The Official Green Lantern Review Thread

[kedrell]

Basically the only way you can make what he gets away with in the movie make any sense is the old 'the movie said so' trick. in other words...plot convenience.

 

[Visceral]

a horses ass its not real, everyone knows gotham is a real place so get back in line

 

[Maze]

El Mayimbe from Latino Review just saw it today:

http://***********/#!/elmayimbe

Yup, he just saw it today with some other critics, Katey rich from cinemablend among others. That's maybe why we didn't hear reaction from online critics?

 

[moviedoors]

You ground it with Batsonar, Batmobiles flying from rooftops, and microwave emitters.

Yeah, it's outlandish and unlikely, but not impossible. You combine that with resonant emotional truth, and you get verisimilitude/hyper-realism.

 

[Motown Marvel]

Allowing us to see what critics thought of the movie before it opens is pandering?

The Studio sure pandered to expectations when they released Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, ditto for Superman Returns.

I wonder why they aren't pandering now when all three of those films got positive reviews?

you guys arent getting your reviews on the time schedule that you want them and are getting all fussy and worried because of it.

 

[kedrell]

You ground it with Batsonar, Batmobiles flying from rooftops, and microwave emitters.

Pseudo science is a staple of superhero movies. You kinda know that going in. As long as you bull**** your explaination for why it works well enough, it will work. 99.99% of the audience aren't engineers or scientists anyway.

However, what the Joker gets away with in TDK isn't pseudo science at all. It's regular crime stuff(shootings, stabbings, kidnappings, bombs blowing up, etc.) and you really can't pull the same bull**** there. It just won't work. Regular joes in the audience KNOW how all that kind of stuff works.

 

[Maze]

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[J.Howlett]

SPIDEY,

The film will be fine. What does it matter what the critics say anyway? Your opinion is the only one that counts.

 

[moviedoors]

you guys arent getting your reviews on the time schedule that you want them and are getting all fussy and worried because of it.

I really just don't see why it's so unreasonable to be a little concerned. I'm not demanding that I should have the right to reviews a month in advance, just that this time frame throws a potentially negative pall on the proceedings. Seems rational enough to me.

 

[Willi Berg]

Who is he?

I don't know, just someone who went to the New Zealand premiere.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Pseudo science is a staple of superhero movies.

Which is precisely why I don't consider Nolan's Batman movies to be realistic in any way, despite what Nolan himself has tried to claim on the matter. They're over the top superhero movies. What else is new in the genre?

 

[J.Howlett]

I wouldn't call them over the top. There are some over the top elements. Over the top is the creation of the new element in Iron Man 2, while trying to play it off as realistic.

 

[moviedoors]

Methinks some of you need to take a closer look at the definition of "hyper-realism."

 

[kedrell]

Which is precisely why I don't consider Nolan's Batman movies to be realistic in any way, despite what Nolan himself has tried to claim on the matter. They're over the top superhero movies. What else is new in the genre?

It's prescisely THIS that is the reason something like TDK goes(for me) from being a movie I don't like and think is bad to being one I really hate. The plot conveniences alone would be enough to torpedo the movie for me but being smug about it and insisting it works(when it clearly doesn't)just takes it to a whole new level of aweful as far as I am concerned.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

What are you talking about? If you've actually bothered reading my posts, I've been pretty critical of many elements in Nolan's Batman flicks.

I was addressing anyone who had problems with people labling it realistic. I wasn't responding to your post, I'm just a slow typer so it came after yours.

The Dark Knight backlash continues.

Back to Green Lantern...

Giving a movie a 9 out of 10 and saying that it's one of the best of it's genre and looking forward to the next film is engaging in a blacklash?

I was perfectly happy with TDK and I'm excited about the sequel but I'm not going to not state my opinion of it's faults just to make the people who felt that it was better than perfect happy.

But you weren't understand that feeling because any criticism of the movie is seen as bashing it when one is a hardcore Nolan fan.

Back to GL...

 

[kedrell]

I wouldn't call them over the top. There are some over the top elements. Over the top is the creation of the new element in Iron Man 2, while trying to play it off as realistic.

I'd say they're the same. They're both pseudo-science bunk. And I have no problem with either.

 

[redfirebird2008]

It's prescisely THIS that is the reason something like TDK goes(for me) from being a movie I don't like and think is bad to being one I really hate. The plot conveniences alone would be enough to torpedo the movie for me but being smug about it and insisting it works(when it clearly doesn't)just takes it to a whole new level of aweful as far as I am concerned.

I don't know if he's ever insisted that it works. I enjoy it for what it is, just like I enjoy other over the top superhero movies for what they are.

 

[J.Howlett]

SPIDEY,

I was speaking to the sentiment that's been going on online for at least two years since that film got released. The tide has slowly, but surely turned against the film mainly because it got REAL popular...

And as hardcore as I am about Nolan's films, I'm not blind to the "flaws" of them. But, considering the state of the genre between the two companies, his flaws are a lot smaller than the other films.

 

[Motown Marvel]

pseudo-science in movies is fine. but the universe the movie takes place in needs to justify the pseudo-science. and more often than not, TDK failed at that.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

SPIDEY,

I was speaking to the sentiment that's been going on online for at least two years since that film got released. The tide has slowly, but surely turned against the film mainly because it got REAL popular...

And as hardcore as I am about Nolan's films, I'm not blind to the "flaws" of them. But, considering the state of the genre between the two companies, his flaws are a lot smaller than the other films.

I would take his films over something like Thor so there is truth to that.

SPIDEY,

The film will be fine. What does it matter what the critics say anyway? Your opinion is the only one that counts.

Thats true and I disagree with critics often but I still use them to guide me quite a bit. I don't see the harm in me being able to see whats in the movie through the reviews.

 

[J.Howlett]

And I liked Thor a lot...even if it's not a particularly good film.

I don't see Green Lantern having the same problems as Thor, even if I did enjoy the hell out of it.

 

[kedrell]

I'd take Batman Begins over Thor. TDK? No.

 

[redfirebird2008]

pseudo-science in movies is fine. but the universe the movie takes place in needs to justify the pseudo-science. and more often than not, TDK failed at that.

If the bar was set with microwave emitters and Batmobiles flying from rooftops in BB, then I can't agree with that assessment of TDK. The universe was already pretty over the top after BB. Now if you want to say both of them failed, then I can agree with that.

 

[kedrell]

I don't have a single issue with the pseudo science in Nolan's films. They worked well enough for me. My issue was other things.

 

[redfirebird2008]

I don't have a single issue with the pseudo science in Nolan's films. They worked well enough for me. My issue was other things.

I have a problem with the pseudo science as well as other things.