I like Barry Allen as a character, I do. It was that Wally was tossed aside like garbage. IMO, Wally is one the most well developed characters in the DCU, so it just seemed wrong.

Honestly, I'd rather they just kill off Wally than keep him around in some different costume and not as the actual Flash. Atleast Barry got to die a heroic death. I'd settle for that before I had Wally play second fiddle.

 

[Octoberist]

i agree that i questioned how they handled Wally. I thought it was a much smoother process with Green Lantern, when Hal came back.

But I guess with The Flash, it was such a mess that 'Rebirth' was gonna be convoluted no matter what. I don't know. If 'Rebirth' was a stronger book, I think people would have been on board last year.

But it's now up to The Flash series with Barry to repair some of the 'damages', and smooth it out a bit.

 

[Webhead2006]

timstuff that sounds like an interesting change to origin. Could work.

 

[Octoberist]

The studio has hired Greg Berlanti, Michael Green and Marc Guggenheim, all of whom worked on the “Lantern” screenplay, to write a treatment for the second installment.
The trio has also been tapped to pen the treatment for the silver-screen incarnation of “The Flash.”

Under the deal, they would then go on to write the screenplay for one of the two projects, though which one has not been determined. With new Batman and Superman films in the writing stages and “Lantern” filming, the team thought “Flash” was the next logical hero to tackle.

Development on a feature version of the scarlet speedster has gone through several false starts over the years, but the character is close to Johns’ heart. The writer recently brought back to prominence one version of the character not seen since the mid-1980s and is working on a relaunch of the series.

The “Flash” film will take inspiration from Johns’ recent work and will feature the Barry Allen incarnation of the character. (In comics lore, several names have wielded the Flash mantle, though Allen, created in 1956, remains by far the most popular.)

Poor poor Dan Mazau!

http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2010/...-for-green-lantern-2-and-flash-exclusive.html

 

[flash13]

Barry Allen is not the most popular he and Wally are about even....

 

[batman44]

Yes!!

 

[MadVillainy]

I'm glad that there is momentum on this project....but I'm still not understanding why WB/DC uses the same teams for movie project. FIrst the BB team working on new Superman, now GL team working on FLash. Im not saying the movies will be bad because of this, but I wish they would look at other talents

And does this mean Mazeau is done?

Also I find it funny that they say Allen is the most popular then use a pic of Wally in the article

 

[MadVillainy]

I might be biased here, but I think my Eggold choice is one of those off the wall casting choices that are hit or miss. Sometimes it works out for the best, ala Ledger/Joker, and other times it fails miserably. I think this would work, obviously lol.

So, I'm curious. Which choices did you like?

I liked your Barry, Jay, and Linda choices

 

[Octoberist]

While I feel bad for Mazeau, at least he got paid right? But when you're the new guy it's hard. That's why as a writer, it's a bit easier if you work in groups ala two writers working together.

 

[Octoberist]

I can't wait till Geoff Johns tweets about this.

 

[Webhead2006]

just saw the news, very cool news. Glad to see wb is very happy so far with gl, and i hope its a huge sucess for them and for us fans to get a sequel. Also nice to hear it really does look like flash is next up, and it does look like as many thought it will be barry.

As for dan/johns script who knows maybe the writers will use it or elements from it. Then also who knows if they will be the last ones to write the script. Look what happened with green latern. They wrote some drafts, then campbell comes in, and then who is it goldberg or something who has the credit for last draft?

 

[Octoberist]

keep in mind that Geoff is still involved as a producer for The Flash.

 

[batlovescatDC]

With Barry being announced as The Flash... I'm not as excited about it as I once used to be. I'm still excited to see an adaptation of the character in general and to see the DC Film Universe expand but I've never seen anything that's proved to me that Barry Allen is the best choice to have star in his own film.

I realize that I'm probably pretty biased because Wally is the The Flash that I've grown up with but I still yet need to really see proof that Barry will be able to carry this movie.

 

[solidsnake86]

With this news coming out now I can definately see this movie being ready for 2013, it will probably take them another year or two to write the script depending on how much they're using from muzeau.

 

[flash13]

Yeah without Wally it's just another superhero movie for me

 

[Evil Twin]

I'm sure that there was tons of people who got p*ssed off when Barry died back in '85, thus passing the torch to Wally. Then those fans get old, while the Wally fans flourished. Then it's back to Barry again.

Probably not as many as you think. For one, going out saving the universe is hard to top as far as heroism goes. For another, Wally West had a pretty good spotlight in the years previously in New Teen Titans which was perhaps DC's best selling title. Not to mention, the idea of the sidekick stepping up into the mentor's boots was a fresh idea. And Wally had around 25 years of history behind him at that point so it wasn't like it wasn't the next logical step in his evolution.

And Trial of the Flash certainly wasn't much loved at the time. Which perhaps made the transition easier.